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10 Years Ago
Is it just me or does fine art america seem to have more photographs than paintings these days? Most of the contest are for photos too...just making an observation.
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You got me thinkin here.............. A photographer can go out and take a hundred photos & post them while a painter is preparing a canvas & getting ready to paint. No offense to the picture takers amongst us, but it does take longer to complete a painting. As for me, I am still painting.
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I for one, love great photography, like the one's I took of all my paintings. Just go look,you'll see!
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Im here too and keep entering contests, I also vote for other painters and like contests that are painters only.
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"Is it just me or does fine art america seem to have more photographs than paintings these days? Most of the contest are for photos too...just making an observation. "
Yes!
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P. S. I love photography also but since we have so many contests I think it works best when they are photo only or paintings only .
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A couple of months ago, I started a "Choose A Favorite Painting of the Artist Above" for painters only. It never had more than a handful of painters contributing and suffered from so many repeat pieces that it died a premature death (in my opinion). So, I too wonder where all the painters are?
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Here I am :) I do both. But yes, there are a significant amount of photographers vs. other medium artists.
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I think volume of output makes the difference....more photos vs fewer paintings.
Maybe the stats can tell us the numbers?
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What Happened To All The Painters? Is this specific to traditional media or are you referring to digital painters as well?
You got me thinkin here.............. A photographer can go out and take a hundred photos & post them while a painter is preparing a canvas & getting ready to paint. No offense to the picture takers amongst us, but it does take longer to complete a painting. As for me, I am still painting.
And four year olds can splash paint on a canvas and complete a few of those in a day. What's your point?
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A couple of months ago, I started a "Choose A Favorite Painting of the Artist Above" for painters only. It never had more than a handful of painters contributing and suffered from so many repeat pieces that it died a premature death (in my opinion). So, I too wonder where all the painters are?
If it was limited to just traditional media that might be why. Some have switched to digital and some do both.
Wingsdomain Art and Photography
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Do we allow four-year-olds on here? Lol......Surely the OP means trad painters....the volume from us would definitely be lower than Photogs. Don't know how long digital "paintings" take to do...am told they are just as time-consuming as trad work....as can be for producing photographs, too, nowadays, what with post processing, and finding subjects out there.
Still do think there's more Photography here..
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Interesting observation to note. On the front page of FAA:
1 photo manipulation piece
1 digital mixed media piece
2 digital paintings
4 photographs
9 traditional paintings.
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I don't think Home Page reflects the stats, and only 12 featured artworks.....don't know which disciplines..
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You are right and I’m sure everyone sees it. This forum is dominated by photographs also.” I’m not complaining “
I will echo I am here. I don’t like the contests with all medium it is to broad for me even though it is all Art.
I don’t like the idea of the general public being confused and not even really knowing the difference between digital painting and traditional. One not better than the other just keeping facts straight.
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Yes, Charles....digital uploads, but not all digital photography subjects,yes, we digitally photograph our paintings and sell prints here, but, you know that, Sir
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It seems to me, why there are more photographers on this forum than painters, is simply that they have more to talk to each other about.
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I am painting too, and thank you for the compliment Mr. Gene Gregory. No offense to photographers, I like to take photos as well. I have to agree with Vivian, still think there's more photography here now. I like all the art that was posted from this discussion though :)
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I'm a painter looking to connect with other painters too! Thanks for posing the question :)
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Ms.Anderson;
A play on words, in that,Digit may refer to: Digit (anatomy), one of several most distal parts of a limb—fingers, thumbs, and toes on hands and feet..
Most painters paint with their hands which include ten on average distal parts or fingers.
One can therefore say that the first , prehistoric, mark making images were "Digital", in their execution, while Analogue in their concept as Analogue study refers to an investigation that attempts to replicate or simulate, under controlled conditions, a situation that occurs in real life-art.
Wingsdomain Art and Photography
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Oil on Canvas, as traditional as it gets, from a previous life. -W
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"A photographer can go out and take a hundred photos & post them while a painter is preparing a canvas & getting ready to paint. No offense to the picture takers amongst us, but it does take longer to complete a painting. As for me, I am still painting."
100 photos of your back yard do not a portfolio make. Sometimes I luck out but for the most part it takes hours of driving, sitting, doing it again and again until the light is right and HOPING you get two or three usable images.....
I have nothing but respect for painters but taking images is NOT as easy and quick as non-photographers think it is.
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J.C., you hit the nail on the head. Sometimes on my way to a spot where I think I might get a good image, I'll pass by a painter working outside. Three hours later, on my way back, I see they've completed two works. Meanwhile, I still have to look at the images and hope that 1% of them are worth showing. That one out of a hundred will get anywhere from two hours to 10 hours more attention before it's published.
It's a mistake to judge creative output by the time it takes to create, anyway. Art is not a collection of widgets that increases in value in proportion to the labor expended -- not that Mr. Gregory was implying that. I do know of many painters who produce 50 to 100 works per year. I have 190 photos in my collection, made over a period of 10 years, for a grand average of 19 works per year.
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Ironically, Ansel Adams took over 3000 photographs of a tree in his backyard. I'm currently in the third month of a painting right now. The thing is where do you put all the paintings. I have a server with 4700 digital images which I show on a large flat screen HD TV :a days long slide show. Paintings I have only six of about two hundred showing on my walls , most are in storage.Painting takes up lots of space.
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I have not kept stats, but it seems to me when I look at the recently sold pages the number of paintings sold has decreased. Especially abstract paintings. There used to be several abstract paintings sold each time I would look, now often there might be only 1.
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Anne, that all tells you about the demographics for FAA..........my abstracts sell mostly to other artists....guess that's my niche....
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As both a painter and photographer, I'm neutral on the artistic merits of either. There are astoundingly good and astoundingly bad examples of each. That said, from a COMMERCIAL standpoint, painting is really not a viable activity (with extremely rare exceptions) and this is a essentially a commercial site.
On balance, paintings take far longer to produce than photographs even if you figure the tweaking time on the computer (Yes, I know how much time can be chewed up in Photoshop).
In addition, it's much easier to ruin a canvas when you're fixing a mistake than when you're working on a photograph.
Offering hundreds or thousands of options regarding subject matter will appeal to a much broader client base than just offering one or two.
I'm voicing no opinion on the ARTISTIC merit of either medium, but from a practical and commercial standpoint these factors probably explain why you see 10,000+ photographs on Wings site and 0 paintings, despite the fact that he can also produce paintings.
PS: Pretty sure a 4-year old couldn't pop these off before nap time.
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I think Norm hit the nail on the head; this is primarily a commercial site. I think the idea originally was to feature high art/fine art, but in recent years it has morphed into primarily a commercial stock photography warehouse.
Dan Turner
Dan Turner's Seven Keys to Selling Art Online
Leah Saulnier The Painting Maniac
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I think we're usually busy painting lol
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Here's something to think about. The next three generations of children entering school will be exposed to more digital artistic expression than traditional media. You can't give a kid in school paste today let alone oil paints. When was the last time your kids came home with a painting done in oil?
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If I said what I really think I would get kicked off the forum. But several of my very favorite PAINTERS have weighed in (above) and said it it nicer and better. I just erased the rest of my comment as exceedingly uncivil.
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Thats good RJ.
In Activity, I comment as often as possible to encourage painters, not to discourage other artforms, but ... I agree, the site is wonderfully supportive of photogs and digital artists moreso, imo, so I do what I can for we painters. Wonder what the stats are, vis a vis original painters on supports vs digital painters using electronic supports vs photographers..........
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I agree Vivian. We should support other artist as much as we are able to.(Since according to some, we are a dying breed!)
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Digital paintings - not at home with traditional paintings, not at home with photographs. I often feel left out of everything ;)
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I work in oil pastels and starting with digital painting does that count?
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/portrait-of-an-elephant-jeanne-fischer.html
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/lakeland-2-jeanne-fischer.html
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I don't see how this site is supportive of any one medium over another. They are not responsible if there are more of one type of artist than another.
Leah Saulnier The Painting Maniac
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here is one of my new paintings, I was going to show some works in progress but I am too lazy to put them up on FAA right now lol
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It's the same way in brick and mortar galleries and has been for a long time. There are a hundred photographers for every painter. Galleries have to filter more often if they exhibit photography.. Nothing against photography but despite the reality and difficulty of creating a good photograph it just is still taken as just, "click" by many. It's also simply much faster. The average painter paints about 1000 paintings in a lifetime, the average photographer? I'd not venture a guess. Painting is just a much slower process. We know photography isn't easy but in many minds it is. This site is not juried. Everyone wishing to call themselves an artist, photographer or painter can exhibit and everyone with a cell phone is a photographer today.
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Traditional...
or new media/digital painting ...
all pure enjoyment :)
~ Carmen Hathaway
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Good thoughts, David........and glad you're here too............nice to meet you.......lovely art................
This site just posts what gets uploaded, unjuried, without concern for the Discipline.....though I tend to agree, there are by nature of the medium, more photographers over other disciplines...............the Image counts are much much larger for photography than trad.paintings,of course, hence the imbalance. I'm sure that's what Brandi was addressing in her post..........
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Exactly, Joy..........those are gorgeous watercolours, compliments..........I'm meeting so many new talented painters here, thanks Brandi.
Viet........your collages are fabulous, painterly,amazing constructs of your unique Discipline.........compliments........V
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Hahahhaha.........RJ............I take cat naps between faa sessions, lol,lol........meoooww.
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"last time kid came home with an oil"?
Last year when my son brought home his eight grade "painting on canvas" creation. Painting on canvas is the most popular art class in the middle school. It is a year long class and they learned all about color mixing, perspective, composition - all great basic art theory although in high school I'd like to see kids learn to use computers so they will be employable.
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I have noticed this for a long time now, also I don't think it is right to have art and photos in the same contest. I just don't see how a judge could compare them.
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Which is one of the reasons I bought a second FAA account - to separate my photo's { http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/royd-erickson.html } from my digital art [ http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/1-roy-erickson.html ]. I left painting my watercolors years ago - no local market and they were piling up under my bed - still have three or four that I can't seem to unload there.
But - I would just imagine there are X number more photographers than painters or digital artists.
As for what is accepted in a contest - up to the administrator - you want "painting" contest - host one - it's not hard.
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Some painters just gave up. I know I did. Not because you couldn't paint with the best, but because it took too long and was too messy and all that. Besides, why all the mess when a graphics print sells for the same price?
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Unlike originals where a painter perhaps can sell at a higher price point, prints here basically are all sold in the same range despite the length of time needed to create the piece. Its just the way it is.
One might also ask where all the darkrooms went? I for one don't miss the chemicals, expense or lack of proper equipment of working in the darkroom.
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I do not know about you other painters but painting is not an option for me... Painting is food! If I only had a computer (that could crash and burn) to work with all day, I would go bonkers. I love the feel of moving the paint around on the canvas. The satisfaction of mixing the exact color to perfection and the final outcome, when you paint that last little stroke and step back knowing that your hands created this work. That my friends is art in my world...(((Not saying that their are not other forms,))) just in my sphere.
@ Sheena, you should paint more, you surely are greatly talented and I love that painting.
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@Bill....mess and price don't matter....it is a 'calling'.....you would/should understand that !
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I do photographs - but I LOVE seeing all the paintings. And while there are obviously WAY more photographs than paintings on this site, I do think the sales tend to be in the opposite direction. That does not bother me at all. Though I don't look at recent sales all that often, when I do, I see what seems to me to be about a 2:1 or even 3:1 ratio of paintings to photos. Now some of these may be digital paintings (as opposed to digitally enhanced photographs) and I don't stop to open and read the particulars on them, but the overall look of the recent sales images usually looks quite "painterly" to me.
-Nikolyn
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Phyllis - I do not know about you other painters but painting is not an option for me... Painting is food! If I only had a computer (that could crash and burn) to work with all day, I would go bonkers. I love the feel of moving the paint around on the canvas. The satisfaction of mixing the exact color to perfection and the final outcome, when you paint that last little stroke and step back knowing that your hands created this work. That my friends is art in my world...Not saying that their are not other forms, just in my sphere.
Well I could mix paint, but since it would probably kill me due to allergies, I'll pass.
And you can mix colors to perfection in many 2D programs.
Our hands do create our work. What? You think we use our eyebrows?
Well, thankfully we don't all live in your world and we have a wider scope on what art is.
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Well I paint as well, both in oils and digitally. The digital painting is for commercial work which can be easily changed when required whereas the oil is for fun and has no commercial value for me. Interestingly a digital A4 sized painting takes 2-3 days to paint whereas an oil painting to the same size takes a day or less to do.
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I am a photographer who paints her photos....I am new here so don't or have not yet found many who actually paint photos using photo shop and a graphic tablet along with various smudge and mixer brushes. Not sure how to add a photo, so adding a link to one of my paintings.
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/on-call-linda-muir.html
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@ Brandi - Hi :)
I'm a painter and am still here but have not been painting much lately. I also shoot photography... And, I agree that there are many many more photographers on FAA than traditional painters.
I've been on FAA exactly 7 years this month... I just celebrated my anniversary.. not. ;) I began on Feb 11, 2007... there were no photographers when I joined. It was originally meant to be or was seen as, a traditional fine art site. I think photographers began to join when FAA became a POD site...
Brandi - you have lovely work! :)
--Donna Proctor
Edit - @ Roseann - I didn't take it as a "dumping" ground either. But seems that Brandi has no issue with it ;)
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I'm still here! I, like others in this thread, do both but I paint more then I photogragh, and often my best photos end up being used for reference for my paintings down the line anyway lol.
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It seems there are alot of us here. The problem is there are not enough buyers during these trying times.
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I've noticed that FAA shows only photos of San Francisco on a site about the city and not paintings. To me that's disturbing because I have painted so many pictures of the city but not one of them are shown on that site.
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Brandi, 1300+ views...in one+ day........this is such a popular thread....showing how wide the scope of interest in "the painters" really is, thank you.
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http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/rosemary-colyer.html
We´re here - still busy!
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@Raffi........here's the faa search for Paintings - San Francisco..........gorgeous pix...........thanks for raising the subject.........but my link is broken............sorry.
http://fineartamerica.com/art/paintings/san+francisco/all
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Beautiful Paintings on this thread, so glad I posed the question...Found many wonderful painters too!!! Some very interesting views and some that have nothing to do with the original question, lol. Oh well...
@Donna...thank you for the compliment, your work is fabulous!!! You know some people live to make others miserable, I just choose to ignore it :)
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I believe that JC has said that there are at least twice as many photographers. However, painters still sell half the time.
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It is so much easier to (mostly) print for pod the digital work here - it's usually printable without issues, except for noise,etc, which can all be fixed in house, to get the image printed....due to the flexibility of digital images' properties.
Whereas, painters who aren't good photographers, often get knocked back at sale time for various reasons...their images can't be 'fixed' so easily , in house , to save a sale, because of the nature of the painting surface,reflections of the paint itself,colourmatching,sizes ... etc........but, in my experience, faa has always been tremendously helpful in the crises.......just saying.
Oh, and, just to clarify........I, and others 'still here' , do not think of this as that terrible suggestion that it is a dumping ground.....most unhelpful,unsupportive thing to say to those who have answered Brandi's post in support. ."too bad " ..for those who don't want to support, for whatever personal reasons................... just saying.
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I think one of the most difficult challenges for a realistic landscape painter, has to do with ..... getting the depth of field, whereby, with a camera you can choose it or not by a camera setting.
Being both photographer and painter, each has it challenges. The greatest challenge was the switching from conventional ( film) photography to digital. Yet when it comes to shooting the paintings for uploading to FAA, the digital has made it so much easier in many ways.
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Congratulations, Shasta........those are but two of all your wonderful artworks, and so truly express your understanding of the different media, outcomes, the 'paint'.........your work is gorgeous.........good luck selling lots of Originals.........Vivian
May your dreams come true, my friend...........
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@ Vivian
I've had to change direction, from the prints on demand to the releasing of the original paintings. With over two hundred, storage is a problem, and which in part is why I haven't painted for the past six months. It's been this past two weeks that I'm removing all reference for printed products of the paintings, which make up the collection ... " Serenity Scenes."
Going through each one and removing reference in the description, has been the most tedious.
LOL I'm beginning to look forward to painting again, .... but first, I've had to stop being a " collector of my own works."
And so, ... they're up for adoption -- and new homes.
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I do both but it takes me a lot longer to paint an oil painting than to produce a photograph. There are a lot more photographs and they do tend to stand out in contests. We could do with more painting contests though.
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Thanks Mr. Gene , that's very sweet of you to say :)
And to dearest Vivian, thank you for the celebration! If I could just figure out how to post paintings on these messages!!! Lol... I would reply with some images.
Some very talented artists on this thread :)
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I hear a lot about how much longer it takes to paint, and while it is true, there is something interesting within that. Some painters take a week and some even longer to complete a painting. This may of course have to do with how much time they can spend with it before having to stop to tend to other matters.Or, because they are stuck at a place with the painting.Not knowing when and at what point a painting is finished can be a problem. Not having a thorough understanding of color means you have to experiment and dabble until you are satisfied with what you applied to the canvas.
When particular disciplines are employed whereby you have the confidence, it makes all this a whole lot easier, and faster. The more doubt and guess work removed, the easier it flows freely. Now, being able to complete five 12" x 16 " paintings in 3 days is not just possible, it's my norm. I switched from oils to acrylic and can get effects I couldn't with oils. By working different stages of several paintings, I don't easily become bogged down or doubtful with what to do next or what colors to use. Each provides a break, a visual break so that when I do come back, I see it much clearer, quicker and can proceed without doubt.
Finding "your style" takes time, but I find little difference in the above and back when doing film photography and the darkroom work of masking, dodging and burning in exposure timing techniques (guess work) for enhancing a photo print. With digital enhancement, it's pretty much the same, just different tools by which it's accomplished.
It may not be so much a matter of " How much photography " and " How much painting " as it is the percentages of how much is good photography and good art. We are just able to view a greater amount of it than ever before because of the Internet ... in the convenience of our home. As our visual world has rapidly broadened,...and quickened, it's not easy for our old preferences to broaden and grow with it. But as it has increased and so very rapidly, people dislike reading more and more. It is a much slower rate of brain gratification. The visual is instant.greatly due to television. The rapidly visual bleeping of visual images leaves little time for analysis. We are greatly impacted, conditioned and changed by all of this, and haven't always taken time to "think" through it, to understand......that.
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@ Gene Gregory – I agree with what you said about Brandi being the sweetest young lady! She's an original "Georgia peach!"
@ Brandi – Thank you for your comment. Not only was it kind, but I appreciate you taking time to go take a peek, since I didn't post anything here. You really are a sweetheart in more ways than one :)
@ Sheena – Seriously... if you never paint another canvas it won't matter. The medium you use to produce the art that you do, is certainly "good enough!" I mean that in a completely positive and supportive way... when someone can master their medium as well as you do, they don't "need" to use anything else... Your technical ability and body of work is simply stunning. That said, I also like your painting and think it's very well done.
Oh, and, just to clarify........I, and others 'still here' , do not think of this as that terrible suggestion that it is a dumping ground.....most unhelpful,unsupportive thing to say to those who have answered Brandi's post in support. ."too bad " ..for those who don't want to support, for whatever personal reasons................... just saying.
@ Vivian - Clearly I'm part of that "opinion..." For the record – the TS asked a question in her OP. You were the first person to jump right in and dump your images without even asking her if it was OK – correct? Candidly speaking – my first thought was that you turned her thread into a dumping ground with your art. And, it was not a "terrible suggestion" it was an observation and comment made to someone else – in response to what that person said. And – I noted to that same person - Brandi didn't seem to have an issue with it. That doesn't negate the fact that you did it, first. And, I did agree with the other person's observation about "back on topic." As for the rest of your cryptic gibberish...par for the course.
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Cheers Donna, too bad you were offended. Of course, that's par for the course from you. ( both)....fortunately, what you don't know is our
OP sanctioned my post. Charming description of my thoughts expressed here...you know the drill....if you don't like the heat, stay out of the kitchen.,
Because posts like yours always spoil good threads around here, and this thread hopefully will survive your rant.
"Cryptic Jibberish" ?
And, out of loyalty, if you'd looked, I posted others'
Paintings mostly....fyi
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http://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=1551451
Thank you Brandi
The link is How To Post Images to Forum
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Hi Kevin, that's a great painting, and yes, those friends stand the test of time, although, me, too, it would be a luxury to renew old tubes...........and keep old friendships - thank you.........
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In case you haven't seen this link, there are a lot of categories in FAA...
Tons of paintings here: http://fineartamerica.com/art/paintings/all/all
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David, thank you for posting...your portfolio is magnificent! Your bio, most impressive!!
Thank you!!!!
An inspiration to us all!
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Thanks Shasta....wonderful paintings, so glad you're shared them here....nice to meet new painters, I shall visit,vote,fav..........Marlene always maintains she got the most done ever in her recent break from forum......perhaps a message in your choices....
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Those of us in the forum regularly, have a skewed sense of how many faa artists participate in this social area.
Sean has told us many times, less than 1%.....so you can figure that the VAST majority are too busy to stop in.
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Welcome Susan, well done copy/pasting, and compliments......your paintings are beautiful.
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thank you Vivian, It was easier than I thought (the inserting images)! You have wonderful paintings, I just went for a visit :)
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I am a traditional painter. I have also noticed the contests are geared more toward photography. I would rather they post in the title of the contest that they are for photographers only instead of clicking on the contest and having to read thru to see if they accept paintings. Some DO put that in their titles. When I sponsor a contest, I usually make it for traditional painters (no digital, no photographers). When voting in others' contests, I will pick a painting over a photograph (because that is what I am partial to).
Don't misunderstand...I do like seeing photographs and there are some amazing photographers on FAA. But it seems that painting is beginning to be the minority medium.
Here's a couple of my paintings:
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I think if someone is interested in purchasing a painting they will put that in the search engine and over 10 pages will show up. Just sayin'.
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I paint on just about anything these days!
More public art, (buses and sheds) on Pinterest:
http://www.pinterest.com/gesson582/public-art-by-genevieve-esson/
My blogspot shows my painted larger than life butterfly statue for Wings In The City & my dog statue I painted for the Animal Protective Association:
http://genevieveessonart.blogspot.com/
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And, sad to say, ?what happened to all the paintings lost in the Big Skip? ...... they are so beautiful......so many contributed but aren't seen unless you have a look, well worth the visit........just saying.
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If only the big skip button would be at the top..one could easily use it and not miss a thng!
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Exactly.....one has to navigate back to where it starts....has to be an easy fix by a willing programmer....
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Going back to the original question...For a painter, faa cannot be the main place to advertise to sell one's work. Prints of a painting are just that.
For a photographer, faa can most definitely be the primary source, though I wouldn't suggest all eggs in one basket.
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Agree,Marlene.....but I assume that painters here are aware of that and happily sell prints of their work....FAA is POD ...and I think Brandi noticed a difference here in numbers of photographers to painters....so, we are sharing here the works for sale as POD, nes pas?
Just look at the thread...Post your Sales here........more photos than painters there today, for example.
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My comment begins with "going back to the original question"My answer is a response.
Yes, of course painters can sell prints...but for the same effort it takes to move a $20 profit print, I'm gonna spend that effort moving originals...ergo, one of the reasons that it appears that faa has more photographs showing....
The thread has morphed into another dump thread of paintngs, albeit, stunning work.
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But it didn't stop you " dumping" here, did it?where have I heard that word before? Oh, yes, in the skip.
Why is there contention in forum? someone asked. Why not accept that the OP condoned posting paintings? This has been a real celebration, IMHO.....now my BP is up.
Edit....how many originals do you still have for sale at your current exhibition? Wish you well.
Posted before the Skip
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Honestly, Vivian, please choose someone else to argue with this lovely morning.
I was responding to the original OP and trying to explain from a painter's point of view, why she sees more photographs.
BTW, I posted a PHOTOGRAPH...showing that painters often take photographs as well.....so the painters just use a camera sometimes.
As an aside, many of the dump threads are my favorites..I'd rather see fine artwork than some of the discussions here any day!
I certainly hope that clarifies any problems you have with my posts.
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Thank you Marlene, doubt even I could spoil anyone's day, so don't lay that on me.i wasn't arguing, so, don't dump that trip on me, either.
/passive-aggressive !
Glad to see your work here...have a nice day painting.
Edit..question..."Where are all the painters"......answer.......here we are.
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BTW, I do post some photographs for Instagram. You just have to keep posting your paintings on this thread because everyone has different schedules and not everyone sees your posts or agrees or has time to read every single post. I spend a lot of time on Fine Art America trying to get sales with my paintings. I just finished a commission from someone in Jersey who saw my artwork on FAA. I have many different styles. I am always learning and growing. Check out my public art projects above if you missed them in the Big Skip. Thanks! =)
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Mr. Fielding: Hello. 8th grade would make the student 12-13 years old, which is old in learning color mixing, perspective and composition - all disciplines I might add, which can easily be taught and learned in digital mediums.The problem with painting at elementary school levels is liability( you can't give a 6 year old turpentine). The fact that many digital art classes are gravitating to tablets with brushes( all digital ) will give younger artists more art experience than having to wait until middle or high school grades for instruction.Starting younger artist off digitally will also make them better traditional painters simple by experiencing more art. I think drafting should be included in fine art classes. I think drafting is one of the finest arts.
What I don't that much of on FAA, aside from sculpture is the Air Brush Artist. What do painters think of Air Brush Artist?
10 Years Ago
Still here http://fineartamerica.com/featured/dew-on-the-clematis-sharon-duguay.html
10 Years Ago
Charles, I would never recommend oil painting for elementary...but acrylic and temperas and watercolors are magnificent and should be an important part of any primary level course of art programming
10 Years Ago
As an aside, many of the dump threads are my favorites..I'd rather see fine artwork than some of the discussions here any day!
G'morning Marlene! I completely agree which is why I stay out of so many of them... lol ;)
10 Years Ago
What is it which sets apart, all of the individual FAA artists' web site galleries, FAA Groups, Forum - Show your Latest work, threads, etc., .... from a " dump site ?
10 Years Ago
Charles, I would never recommend oil painting for elementary...but acrylic and temperas and watercolors are magnificent and should be an important part of any primary level course of art programming.
Marlene beat me to this one.
The organic feel of paint put down by hand on canvas by that type of straight hand to canvas art is what I like. There may be some imperfections also.
This thread to me is about celebrating painters and not about debating electronics verses painting.
The one thing that bothers me is seeing art on sites that don’t draw the distinctions between traditional and digital and just call a digital work painting. I do not want to debate one better than the other.
There is a lot of nice work that has been posted here with painters coming out of the woodwork (or canvas)
Celebrate painting!
10 Years Ago
Charles, my grandson is only 3 and is already learning in preschool how to mix green, orange and purple.
10 Years Ago
I used to love finger painting with non-toxic paint....exposure to colour and even theory came very early in life. Still does.
10 Years Ago
Thanks everybody for posting and one of mine too, Genevieve.....Cheers....this is a visual delight, and very reassuring, in the most positive way.....I'm going to make this a "watched" thread so I can revisit often.
10 Years Ago
I always appreciate the traditional style of painting although there is a truly remarkable amount of talented digital artists out there. My favorite form of art will probably always be the traditional paint of canvas.
10 Years Ago
There is a great deal of beautiful, exquisite art tucked away in the individual galleries here in FAA. So much of it never gets seen in a forum thread, any forum thread, because many of the artists never visit the forum.
While there is much offered here to assist photographers with gear, techniques, and all, there's not much which can or has been offered to assist the painters.
Many tutorials for painting are available and found on the internet. The many "look alike" Bob Ross paintings posted to art sites, is an example.
There is teaching artist on FaceBook who does incredible floral work: If you could reach out an actually touch one of those petals, you would near believe it IS a petal. If there were a flood of painting tutorials, here, most likely it too would and could be cause for .... argument. Basically,..... it all comes down to whatever people choose to make of it.
10 Years Ago
Thanks Shasta, good observation..'tis the nature of forum in an art community to naturally discuss art disciplines, and why any thread should be considered a 'dump' is so beyond me, that it is well to ignore that term used in the very place where images are expected to be shared,encouraged,complimented.....not defamed as being.... dumped. Glad we seem to have moved on from that issue/idiom.(sp,lol
@Martin, those are an amazing array of fine paintings, from many an artist I hadn't seen ever here, and thanks for sharing them.
10 Years Ago
Painter here! I may sketch and photograph from time to time too, but painting is my main form with drawing as supplement when in the car allot. Photos for me are about capturing something I am seeing now and will lose if not captured so I can refer to it later... Or for those times I have used a temporary canvas. I generally paint and sketch with my feet as carpal tunnel has gotten worse. I do hand sketches mostly to maintain what dexterity I do have. Out of curiosity how are you able to post pieces for sale to this forum? I am on an iPhone and don't see a photo link when posting.
10 Years Ago
Hello Yve, and thanks for showing up here and the following link will explain how to upload your pix.
I'm so sorry about your carpal tunnel issues.....it is really handicapping..........of course, you'd know there is an operation to relieve the syndrome.....but it puts you out of business for a while.......and had one done after the other........worth it, but I had lots of help.
Wishing you well, and please share your work here, of course.........it is neutral ground......friendly.
http://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=1551451
10 Years Ago
Most oil painters also do photography, but most photographers do not paint. < That's profound. Somebody ought to write it on the wall !
Anyway, it takes a good eye for either or both. If you can't imagine what will make a good picture, then you probably can't paint a good picture.
... and that's all I have to say about that.
10 Years Ago
@ Gene
" Anyway, it takes a good eye for either or both "
Exactly !
If a painter wants to find out just how much they do and do not know about color mixing and values .... start taking black and white photos of your paintings, especially landscape paintings. It the photo would make a good, well balance black and white scenic post card .... you've got it nailed.
10 Years Ago
Watch out for the revenge of the photographers!
I'm all three;
painter, sculptor and photographer.
And this reason I prefer to sculpt and paint over clicking the camera is the camera is way too much weary work. It's a lot more work to me than painting ever was to come up with something special and enduring.
10 Years Ago
Hi Brandi, I am an oil painter! I am with you, hard to find many painters anymore.
I can't seem to get any of my works to show up in the refined searches in FAA. Painting medium, specific categories, subjects, etc. They only show up in the general art search on the 35th page or something crazy. Anyone know what the key is to getting work to show up in the FAA search engine? A lot of artists seem to think it is based on Likes, but I think it must be something else because if you search up anything, what comes up on leading pages often has no votes or comments.
Any help on this subject would be appreciated, thanks!
Lori
10 Years Ago
I paint with oils and acrylics...no computers. When I create my landscapes and seascapes I strive for what I call "Dramatic Realism". Some would say the camera has replaced the "need" for my style of realism...but I make no apologies for trying to convey the reality of what moves me to create paintings that uplift and inspire the viewer. No minimalism here...I enjoy doing justice to the beauty and exquisite detail of the subject. No hasty interpretations...just a respect for the wonder of it all......
10 Years Ago
J Morgan...... the photo of the 2 kids looks like a photo of my twin grand kids. ......... I will try to find it.
10 Years Ago
I do both, but I am starting to paint much more than photograph.
I think everyone is a photographer these days, so the numbers will certainly be larger in that regard.
10 Years Ago
Thanks Mary Ellen...me,too.
Roseann, I agree, you might be right. What do you suggest to be done about it?
10 Years Ago
I am working at digital painting but I also love the oil pastels which have been doing for a while. My goal for painting to achieve a sense of realism with imagination, without loosing the painterly quality. In other words it looks real but you can see brush strokes and layering of color and areas where blocks of color come together are interesting.
Here's are few works a couple of digitals and a couple of oil pastels
10 Years Ago
I miss Charles. We use to have friendly political debates. lol
I'm glad he is doing well.
10 Years Ago
Good of you to share here, Enver.....much appreciated, and what elegant fine paintings....love the subtlety of your palette, as always.
Trust you are well, kind regards. Thank you for your support, in the fine tradition of FAA.....no doubt you were a founding member among the earliest fine artist here. Any chance of catching up here in Oz again?
Love "Hollywood".....deserves an Oscar!
10 Years Ago
Before giving anyone especially a child access to paints make sure they are safe.Illnesses caused by toxic substances have plagued artists throughout history. The artists Rubens, Renoir and Dufy suffered from rheumatoid arthritis, and Paul Klee was plagued by scleroderma, both of which are now known to be caused by toxic heavy metals used in the bright colours of their paints.(1) In the mid-1980s, the US National Cancer Institute also conducted two studies that found higher risks of urinary bladder cancer, leukemia, and arteriosclerotic heart disease among painters
Some of the inorganic pigments, in particular cadmium pigments, chrome yellow and zinc yellow may cause lung cancer. In addition lamp black and carbon black may contain impurities that can cause skin cancer.
Chromate pigments (chrome yellow and zinc yellow) may cause skin ulceration and allergic skin reactions (such as rashes).
The long-term hazards of the modern synthetic organic pigments have not been well studied.
Always check!
Check these colors out:http://web.princeton.edu/sites/ehs/artsafety/sec10.htm
There are formaldehyde risks in non-toxic paints and least we forget
oil thinners and then there is acetone.
Be responsible!
10 Years Ago
Actually Plein Air" is more a risk than a well , properly vented studio. Skin contact with toxins can be better and more quickly washed in a studio than out in the field. Regarding carcinogens and their exposure to children I' say completely eliminating the risk is the way to go.
10 Years Ago
Actually Plein Air" is more a risk than a well , properly vented studio. Skin contact with toxins can be better and more quickly washed in a studio than out in the field. Regarding carcinogens and their exposure to children I' say completely eliminating the risk is the way to go.
That is where organic painting using various foods is useful. If they get blueberry or strawberry or beet or spinach or Tumeric in their mouths it will not be toxic but rather a full-spectrum artistic experience!
10 Years Ago
I love Sharon's paintings, first time I have seen them. Going to the portfolio to have a closer look. Such a cute character!
10 Years Ago
Ms Moore; good afternoon.
" painting using various foods is useful.", but not when one considers a gluten sensitive child Using wheat paste or making a paper mache sculpture. Wheat flour is used as a thickening agent in paints as it is in sauces.
10 Years Ago
Beautiful paintings on this thread which is really great to see all in one place.
Here three more of mine they fit together and hang be hung a one painting. It's oil pastel but I used several techniques on them from thin watery washes to thick buildups of pastel that I scraped through to reveal color beneath.
10 Years Ago
There are gluten free flours which one may be able to use for thickening. I have not experimented with it yet as the ones I have done that way were experimental works, which used the juices of various berries, annatto seeds and chocolate syrup and whipped cream. I may experiment with using rice flour as thickener or any other gluten free flours, but my first food piece was done on newsprint with the liquids serving like watercolors.
Hope these ideas are helpful, as I know the environmental threats have become extreme for young ones, but they need options for developing and expressing creativity rather than just playing video games and watching TV, so I am always looking at ways to increase opportunities for safe and fun activities. Now one thing I do recognize is that an option available for one child to paint with may not be suitable for all so each parent may have to find which options are open to their child and which best match his or her needs.
10 Years Ago
Viv asked me to reconsider closing this thread.
Please keep chatting and not just sharing images only. Thank you.
10 Years Ago
Thank you very much, Abbie............the recent chats about paint itself,etc., have been very enlightening....so glad you understand.
Here's just one of so many comments posted by individuals. It shows the lovely acceptance (implied and real) about this thread.
"Beautiful paintings on this thread which is really great to see all in one place. "
10 Years Ago
Love this thread too, so beautiful to see all the amazing works.
I have a question, it was recently asked of me at a local function and it made me think, so I thought I'd pass it on.
Do you paint the picture because of the brushes you want to use or do you use the brushes to paint the picture you want to create... at first this sounds kind of silly but think about it. What do you do first when you stare at that blank canvas... do you pick the brushes first and then decide or the other way around. Free flowing or detailed??
I look forward to hearing the answers and I'll tell you my response to the question later.
Cheers,
Barbara
10 Years Ago
Hi Barbara......great question.....I imagine varied replies.
When facing that blank canvas, I'm usually already there with an idea, inspired usually by colours through my faulty vision.....and....so, the colour palette is set up..........and, yep..........I always reach for my trust flat edge 1" quite soft brush (can't read the maker now - it's so old,lol)...........(like me,lol)...........and away I go, with a lot of wrist - that's on the abstracts............I'm slightly more careful with a subject that I want to be careful about............
thanks for asking
10 Years Ago
Barbara, I just stared, sketched, stared again, scetched two more (on paper). Then I took my three scetches to my husband and asked which one was a better composition. He answered, "Which do you like?" No help there I am afraid!!! Finally, I decided on the most complicated of the three just to challenge myself. I really do not want to mess this one up because the canvas is 40x48 and we all know how costly that mistake would be!
Now, to answer your brush question, I always choose the brush that I want to get the job done and yes, always go for detail.
10 Years Ago
This thread is making me want to paint! I tried learning how to paint a few years ago, and went and bought one of those follow along books along with all of the colours he suggested. I did a few of those paintings but they weren't mine as I was copying someone else's work in a very specific and instructed way. This book was for landscapes and I wanted to paint animals, so I bought more books and all of the colours they recommended, then another couple....
Then I tried to paint a picture of our dog Fred and it ended up looking like a child painted it. The drawing was good, but it looked flat and the colours looked too... I don't know, tacky. Anyway I was discouraged and very unhappy with it and could not get it right. The trouble for me is that I can't mix colour. The irony there is that I have about 40 tubes of different colours of paint :-)
I met a talented equine artist who also did graphite, and talking to her about the problems I was having with paint, she suggested I draw. I hadn't done anything like that since elementary school, where I obsessively did bad copies of the works of C.W. Anderson. I decided I would try drawing and I did my first one. I had no idea while I was doing it if it would turn out how I wanted but when it was done I was very pleased with the result. Then I did three more, then started and didn't finish another three. Friends, family and acquaintances were very encouraging and loved my work, and I think a lot of them were disappointed that I stopped just as I got going. Here's why...
I decided I needed to get into photography so I could take better reference photos, since I was doing photorealism and if I was copying work it needed to be my own. So I got a camera, and me being me, I became obsessed with it...
That was two years ago and photography has taken over my life. I haven't drawn at all since I took it up. I used to write too, and haven't done much of either.
A couple of months ago I set my mind to learning how to paint. I have an idea for a piece, and being me, in typical me fashion, I decided that even though it will be my first real painting, it had to be 36 X 40 because I want something colourful over my couch. I have the canvas prepped and am working on the sketch. Reading this thread has inspired me and I'm going to take a break from the computer and work on this today :-)
What this thread has made me realize is that the reason I am a photographer the end result of cause and effect... All because I so badly wanted to paint. I went from wanting to paint, to drawing, then needing photos for drawing, and then into photography. I don't do photography because I can't draw (and I'm told I'll be able to paint if I can draw), or because it's easier. I do it because I have an absolute passion for it. It involves a lot of different types of effort. Standing in the pouring rain for hours freezing and hoping a bear will show up, standing at the top of a windy mountain with very frozen fingers and toes to get the shot, driving for miles and hour after hour chasing that shot.
In the end though, the reason I do the photography, (also the reason I loved drawing for the couple of months I did it, and the reason I write) is a burning need to try to capture or express and then share what is exquisite and beautiful, (or painful) in this world.
Maybe I'll have an art portfolio of more than four out dated graphite pieces some day and if I get that painting done, I'll be sure to let you know :-)
Lisa
Lisa
10 Years Ago
Cheers, Jim, ladies.
Lisa, congratulations on the future !! I just love your journey, and am sure all three disciplines will give you great joy....you are indeed multi-talented..gifted thrice...........keep going.
Wingsdomain Art and Photography
10 Years Ago
The year was 1986, the first computer virus "Brain" starts to spread, Voyager 2 makes encounter with Uranus, the United Kingdom and France announce plans to construct the Channel Tunnel, the National Resistance Army Rebel group takes over Uganda, and the Space Shuttle Challenger disintegrates in mid air 73 seconds after launch. I was fresh out of college, not a worry in the world...well except that pesky thing called a job! What do you do? Paint! -W
Wingsdomain Art and Photography
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Congrats, Wing.....I'm utterly amazed at your great attention to detail, and, I think they are really amusing, too, a quality sometimes lost........nice to see the beginnings to your brilliant career.......Cheers,V
10 Years Ago
Barbara, lately some of my paintings did not start with using any brushes. I mix large amount of paints and just pour on to the dampen surface ( either canvas or paper) after it dry, I would paint from what I discover. I always use about six brushes near me they are from large to very small ones.
here is an example:
10 Years Ago
The majority of the work I have brought and posted is of painters who never visit the forum. Some are original members of an FAA group I started and others are from a fairly long existing thread I hosted, for the purpose of promoting the work, by bringing to the forum that it might be seen and enjoyed.
These two connections allow me to reach back, locate their body of work and to again ..... post it to be enjoyed. If not here .... where ?
The majority of them simply love painting and never really took well to having to promote it, or get involved with " comment for comment." Yet, the quality of such work deserves being seen and recognition. And it's a pleasure to once again.... post such works.
10 Years Ago
T.B........yours is an amazing mixed media artwork, exquisite attention to detail. Am not sure if you are selling the photo of the piece you made, under glass ?, or the actual object de art..........
10 Years Ago
Just received my print from FAA/printers, of this wonderful elegant artwork.......am so impressed with the print quality,and shipping arrangements, though UPS made a hash of trying to find my apt.complex doorbell and the retirement village next door called to say they'll bring it over, from across the street, because the UPS driver just totally lost it, and threw it on their desk..even with my phone number he could have called me ....!!!!!!!! Community spirit prevailed, fortunately. (If you don't get delivery somehow, UPS sends it unopened,back to FAA printers !!!!!!).......Oh for simple post office shipping,lol!
10 Years Ago
@Michael.... I totally agree with you, I blame it on my brushes too...LOL
Thanks you all for your great responses to my question. I see the answers are varied just like what Vivian predicted... like our paintings themselves, each one different and each having a life of their own despite our attempts to influence the outcome.... it will be what it will be.
I do blame my paintings on my brushes and have often give them nicknames, nice ones if they perform with style and grace, or not so nice names if they fail to perform at all. Like a poker player who throws the deck of cards away after a losing game... Brushes play a big part in the outcome and yet often forgotten or abused... they sit there quietly waiting for attention, never complain and jump in with abundance colour when called upon...
A toast to the brushes, my humble friends... the next painting I do, will be for you...:-)))
Cheers,
Barbara
10 Years Ago
Work began on the High Sierra Trail in 1928 and it was the first Sierra trail built solely for recreational use. The High Sierra Trail is a hiking trail in Sequoia National Park, California. The trail crosses the Sierra Nevada range from west to east. After following along the Kern River it turns east and climbs parallel to Wallace Creek to the junction with the John Muir Trail and Pacific Crest Trail 48.9 miles (78.7 km) from the Crescent Meadow. This is the end of the High Sierra Trail. Hikers may continue on the John Muir Trail 12.6 miles (20.3 km) to the summit of Mount Whitney
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10 Years Ago
Wondering if there are more oranges than apples, one has to first decide if that includes Navel and Valencia, the Mango and Tango ( a Tangerine and orange cross ) and if it includes red, golden and green, Delicious, Pipen, Granny, the ripe and mature and/or whats picked and in cold storage .... and it may be reason why " appearances" are so very difficult to conclude.
Example : There is one artist member who has 48 galleries of just different classifications of paintings, and the total count for all of those paintings is ....2606
I say, ... that what you don't see ...... is why appearance and what is... is forever left up to .....argument.
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10 Years Ago
I would love to continue this thread by honoring our fellow painters as so many of you have done :)
Please post more fabulous paintings...
10 Years Ago
That is great to hear Brandi and what you want. Appreciate your setting a course.
Thanks.
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10 Years Ago
@ Franko
Looking at your. black and white line drawings, you might wish to take a look into the following thread:
http://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=1772775
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10 Years Ago
You are so right, Vince........revenge - it is destructive - happening now, even as and when we speak it seems..............
Vincent Von Frese
Watch out for the revenge of the photographers!
10 Years Ago
Hi Brandi, that is a wonderfully emotive painting, well chosen......and as a painting, it is beautifully done with great soft colours and a certain nostalgia that is very painterly indeed.
10 Years Ago
Occasionally I use digital paint and oil painting on the same task. For an exhibition I wanted to show a picture of the Titanic as it is now, with a small submarine examining it. But you can't go out a photograph it so I did quite a bit of research on the ship and digitally drew up a plan for the painting, based on the research. I then went from this to a digital painting to work out the colours and the lighting. When I was happy with this I was then able to paint the image on a 28” x 20 canvas in oils.
Incidentally you might think with all that research and drawing why does the bow look like its in the wrong perspective? The bow was actually bent downwards and the hull buckled just in front of the main structure when it hit the ocean floor!
10 Years Ago
To me its all art yes as painters it takes longer but to capture that moment is the point and it takes time as well.
10 Years Ago
Over 4,000 visitors to this erudite,exciting,beautiful thread........hope some collectors among them.......thanks again, Brandi.
10 Years Ago
I am here...but it just takes a lot longer to produce anything worthwhile when you paint.
10 Years Ago
We at FAA are so blessed to have such wonderful painters, even if they don't show up in the 'numbers' vs photography listings.
Here is a new discovery of a fantastic, highly accomplished artist.......her work is first-class..........please visit her and comment..........
@Kevin..........that is a great , cool, painting !!
10 Years Ago
Too right, Kevin. Have you noticed how vastly improved is the body of painterly painters here at FAA. I now have a shortlist of artists whose work I just cannot resist, who are each unique, but among them, is that wonderful 'painterly' skill that makes their work more artistic and individual and memorable, by their very brushstrokes,colours,compositions.........it's all a matter of personal taste, about art, of course..........I've spent hours here recently, drinking in the talent now on offer............that's why this thread is so good.......for me, anyway,and others, I hope...........there is lots to celebrate about our faa painters.........glad you like my recent choices, and thanks for posting.
10 Years Ago
I'm still painting away......actually sold a print last week so someone still likes paintings out there.
10 Years Ago
Newbie here only have 1 pic up so far. Just discovered I love doing abstracts. Vivian just looked at yours they are wonderful.
10 Years Ago
I paint. I paint then photograph my piece. Load it on here. Many times now after that I will play with my piece digitally and create a second edition. Then out of the digital second addition I paint again. I find it to make a piece more interesting and love offering it in many forms. Leaves me with endless possibilities and a lifetime of work.
10 Years Ago
No I need to work on painting the third addition of this piece....when the right time comes
10 Years Ago
No I need to work on painting the third addition of this piece....when the right time comes
10 Years Ago
I respect photography and "having an eye" but when I think of an artist, I think of someone who can mold an image out of nothing. I feel like photography is over-inundating the market, especially with sub-par images that don't even reflect "having an eye". Mankind invents the digital camera and suddenly everyone's an artist. This I find annoying.
It's similar to when the video game Guitar Hero came out and suddenly everyone thought they were a rock star because they could push 5 buttons in sync with a beat.
10 Years Ago
When I joined in 2010 there was a much better ratio (balance) of artist - photographer. At least to me it was. Artists were more involved in the forum also. That seems to have changed quite a lot. Much of the forum is photography related. Contests too. I wonder how many photos are on this site compared to traditional work. It's been said that prints of paintings make up half the sales here but I see photo sales having the bigger count. How can it not be with the numbers? It has become more of a photographers site. I wish the number of images per artist would have a limit of 500. This would level the playing field and would force both artist and photographers to submit only their best, making this a better site in turn. I used to visit the forum several times a day but now it's a greatly diminishing few times a week.
10 Years Ago
Wow guys am I a rock star also?
Vivian that is one of the best Jimi Hendrix images I have seen. Really shows him being a lefty.
I had a left handed friend who just flipped the guitar over which made the strings upside down.
I was always amazed how he could transpose chords and everything backwards.
10 Years Ago
Loretta, too right, but it would "level" Sean's bank a/c.....business is business.
11o/o50..photography
That's why this thread helps keep painters seen,discussed....same ratio of photographer threads in forum,too.
The Hendrix portrait is worth every cent of it's price!
10 Years Ago
Joe, be careful sweetie. Traditional artist seem to not be able to express their feelings without a few biting their heads off! I have learned just recently to keep my feelings to myself regarding art....Lets just all create and blow everyone out of the water with our natural born talent!!! ;}
10 Years Ago
My new painting completed today! :)
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/dancing-girl-meghna-n.html
10 Years Ago
I've noticed that the photographs I uploaded get much more views than my drawings and paintings, which is unnerving because I'm not a professional photographer. I studied 8 years to make those drawings and paintings. It took exactly 3 minutes to take the photographs, 2 of those to open the car window. Well, I own a Galaxy Note 3. So does the cute little 6-year-old across the road. Maybe I've wasted 8 years.
10 Years Ago
I'm going through painting withdrawal.....hope to get on to the next painting soon.
Love all the amazing art in this thread.
Cheers, Barbara
Saint Jean Arts
10 Years Ago
Brandi's here, Abbie, and a lot from her is in the Skip............
edit........this thread has more comments , chat than many just/images thread.....at least we chat.
'Brandi Hickman
E-Mail
I would love to continue this thread by honoring our fellow painters as so many of you have done :)
Please post more fabulous paintings..."
Plus four more posts after that one..............just fyi
10 Years Ago
Hi Abbie, I am in this thread, and I am enjoying every piece of art that has been posted. I have found many new painters to follow and lots of new friends. Thanks Vivian for "The Empty Nest" display. Oh!!! I do love the one above this post named "Descending" by Dale Witherow.
Happy Spring Everyone!!! :)
10 Years Ago
Ekaterina, your paintings are wonderfully done. I took a look at your gallery and I'll have to say it is fabulous. Your use of color and freedom of brushstrokes is truly inspiring. Thanks for sharing :)
Loving this thread :)
10 Years Ago
Still painting against the odds.
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/strange-saint-2-chaim-nissim.html
10 Years Ago
Here is a WIP I've been busy with
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5t4n5pvf3vaoouu/Photo
Sorry - can't get the Dropbox link to work.
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The gifted creative ones. http://fineartamerica.com/featured/heavenly-path-jacqueline-martin.html
10 Years Ago
This seems to have gone back to being a sharing image thread only I did ask that people spoke in it to each other as we have enough image threads now
10 Years Ago
Abbie....four other threads came after this one, after you said no more image threads...why do you watch this one, about painters? We can't always comment about the subject, but we keep to Paintings...why the fuss..? We do answer the OP to say we are here....
Villages
Trees
Sketches
Etc
4 photography threads
Monitors
Etc
You had 'enough' threads after ours and before those I cite/allowed!
All the above are new, "post", without comments....why the fuss? Those were allowed?
Over 6000 visitors see our Paintings...
Dare I ask...is someone un generously complaining about Painters? On an Art site?
10 Years Ago
It is always a disappointment to think you have an image to submit to a contest only to see the dreaded "photography only". I work very hard at creating my art and I wish there was a fair chance to share it and get exposure through contests. There are occasionally contests for traditional art that exclude photos, but they are far and few between. It seems as though photography has taken over.... I don't think things will change- photography sells.
10 Years Ago
Yes, I think photography sells better,mor because their work is usually printable, whereas painters don't always capture their work well for print....
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I agree Vivian. Paintings and drawings don't translate as well as photography in prints. And photographers can produce their art at a faster rate than can a traditional artist, so they have larger portfolios. Photography is copious and that makes it easier for shoppers/searchers to find photos of the subject matter they search for. The more photography shows up in searches, the more it sells... Then the more it shows up in searches. As compared to paintings and drawings. It seems like photography is more accessible. Plus, these day so many photographers produce photos that look like paintings, or even drawings.
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I agree Vivian. Paintings and drawings don't translate as well as photography in prints. And photographers can produce their art at a faster rate than can a traditional artist, so they have larger portfolios. Photography is copious and that makes it easier for shoppers/searchers to find photos of the subject matter they search for. The more photography shows up in searches, the more it sells... Then the more it shows up in searches. As compared to paintings and drawings. It seems like photography is more accessible. Plus, these day so many photographers produce photos that look like paintings, or even drawings.
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Yes Viv you are spot on. I saw in another thread (about photography, what else?) where (and I will misquote this) the question was about a portfolio. The response was something like "well, you ONLY have 150 photos and you need at least 500 to make a presence." There are I dare say 100s of thousands of photos in many thousands of portfolios.
I am very heartened by the fact that Vincent van Gogh is still with us painters here on FAA. He even has his own page I believe. Maybe Ansel Adams will join the photogs here on FAA?
10 Years Ago
Caught me by surprise yesterday when a man viewing this piece near my work station commented "Wicked!" and asked about purchasing it...
One of my first oil paintings from back in 1983 -- I'd been teaching myself from various tutorial books from the library.
My mother-in-law's favorite piece, not necessarily mine but overall it has become so because she loved it so much.
So cool to have someone exclaiming over it 30 + years later :)
Always remember that others' vision may be considerably 'fresher' than yours ;)
~ Carmen Hathaway
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I've calculated that it will not be until 2020 that I will have 500 pieces of artwork on the site to 'make a presence'!
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Thank you,Abbie. Glad we're still open. 6.6 K visitors to FAA via this thread...good for business.
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Among the painters are various schools....here is a fav painter of mine, whose work is usually figurative, but this new work is a 'trad' still life, and in keeping with his style. Painters can really investigate all ways of working,with so many mediums,too...all of which take too long to dry,lol
10 Years Ago
I will get in on the action. I paint in acrylics mostly, by hand, with actual brushes and gooey paint. I say all that because digital painters are using their hands also, just in a different manner. I used to paint exclusively in oils, but now rarely do so.
Edit: OOPS, forgot that this one was done in oils!
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Had a lot of fun with this one a couple of years ago in a forum thread here...asked for opinions as to whether this was traditional painting, acrylic -- or digital.
Some did think it was digital -- it's acrylic, on panel board.
~ Carmen Hathaway
10 Years Ago
Well, Phyllis, it is an interesting situation. I think perhaps due to their larger folios, photographers do have more contests for them, than are there contests for painters.....whose folios are smaller, usually. That's why we're answering the OP with paintings/artworks, to help them be seen in their numbers via this thread.....which has lots of visitors.........
Here's a painter I really admire........
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Thanks Rebecca...wow *back atcha ... LOVE this .....Painting - Oil On Canvas With Plaster Overlay
* & everyone here ...fun to appreciate where we're all coming from.
~ Carmen Hathaway
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Spring is sprung in parts of the northern hemisphere and springing in others. At the same time it is moving into Fall in the southern hemisphere.
It's a pretty amazing place ... we live on and call Earth.
The broad variety of work being posted to this thread is awesome. Being both photographer and painter, I do enjoy both, but there is color, movement and part of the artist reflected in paintings. It's two different worlds / ways of expressing and capturing scenes, moods, and emotions.
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I agree. For the first time, since I became a member of of FAA, I just start displaying my paintings on here. I usually sell them on commission and are typically a one-and-only painting. I'm getting ready for an exhibition so I now can upload a few. It does seem though that the paintings are disappearing on FAA. http://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-getaway-donald-jones.html
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I find that many of the photographs are beautiful & have had permission to paint a few ,working on one now ,,But that being said I enjoy looking at art that has been painted with sometimes many hours ,,,a few struggles but most happy & for me lots of black paint to get rid of what just didn't look "right " ,, keep on painting everyone ,,so many amazing artist i have seen on this discussion ,,sharon
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A case in point, about photography outnumbering photographs of paintings.........I'm still not satisfied with this enhanced photo of an artwork with nuances,textures,design that look so different on the canvas........it was all I could do to get this to reflect its qualities, without the photo looking , um, over the top......still not sure! Photography of our art is a real challenge......
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I hope it's okay to include drawings? This was done in colored pencil. I usually draw photo-realistically with graphite. Colored pencil is very different, I struggle with it but I enjoy it and am excited to work with it again. My colored work isn't as good as my b&w, but maybe someday... My b&w drawings usually take anywhere from 15- 40+ hours of draw time, so it'll never be possible for me to keep up with photographers. All I can do is try to grow artistically and increase my portfolio size and diversity. I've been trying my hand at different kinds of subject matter/genre lately. I figure if I can get good at drawing lots of different things...then, I can offer lots of different things- something for everybody!
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I keep coming back and back and back to see all the marvelous painters. And yes I love to see great colored pencil works Sarah.
Ronald! Always good to see you.
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In the interest of offering exposure -- for painters of realistic, scenic landscape paintings, .... there is a contest for submitting work.
http://fineartamerica.com/contests/realistic-landscape-paintings-no-1.html
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Yes ..... there is a lot of photography ...and in contests .....There are a lot of contests on specific focus which never includes painting.
So ...I will be running a series of contests .... specifically... for painters !
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Hi, I'm new today. :)
Well, I've definitely noticed the very large number of photographers listed as I've gone through artists from today and also in my area. I am a traditional painter, though rather new to it. My first love was pencil/pen drawing, and then pastels. Only in the last few years have I begun to seriously explore painting.
In the past I've dabbled here and there with painting and it's a different experience, but one that I'm finding myself enjoying more and more. I think, being a pencil artist first I had a desire to control my work. I always kept my work very photographic, but with paint there is a looseness and fluidity.
It's very gratifying when you step back after hours of work and have something beautiful and full of life.
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I didn't notice that about the contests but good observations. I like the comment about it takes longer to paint a painting than take a photo & if you like me, I have go and take photos to get ideas for paintings!
I've been neglegent about being on here & with my art as other things have taken presidence but just added a new one today & more on the way! :-)
Happy painting to all!
[how did some of you put pics of your art here?]
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Yes I think in the contests and forums, a lot of photography is to be seen against paintings and other types of artwork. Also on the searches there are more photographs. But the sales page seem quite balanced between the two. I image that the completion for photographers to sell their work is steeper, with their being a larger pool of them compared to painters.
I think that most of the sales of the two media come from outside marketing, where the imbalance is not noted, otherwise this imbalance would be seen in the sales, possibly, if buyers only searched on the FAA to buy.
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Thanks for the contest Shasta ,& Sarah i love your Drawing ..I agree with Sarah its very gratifying when a painting is finished ,,,Happy painting everyone ,have a great weekend
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@ CJ Sky Here is the instructions for posting images here. Just make sure you get the whole link while it is high lighted rolling by.
Next to each image , where it says "LINK" is some HTML code which makes a ‘badge’ to use on other sites or in the discussions.
Now, right click is disabled to help stop theft so how do you get hold of that code? Highlight it by clicking in the left edge of the box.
When highlighted, click ctrl + C on your keyboard […] - different with a Mac !
Go to forum, click Reply - empty box opens
Click Ctrl + V .. to Paste... the link and get a picture posted.
Courtesy: Isabella F Abbie Shores our Moderator
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How to post pix to forum
http://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=1551451
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Hi Rebecca. I love to explore different styles, probably so much that to the casual observer of my work, it looks as if I don't have a personal style. Yet, I make no apologies for it and I believe when one looks at my the larger body of work, my style emerges.
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I was reading this thread about a month ago, and the way many of you described how much you love doing traditional painting made me want to paint. I had purchased a canvas a few months ago with the intention of doing something for my living room. I needed something with red in it and love bright colours. I prepped this canvas and it sat in the closet until I read this thread.
I had no idea what I would produce. I've never taken art in school and other than twice when I was much, much younger I've never completed an original. I did buy one of those paint along books and did a couple of paintings from it, but when I tried to do an original realistic painting of our dog I became overwhelmed and frustrated that I couldn't make it look right.
After that I switched to doing realistic graphite and did four pieces, then took up photography and it all ground to a halt. So my entire portfolio is 4 graphite drawings and 1 painting. This is the only painting in existence by me....
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I agree completely!
Lisa should keep painting. That is great for a first painting...especially with no art training.
Here is my very first watercolor painting:
It was not my very first painting, however. My first attempt was in High School and was HORRIBLE. :)
I did three acrylic paintings between then and the watercolor, and I think one of those was good enough to show anyone. :))
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Shasta, please don't forget to include drawers in your contests. My drawings take anywhere from 15 - 40+ hours to complete. I feel just as left out in the myriad of contests for photography only.
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Lisa , that's a gorgeous horses painting, congrats.
About drawings, what I do is enter them into groups for black and white, if not restricted to photography, of which there are three - no drawings allowed. It's a quiet part of the artworld, and here, unfortunately. There is also a Drawings and Paintings group that supports drawings,too.......have a look.
And so, I learned my images weren't printable , and re-loaded a new one, below, which should print ok - it's such a worry; and its derivative Abstract Golden Glow, I had to re-shoot - now I'll sit and worry..........sigh
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May my art work stands no where in compare with great artists here. But still i can say any one can sure get fun in my art. I invite you to visit once there and reward me with your valuable comments. http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/sachin-tarkas.html Thanks
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Sachin you do have some fun images ...Thanks Kevin for showing Yulonda 's art I enjoyed her gallery ...
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Great self-portrait, Kevin; great still life Sharon.
Thank you, Steven, as a photographer with eclectic taste in all Art, for joining this thread in such a positive way, and sharing your favourite paintings....
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IMO - Painters create a real competitive advantage for FAA over sites like Getty's Photos.com.
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There is talk about finding a niche. I do believe that is key. Is painting and drawing becoming a niche in its self? There seems to be many painters who have gone to digital painting and say that has opened up a whole new world.
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Well, Jim, two thoughts
Digital Painting is an art form,discipline on it's own, away from Original Painting with paint on real canvas.
As a painter, electronic media has opened a new world for me....I make new Art digitally from my canvas art, and love the endless possibilities.
Drawing with pen,pencil, charcoal, brush,etc, on a physical support, not a file, is the guts of painting.
But, not sure how this relates to the topic, that photography images outnumber original,painted images, not files...real canvas and paper,etc.
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Vivian I think that was the topic. Where are all the painters? Many do digital work now instead of painting. Will painters become more and more rare. The younger ones may go straight to digital these days being directly from the computer revolution.
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Hi Jim, it's 12.30 a.m. here, can't think anymore, so will have to catch up later.
Have to agree though....electronic art is endlessly exciting,,,for different reasons...and some same reasons too, and I hope the young learn the fine art basics, because those basics apply to all disciplines....
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I agree Vivian and am not saying digital is not Art. I do want to make that clear. That is it for me to I have to leave also. Going to work for a little while this morning.
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I have yet to find a niche. I thought I had...I think of my specialty is drawing portraits of people and pets. But lately I've been drawing still life, and even florals. All different kinds of subject matter. I notice a lot of photographers, especially those that make a lot of sales, tend to have several different galleries- a lot of variety. So, I've been trying to do the same. I figure the more variety I have to offer, the more likely I am to sell something. Something for everybody. I do get commission work but, for the most part, people want me to draw their loved ones or pets. I've only once been commissioned to do something non living. It was a truck. I haven't been sharing my art for very long (online or otherwise)...only since July. I'm hoping I'll get the opportunity to do a wider variety of commissioned work as time passes.
Despite the variety of my work, I do feel that I've developed a style. At least where my graphite work is concerned. I get a lot of enjoyment out of trying new things and pushing myself to draw something outside of my comfort zone. I would get bored if I had to focus on one specialty all the time. I see more painters/drawers branching out and painting/drawing a wider variety of subject matter. And, Jim, I do think perhaps painting & drawing have become niches themselves.
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After over 3 years my sales momentum is starting to move forward at a faster pace. Not enough to write home about but it is showing slow progress. A funny thing happened - a few years ago I went to a Japanese Garden and took some pics. They were half way decent so I tweaked in Photoshop and uploaded to a 'Photography' folder here on FAA. I was thinking of painting it at some point but never got around to it. More to fill up space as I had under 100 paintings at the time. Well, low and behold one sold today to my astonishment. A big one. I would say I invested less than 45 minutes on this so it's a great return on my investment! It's a nice bonus but not nearly as satisfying as when I sell a painting print.
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Hello Don, I just love your unique figures, and compliments on your innate colour-sense...all your pix 'work' on every level...happy you have this great talent..........thanks for sharing.
Loretta- what an outcome...shows we must keep the faith in ourselves...so glad your original sold. I think there's a real thrill too when a print is sold..........though am in a trough now myself.......sooo many return visitors/ip matching addresses.....lots of 'lookers', lol. Never give up !!!!
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Vivian - I have only sold three in the last two months so I'm pretty much near the bottom of the barrel sales wise. But for me, even three in two months is an improvement. Lol. The one that sold was actually a photo which was so surprising.
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I'm glad we can still post paintings on this thread. I have enjoyed all the artists work. Thanks you guys :)
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My main work is painting, I like taking photos too!
But being that this is only my second day on this site...
I have noticed and overwhelming amount of photographs.
Fortunately, we live in a world covered with folks of different taste!
It's a party for everyone!!
10 Years Ago
Depending on my mood, my mediums range from
charcoal, pen&ink, acrylic, watercolor, colored pencil... and sometimes a mix!
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/eternity-emily-s-connors.html
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Yes, where are all the painters and where are all the painters who don't use photographic references? On the whole, I don't these days.
9 Years Ago
Love the great art on this thread. Here is my latest Abstract and as I said before it's in tribute to the mighty brush....
Cheers,
Barbara
Saint Jean Arts
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Neil, photographic references, you ask whether painters 'still' use them, well, of course, but I doubt that would turn up in a painting's description as necessary to know, for the visitor. Just recently, a dear painter friend here took a fancy to my photograph......btw...I'm primarily a painter...........and from my reference came her stunning painting..........I think it's ok to reference a photo.....most don't paint plein air these days, do they? And, this nice thread celebrates painters of all 'callings' to help against the plethora of (great) photography here.
The Photo: ......................... The Painting: