I'm A Painter. So Am I A Loser

Only if you start cutting your body parts off. Then you'll have to die before anybody takes you seriously.

You could always take up photography and turn your luck around.

If she left you because you don't spend enough time with her... maybe that means she still likes you.
It's the ones who leave because you're spending too much time with them that are lost causes.

Try a temporary separation.

"..So am I a Loser? "


As long as she didn't take your painting equipment, you're good to go. :)

No, you are not.

Well, that was the simplest question I have had to answer in a while!

What have you lost of value? Perhaps the relationship you lost makes you open to find the right relationship. To be a winner, decide what you want to win, and then make sure that most of life's meandering changes are chosen deliberated to move you toward your chosen victory, rather than away from that goal.

Our lovely six year old daughter will be going with her.
However they will not be far away and the seperation is amicable.

If the separation is amicable, you are doing something right Andy. So many times its the other way around, which is miserable for everyone. So I would say your painting is wonderful, and your relationship is good, just not together. Your not a loser.

Oh wow Andy. Im so sorry to hear that. No your not a loser at all.

One more vote: you're not a loser.

sorry, Andy, but you shoulda put a ring on it....if for no other reason than to make sure you get to stay in your daughter's life.

break ups are sad....hurtful and sometimes includes bad words. You cannot let her words define you

When one door closes another one opens... It's just hell in the hallway. I hope everything works out well for you.

Coventina nourishes the sailor's soul
For ashore he leaves broken hearts
Flawless beauty of mortal women
Will never quench his thirst
Underway! Heave all lines! Underway!

Take care of that beautiful little angel first and foremost!

Only if you think you are... you are what you think... if you think you are you are if you think you are not you are not.. so yes if you think you are,but no if you think you aren't ,

personally doesn't matter what anybody here thinks either way other than why you think you are being a painter..I personally love to paint.. yes I have painted cars,boats,houses, mostly im a share painter.. i get my share on me.. but if you think you are a loser then we all are losers that are painters.. painter doesn't equal looser.. only painter that thinks he is a looser is a looser.. its all in the mind.. yet if I could follow my preachings as well as I could give them then I would not be falling behind lol. take care.. its all good.. when one door closes another opens.. not to worry all will be fine.. JGP

Our relationship has been rocky for some time now. She can't live with my impulsiveness, day-dreaming and easy-going nature. And I can't live with her need to control and plan everything.
I will still be very involved in my daughter's life but less so on the general day to day things.
I have discovered in life that we need some hard times to make the good times even more enjoyable, that when one door closes another one opens.
Although it will be hard at first, I do see this as a new beginning and I am in fact quite happy. Life will be less stressful and I will have more time develope my art.

Don't worry things will be ok..Im on my second marriage ,first one lasted 25 years this one almost 17 so well at 60 if anything happened and we split up ,I think I would rather be alone.. Im good at that.. although married all these years.. well..most of my single life was spent in solitude and I was more than fine..I was my own best friend..long story won't bore you with the details but I hear where you are coming from.. marriage is tough.. and we all have been there. It is a power struggle and well .. most of the time especially when you get older its better sometimes to just say whatever.. but well.. name calling and abuse is not to be tolerated.. Im not qualified to give advise here but im just sayin I would rather be alone than be abused.. and made to feel bad about myself.. im not afraid to be alone even at my age.. Art is a great escape and I thank the creator whomever or whatever it ,he or she is.. for art.. Look, just hang in there and do not make rash decisions ...If you need someone to talk to you can email me. been there done that.. its going to be ok.. really try to relax and know that.. don't stress...we are here for you..JGP

By the way ,there is nothing wrong with being a dreamer or impulsive and being who you are and don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.. !!

You are an artist as long as you aren't a photographer.

Andy.. real artist such as primitive artists with a stone ax or contemporary artists
(with :)


Create places for some human purpose.
Create extraordinary versions of ordinary objects.
Record and commemorate.
Give tangible form to the unknown.
Give tangible form to feelings.
Refresh our vision and help see the world in new ways.

You get it and this happiness! Bless you...

Double post

"You are an artist as long as you aren't a photographer."

Danl, there's a term for what you're doing, posting messages such as the one above in different discussion threads.

Andy,

You are not a loser, but somebody that is special, a purple zebra (see Seth Godwin) somebody that lives on the edge of the herd - that makes you special and unique, I love your paintings of the chaffinch and ducks bottoms up

Sometimes relationships just don't work. It doesn't make anyone a loser, it just means the fit is not right any more. Better to have an amicable separation, and both be involved in your daughters life.

You may find that the two of you get along better as friends than a couple. You'll both probably feel better about yourselves too.

I wish you the best of luck while you go through this transition.

Andy my divorce was completely amicable but it still was heart breaking.Too many memories you can't simply throw away and forget.

All it took for me to keep my marriage together was to have a heart to heart with my Hubby and tell him that I still loved him and wanted to spend time with him, but he was working and drinking too much and not spending enough time with me. I told him that things had to change or I was going to leave. He didn't realize how he was alienating me, but when I pointed it all out such as: we no longer go for walks after dinner together and I always loved that time together...I still ask, but you are always too busy, too tired, too whatever. I just put it out there in a non-accusatory way and he has changed. REALLY changed. He stopped drinking and starting spending time with me again. If you cannot do it on your own, a professional can be of help. Most important thing is to LISTEN. The only real loser is the one who doesn't even try.

Monsieur Danl I find that statement suggestive and insulting to many without any context. I very much hope it was not meant and. if part of an agenda then it need to be left off this thread.

Thank you

Definition of ARTIST. Taken from Oxford Dictionary

1 A person who creates paintings or drawings as a profession or hobby.
1.1 A person who practises or performs any of the creative arts, such as a sculptor, film-maker, actor, or dancer.
1.2 A person skilled at a particular task or occupation: a surgeon who is an artist with the scalpel
2 [with modifier] informal A person who habitually practises a specified reprehensible activity: eg rip-off artists, etc

Seems like definition No.2 fits some people

It wont be a complete breakdown. But more of a long distance relationship.

People growing apart does not make one or the other a loser. Certainly you are not. I am sorry to hear that you won't be able to be as close to your daughter on a day-to-day basis, but it is certainly good that the separation is amicable and that you will be in your daughter's life - and she in yours. Best wishes for a new chapter opening in your life.

As stupid as it may sound, as an artist I find the best way to deal with most situations in life is to put what I am feeling on canvas. (or paper, wood, photographic paper etc) It is a way for me to get my feelings out, be honest with myself and occasionally to create some wonderful works of art.