Since When Are We Limited To 120 Comments Per Hour?? And Why?

Let's see,. I have maybe two images that have a total of 120 comments that were gained over many months. I do not think this limit has hurt me! :)

Well I be you sure are a fast typist to post that many comments in an hour.

Yeah, is it even possible to post 120 comments in an hour? Or are you talking about 120 comments from other people you your own art, because that would be possible, I guess....

we are liviing in a very wonky world of faa these days.....maybe it's part of the BIG NEW change coming our way this month. I've personally had a bunch of wonky issues this week alone.

All I got to say:....hmmmmm

a day not month

If a friend is posting and gets a pop up saying you've already had 120 for HOUR (sorry not day) then she might not go back to mine to comment after that hour.
That effects us all.

write it up to tech help....it might be another dastardly code thing that Abbie can fix quickly from her end...

120 comments an hour is alot, that's about 2 a minute, use it wisely and thoughtfully, and everyone is happy and the servers and buyers trying to use the servers will thank you. -W

if people can load 100 images a day and knock everyone else off our feed for the most part, that is okay? But I have been ill and was trying to catch up and they will not allow me to comment on those I support here??? DUHHHHHH...dumb of them!

That's not the point. The point is that a friend is trying to leave comments for her friends because at this time of day it's the best for her. This limits everyone who gets comments from her too.

EricaMaxine,

Re: 120 Comments/hr

You wrote,.."That effects all of us"

Not all of us,...Since I only make well thought out comments (work that knocks my socks off), I can/ will only expect/ accept the same in return

That's great if you do, but if a friend of yours is limited and cannot access you for a comment then it effects you. It's not what you write, it's what they CAN write.

Is it even possible to write 120 comments in a one hour period?

I wish I was that fast... but some are

David,

I suppose" cut & paste" can do it.

I could name names of those that do. But I won't. If you paste the same messages there is really no typing involved.

LOL, there is a limit on that too. They only give out a certain amount of paper and paste! :-)

Brad.................. the limit is on the quantity NOT the quality or what you say. Each one is counted.

Erica, have you filed a report?

No Marlene I think my friend is and if she doesn't then I will.

Tech help is the proper venue for help, Erica. As I have already said, there have been lots of issues this week....but unless someone tells them, they won't know....and given the weekend, I doubt it will be addressed sooner than later....sigh

do you seriously think an allowance of 120 postings per poster per hour is not enough? have you considered that that limit might be there to stop clogging resources?

Contact tech if you desire.

What they will probably tell you is that 120 comments per hour is to keep people from gaming the system by trading comments at that rate or to keep spam programs from commenting on everyone's work.

120/hour is more than enough.

If I were to say anything, which I won't, seeing as 'do we know this to be a set rule'?, I have noticed a deluge of the same (almost) comment posted so quickly to AS and in such numbers, that all we have is those posts, leaving no chance to butt in with one's own, carefully thought-out response to someone's Art......pushing all who speak off the boards..........but I'm not saying anything here......
We need Tech clarification, as with all Rules and the codicils thereof.

edit addendum..........Is there an ill-perceived idea that if one comments to everybody, they are appreciated? And, do the commentors really think that piggybacking themselves on everybodies' images gets them seen? - as in 'spam' - ?

anything over 120 comments an hour is akin to spamming in my opinion...if this is even true. the only way to do that is cut and paste. You couldn't possibly have time to really look and appreciate a work and make a thoughtful comment on it at that kind of rate. That's one comment every 30 secs, seriously? If there is a limit per hour set, I think it should be no more than 30 per hour.

wow 120 is a lot, I don't even know that many people closely to spend an hour making comments to them Wow 120 I am still scratching my head. I am glad we now know the limit when we want to do more than 120 in an hour lol

Thanks Marlene yes I agree.

Menega, I am not leaving 120 comments an hour but if someone does they get a pop up saying for the good of our artists... not sure if that's the exact words but no one ever asked me if I wanted my comments limited. And........ they could be limited if 10 of my friends (for ex) go over their limit and cant get back later. I like all the comments I can get.
Wish I did get that many or could give that many. She has over 7 pages of contacts that she cannot leave comments for because her hour was up... get it?

good point Melissa

@ Erica, I don't want someone just commenting for nothing I would like it to be genuine. It takes me time to read them also and time is precious :)

Again I will say that I am NOT the one that types that fast. A friend of mine was leaving comments for different people and was stopped.

I don't care if you think120 is a lot or not, but the principal is why would they tell her it's for 'our' protection if I didn't authorize. it.
That's only 1 part.

No one has appointed anyone here the decision of quantity. That's why I brought it up, for discussion... not anything else.

We get that you are not the one making the comments.

What people are saying is that it is in fact spam at that rate and that is why it is not allowed. The site does lots of things for your protection that you did not expressly authorize.

Edit: When it comes down to it, making that many comments cannot be genuine comments and that is why people are judging the quality. You opened the discussion, let them discuss....

I would say then it is any companies prerogative not to allow more than you want and well you need to live with it like stopping at a red light since every where has rules even if not everyone agrees with them.

Discussion is fine, that's why I put it here. But saying 120/hr is enough isn't anyone's call except the big guys. < that is what I would like explained. I don't leave spam, I can't type that fast lol.

Congrats on your sale x 120 = B S + spam

But it looks like the big guys did call it by saying no more can be posted so I am confused what the deal is, it seems like you think there should be unlimited or what are you saying??

I hate Saturday threads.

lol Bradford

yes, erica, i realized before you weren't the one spamming 120 comments per minute. but you are the one complaining because the person flooding those comments didn't get around to posting on your image before the hourly posting door slammed shut. so that is why you don't think 120 per minute is enough. the "big guys" implemented that limit - without your authorization - so that should be that. no?

LOL Bradford.........but how else will we know what each of us is experiencing in our social lives via art?- Sat threads are nice, they're so.....um.......social, like f/b...........a little 'light' relief from discussing art all the time....here, of all places, lol........

There has to be a lot of Ctrl+V pasting going on of the same exact "comment." I would not want many "Great shot, vibrant colors!" or some other generic comment on all of my shots. "only" 120 comments per hour is actually really generous in my opinion. I actually wish there was a way to cut down the Ctrl+V comments more than there already is.

omg Bradford, that was so deadpan funny, lol!!

Limits are necessary, 120 per hour for any carbon based life form is 100 more than enough. Without limits, in addition to the validity of the comments, faa is exposed to Denial Of Service DOS attacks by rogue-bots (different from your friendly search indexing bots) where servers become inundated by commands that the entire site comes to a screeching halt for everyone, and that includes buyers. -W

The Big Guy seems to have dictated that 120/hour is enough. Thus, the rest of the discussion is about if that should or shouldn't be the limit but when it comes down to it, I don't see it changing.

So someone could turn commenting into a Doomsday machine. Well then that explains it.

I can see a scenario where evildoers of the universe harness the sleeping timebombs of all those zombie bots (computers already compromised by viruses) out in the wild in a coordinated effort to close down faa! Things of which sci-fi and the future are made of, right? The future is now brotha! --W

(among many others)

http://www.cnet.com/news/twitter-crippled-by-denial-of-service-attack/

I'm sure the 120 limit is to keep automated programs from flooding the site with junk and sucking up resources. IMHO 120 an hour is already spam territory. What thought could someone possibly put into a comment at a rate if 120 an hour and what constructive purpose could it possibly serve? Maybe it should be lowered to 30 an hour. That might be enough time to actually look at the images and say something unique about each one.

If people do that then commenting should be completely removed from the search algorithm because it means absolutely nothing.

I doubt comments count all that much for the search. Some people seem to think if 2 or 3 on an image is good then 20 or 30 is better. Maybe, maybe not. It has already been confirmed that the algorithm can not be gamed so easily. I think some people are just here for the amount of comments they can collect.

As a last recourse, due to the emptiness of the comments,and the constant appearance of someone trolling my artwork....I now am happy to remove all their comments, without a reply, when necessary, without the slightest regret.......don't park on my turf,thanks...that's the message..........

At this very moment, 3/4's of the comments emanate from one person, 4/minute average, thus keeping to the rule?

I agree with Roger: “You wrote,.."That effects all of us" 

“Not all of us,...Since I only make well thought out comments (work that knocks my socks off), I can/ will only expect/ accept the same in return”

This sounds to me like it has to do with the “tit for tat” promotional groups.

Since my first week here at FAA I have held that such groups are not only bad for FAA, but the members as well.

I had NO idea that these---or at least SOME of them were making as many as 100 comments an hour! I would think that 120 comments a DAY would be more than enough!

I'm sorry but the limit had always been there. Sounds like your friend is pasting in comments or using a bot. Either way they are triggering the spam filter. Comments are meant to be only on work that is worth it and should be genuine

By the way, cut and paste does not work for me on FAA comments, unless I am commenting on one of my own images, or commenting here on the general discussions page.

Dear Folks...I am the person this happened to. I am truly sorry some of you feel as you do...we are each entitled to our OPINIONS! You see I have been diagnosed with cancer in the past 6 weeks, I have been ill, I have been run around by the medical profession like a fool until I am lost as to where I go next and what I do. Add daily events to that and one is put on overload. I have not been making regular submissions of my art, yet my site is paid for in full and I am one to be courteous to my fellow artists both here and on the other 4 sites I belong to.

I tire easily, I cry often, and am alone and scared in this medical dilemma I am challenged with...but I never stop caring about my fellow artist and last night I had some down time, some time I though to catch up on my gratitude to those who have left comments I have not had time to reply to, and to leave some comments on those I engage with regularly. I knew of no limits as this site is sold "UNLIMITED". I feel some jabs of persecution here for "BREAKING" the rules, again I am sorry those who feel that way do, again you are entitled to your feelings.

As far as typing that fast and making that many and is it possible...well yes...I graduated university of art with a 4.0, typing which I thought was a stupid course to have to take in the arts, was mandatory, and I learned to be proficient in that as well as courtesy to other artists and respect for others in the arts!

So there you have it, and should I leave this earth tomorrow, may those, including FAA, have full understanding as to why a possibility dying woman dared to break their rules!
Have a great day...huge smiles to all
Pamela

Oh and by the way...why is it not okay for someone to comment on other work and say a polite thank you in bulk as FAA clock sees it, but it is okay for the same person to load 20-30 or more images all in a row as quickly as their computer allows? Out of those 20-30 images loaded at once are versions of the same image...B&W, color, painted, rotated, effects added, fractalius view, and so on and so on! When this happens (much heavier stress on the servers by the way) when my feed comes up many people I would like to see their current work are omitted...instead I see repetitive images in different modes, and some quality work will never appear in the feed...this is right? Those people are the abusers of bandwidth, taxing the servers, and wasting their own time, and punishing the other artists. Pick your best image and show it...then leave it alone!
This has always annoyed me about this site, maybe they should take a further look!
Pamela

120 comments an hour is still a lot. And I'm sorry you have cancer. None of us knew this while we were posting our opinions, of course. But, again, 120 comments an hour is still a lot.

I never thought it was you! There's another who has been posting to drown us all out/off Activity. The issue,for me, is these "one-word" comments to anybody/everybody, the same, so obviously spamming.....
Agree about those uploads of the same image, but, that's the privilege of membership, too.
Most importantly...this stress can't be any good for you.....I sincerely wish you a successful outcome,and better future....
Vivian

Pamela, keep this in mind, YOU are more important than the comments you are leaving. In this important struggle, please don't stress over rules on a web site. Take care of YOURSELF. We wish you well...

wow, that's a lot of comments, unless your cutting and pasting them, that's almost spamming. it's always been like that, but i thought the number was lower, like 40 comments.

---Mike Savad

there is no advantage to comment like that, they won't get more sales or press time if they are there. and not many buyers look at the recently commented pages - or i would think they had better things to do with their time.

if it's for a thanks only, you can email those. adding to the comments just to thank them for their comments, doesn't really help anyone. let people comment on yourself without you feeling the need to repay anyone. that's the way the comments should work.

---Mike Savad

Pamela,

I applaud you for your guts in responding to this thread.. It was a brave thing to do.....My heart goes out for all that you are now facing.

Upon going through your portfolio, I must say that all the positive comments you received are well deserved.

Being a new neighbor of yours (Washingtonville, NY) your fine photographs of the area means a lot to me....I would love to meet you face to face.

This one photograph in particular, stopped me in my tracks!!



The Movement! ,The Fluidity!. The Vitality!..The Pure Romanticism!! in this image of a static flower is Breath taking!!.

I'm sure it happens. When I first joined, I thought the groups to help promote you were sincere. Found out some were but most comment (nice shot) on every comment they write. I deleted all those off my comments as they aren't sincere. I then left those groups as well. Anyone can copy and paste way more120 comments per hour as Roger stated.

Thank you so much Roger, and welcome to the area! Once I get some of these medical issues resolved and life slows down a bit for me it would be very nice to meet up...will keep you posted! Thanks for your input.

Pamela,

Since, my earlier comment in this thread was bumped up, thanks to Walter Holland, I would like to comment now on your second posting.

Boy! Do I agree with you!!

Before you came aboard, I was tempted to make snide remarks upon reading this

"Limits are necessary"

but afraid to do it.

Anyone making anywhere near 120 comments in an hour, just wasted an hour and a whole mess of bandwidth. As others have pointed out, I too question the sincerity of that many comments in that short an amount of time.

Andrew
If you had read my post above you would know I was doing such with sincerity and to catch up an much missed work. I had my health for that time span and was able to sit and work here...I am not a spammer nor am I wasting my time. I was simply doing what I normally would do over the daily routine of my site work...but needed to put it into the hours I could do such and not be in pain and discomfort. I am dedicated to my fellow artists...it amazes me how many just are clueless of this dedication!
Pamela

Pamela,

With your explanation,I'm convinced that your motivation was pure.....But I hope you don't take a blinds eye, to those, whose sole purpose is to receive returned comments.

Just check the "Most Comments" listing and see how many images come from the same members.

No one can tell me. with the millions of worthy images here on this site..these few artists are so far superior to have multiple images listed.

Pamela, for whatever reason you were commenting, the spam trigger was tripped. Your situation was unique but 99.99% of the comments that hit that number will not be, and it is them the site is set up for.

Roger...I can assure you they were and always are...you can read my post if you would like on FB https://www.facebook.com/PineSinger I posted this early this morning after reading one of the responses here...not yours by the way. Perhaps you will know me some better through this.

Thanks for the heads up Abbey...I am sorry to have caused this but my motives were surely not to spam anyone or even to promote myself through such actions. Merely acknowledging my fellow artists ! Next time I am away for a time I will merely post an image with regards to this matter.

I have not been making regular submissions of my art, yet my site is paid for in full and I am one to be courteous to my fellow artists both here and on the other 4 sites I belong to...

Hi Pamela,
Your desire to be courteous to your fellow artists is admirable. My wish for you is that after you kick cancer in the ass - you'll return to an uneventful healthy life.
Best wishes,
--Donna Proctor

Supposedly I was told it has something to do with spam. Which to me make no sense. Personally I think it is a clitch in their system. As I work there are times when I may comment alot all at once. I myself do not see what difference it makes. The server is slow anyway. I still get spam on ocassion which has nothing to so with comments.

I am sure there is alot to running this site. Some things are important some not so much.

More than 120 comments in an hour makes the person a robot or a genius.

making 120 comments / hour - means you are making two every minute (one comment every 30 seconds) ... did you stop to look at what you were commenting on?

Pamela has been in and explained why she did it and she is to be commended for doing that and we hope she gets better very shortly

As people do not read the posts explaining this, nor the explanation that this is normally classed as spamming, and it is cut off automatically to stop the spam bots etc, I am going to close this now