Most Views- No Sale

234 views:



I don't think it's sold because about 90% of those views have been from bots so the real views are actually really low. This print has actually sold a handful of times on another site where I rank better in search results.

1304 views



No idea why so many views and no sale. It's probably getting used as advertisement for puppies.

994 views, no sales. Not sure why......I have a copy myself and love it, it's won local awards, but never sold....

AND….some people view out of curiosity. Just because they look at something it does not mean they want to own it. Also people purchase art and photography based on a criteria different from an artist reasoning. I want to be a memebr of Artsetter.com but as an artist of that community you need to have 50 votes, kinda of annoying IMO as it remind me of popularity contest and we all know how subjective art critique can be and varies in all 7 continents. So I got quite a bit of views my paintings in Artsetters but only 1 vote (we are not even talking about buying!!!). Youc could speculate all sort of things….

Over 15,000 views and no sales! I had not been paying attention to this image and then noticed the view count around Christmas. Gets 50 views a day and no sales. Frankly, more surprised at the views than the no sales. Just simply because I wouldn't think folks art would be that popular. Also think the no sales is because the views are all bots, not real people. But still would like to know why this image?
-- mary ellen anderson

Just shy of 1200

Because people don't recognize genius when they see it...



...and because all my views are bots or members.

Joe Burgess
jb-imagery.com

There are bots looking at our photos? hmmmm ...I think its people around the world shopping for a new design or a photo they can copy for a painting or etc.. or artist looking at other artist work or .. you name it.. they aren't shopping merely curious especially when you type in a certain type of art or keyword..google picks it up just like the people that search FAA and walla! its there for them to browse and kill a few hours,days,weeks,months or ctrl prn screen to have on their computer to use to copy ,change or just look at.. anyway ..just my two cents.

3214 Views and no sales

Probably mostly bots.

1305 - don't know.

I look at it this way. If 1,000 or more people search for a certain image and find mine that matches their search, and don't buy, that tells me its not good enough or most are bots. If you have a storefront in a tourist section with pictures of the area, 1,000 people come in to shop, and no one buys a print, you need to get a new profession.

I believe that Marilyn and Kathleen have a valid point there Kevin. I too am wondering why I have thousands of views and with no purchases to this date. In the case of this photo art site I do not believe comparing it to a walk-in shop is fair Kevin.

Michael, It is not directed at her print in the least, but statistics show what works and what doesn't. If these are real stats with real buyers.
No geared towards anyone's art

OK., but I have felt that the jury is still out on this site Kevin. I am not in any way intending this question to be sarcasm or anything of the sort. Just a serious question: How long have you been posting on this FineArtAmerica site on a Premium Page or otherwise, and just how many sales have you made?

Michael, I cancelled my premium membership here, and took my work elsewhere. Never promoted anything here. Has nothing to do with the site itself, just wasn't a fit. I did meet some nice artists, and some of the discussions are good.

The counts here are essentially useless because they don't filter out bots - they probably shouldn't be used to formulate what's working and what's not. For instance, if a search engine hits one of your pages to index it, the system will count it as a view. You can somewhat discern legit views by the cities they are coming from though.

If you see views from New York, San Francisco, Beverly Hills, Kiez, Roubaix etc. There is a really good chance it is a bot.

Regardless, it makes the overall number of views meaningless.

This site is mainly meant to be used as an online portfolio. The ability to sell a print is a bonus. This site will in no way help you sell a print- getting traffic to your images is up to you.

Kevin and Toby, for those of us that are not familiar with the term "bot" could you expound on that and explain and define "Bot". ("Robotic"? A phony sent out reply? What exactly?)

And Toby. The Fine Art America Company does not advertise this site to only be used as a "portfolio" site. They clearly advertise it to be for "selling artwork" (Photo artwork, or paintings, drawings, on throw pillows, cell phone cases, prints, etc.!!! They also have a customer service crew to phone to in order to talk about purchases and returns.

Kevin, Thanks for your feedback on "moving to another site and cancelling your "Premium Site" with FineArt America". That in and of itself is a testimonial ! How long did you have a "Premium" Site with FineArtAmerica prior to cancelling it with them? Do they let a site owner cancel and get a prorated amount of money back?

I also have to wonder if people may be purchasing artwork items and the artist/photographer supplying the said sold art never gets any notice or any payment???

1850 views, no sale. No idea why...

Over 2,000 views, no sale :) Really puzzled about this one as it is all over social media. Literally over 7,000 shares on various sites.

I wonder...What would happen if you switched the photo? The old swicheroo.

2390 views in just eleven days. More curious about how it chalked up so many views in such a short time rather than why prints haven't been sold.

Michael - rather than a conspiracy theory it could be that you've only been on the site for a few months, have generic paint splotches as your gallery images, aren't promoting your work or simply don't have images that people want to buy or don't hold up against the intense competition. Just sayin'

Most people take years to build up sales.

If one truly thought they were being ripped off they would contact the Attorney Generals office and try to get an audit done.

This is mine with the most views, and it has never sold. I checked it out and of the top 10 with the most view 6 of them have sold. But the top 2 have not.

78,346 views. Probably hasn't sold because it is a very common shot.

I was surprised this week to license a shot of Old Faithful on SS for a publication. Talk about a mature subject. So you never know.

I found out an interesting statistic for my sales: mostly selling the images (80 %) which had few views before sale and have not been advertized at all... Who can give me the answer how its possible? Any ideas?
For me its a real puzzle, how the buyers finding those images in my huge collection...

P.S. Actually i still on that point that Im getting the direct buyers from FAA, otherwise how possible to find for exampe TREE image in the google search with few views and without advertizing...

I sold a shot with 3 views. All views are not created equal. The only ones that count are from buyers who are interested in your piece. If you just want views you can tweet and participate in groups on FAA.

If you want buyers you produce work people want to buy and go out in the world and find them.

Over 8800 views, mostly Chinese bots

I just started out here and had to re-crop all of my images. So I don´t have lots of views at the time. But as someone else already stated it´s probably not about the most views that a picture gets, it´s about this one person we all need, who will want to buy some of our works. That is what counts in the end. :)

Mark;

That's a great shot.



Every shot I have seen of the trestle is taken from the falls level of the second falls up. (Maybe because I'm looking for railroad shots.) So this is a nice and not seen before angle to me of this one!

My aforementioned shot here



is my most viewed and commented on shot here and among tops on two other sites I have it loaded it. I've social media'ed it out, printed a large print out to show folks. They love it. It hasn't sold. I don't know why. But this one has where I stood between the trestles to get the one further away.



As has this one from another bridge.



People like different things. I don't go too crazy trying to figure it out.

In reference to few posts above. Artists should not paint or photograph to sale in my opinion. This is exactly what cheapens art and makes everything flat and the same. Then things lack of originality and you see the same thing. If an artist has a subject that is likeble to the mass then is great, but purposly trying to accomodate your art for the market destroys art. I am new to this site and just exploring it and seeing what it has to offer. It is a great site more for buyers than artists in my humble opinion. It offers a great array of choices and price tags. However there is a lot of the same too. That is not all bad, but as artists we must be critical, honest and a little hard with ourselves. For example I would never expect to sell any of my art here (or anywhere for that matter) because is too unusual and untraditional. I do best on custom orders paintings if I want to make a buck or two. I still want to take a shot at it and expose it to more public eyes. You know how they say….you will never know. There are 2 kind of art, the one that sells and that one that does not and just because everyone likes a piece and buys it it DOES NOT make it art. The work illustrated by previous posters is very nice, and the reasons why has not sold can be so many. Can something be replicated? Are people looking for ideas? Do viewers think is a really cool piece…to look that is, since most folks buy art to fit their decor (sadly). May be someone is using those images as reference for things that have nothing to do with liking the art work either.

I hope I didn't offend anyone BTW, and I truly like Nancy painting above posted. If I was a potential buyer I would buy the original not a print though and I would not want another person to have that piece. So this is something I do not like about art made into prints, it removes the exclusiveness. :) I myself have few for sale as prints (I will probably remove those), I want to see if the price is often a factor in selecting the artwork. I don't think it is. Especially if it is priced reasonably.

Can only see the most recent views, but out of those 34 views, 14 appear to be from people, and 20 appear to be bots.

Why no sale? Curiosity, but no fit for the buyer? I don't know

Added post to follow conversation

Diana Der Maro - I do agree although you can tell by a lot of what sells here, there is a market for flat, same, common and familiar.

Certainly the most satisfying success will come to those who follow their own vision.

419 views, never sold... Having said that I have sold others with under 20 views, so go figure. As Mike says, it depends on what people are looking for. Oh, and keywording :-)



- Richard Reeve
ReevePhotos.com

Wow! Thanks for the responses and pictures. Great work here. I sold one picture that didn't even show the buyer on my viewer list.Wish we could avoid Bot's and members and see only actual views. Probably so low we would all be discouraged. Neverless this is a great site,fantastic artists.

Michael my only point is that you have to sell images to get anywhere in common search results. So in the beginning you have to bring traffic to your images yourself (that results in some sales) to get anywhere towards making sales from the search engine. So, essentially it's more like a portfolio that way (in the beginning and for most people). It's not like Etsy where they try to spread the wealth around to many shops, FAA highly favors proven sellers.

Whoa, hold on. Tody -- "Michael my only point is that you have to sell images to get anywhere in common search results."

Members without sales won't show up in a search using keywords? Are you sure about that?

606 views

North American Goldfinch John Wills

add your title and your name if you want the search engines to find them

A bot is basically any non-human page request, such as google's searchbot combing the net.

Rich you do show up but if your image is in a popular category you'll be buried dozens of pages deep, so the likelyhood of being found by any significant amount of actual people is slim.

11,831 views, 0 sales

Because people buy art that they are confortable with. Is the same with everything…fashion, personal style. Literal art does better for this reason. People say "I like that" because they recognize it and relate to it, sometimes, most times is because it just fits with the color or their living room. Blahhhh

John I love Kids on a Fence. It has that vintage poster style look.

I'm new to this site. There are so many lovely pieces to sift through. I think the odds of my work getting noticed through the search are pretty slim.

451 views

288 views, but I am still a baby by FAA standards.

Terry
tlmair.com

For my curiosity and just to know....these bots...what do they do exactly? Are they just picking up things to index in search engines or what else do they do? I see you guys talking about them all the time and just very curious..I get someone or something from Germany all the time almost everything I do..is that a search engine?

131 views

Well, lets see - you could pick any of about 500 - but - perhaps this one as an example with 350 "visitors":

Uploaded Oct 6th 2014 ---- 9,769 views ---no sales
Stumbled this on StumbleUpon Oct 23,2014 --- it has 7696 views there
Most of the views this has look unique -- not the typical bots...... it seems most of the views are from StumbleUpon --- I wish sales went along with it...
Periodically I will have a piece which "just keeps going places" ..... I usually find those are stumbling with some regularity......

"Artists should not paint or photograph to sale in my opinion. This is exactly what cheapens art and makes everything flat and the same. Then things lack of originality and you see the same thing. If an artist has a subject that is likeble to the mass then is great, but purposly trying to accomodate your art for the market destroys art."

what nonsense - artists - go back to Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Rembrandt, Monet, David, and any other "artist" and discover they painted to sell their work - not to sit on it or hide it under the bed. Creating art to sell does not "cheapen" it, nor does it make it "flat" (whatever that means), nor is it the same. It is foolish to think that 'purposely trying to accommodate your art for the market destroys art". Just my very humble opinion. I do create art for myself - but most often I am thinking of selling it and what someone would purchase. If you want to make a living or even make enough to keep you in art supplies, or camera's - you better be thinking all the time - will people buy this, will they want it to hang and display on their walls.

4,986 views

But Roy Erickson, artists of the past also recorded history. There were no cameras, or digital, or copy machines. Being an artist then was part of a craft/trade job where a person was trained since young age. Wealthy people had an artist (who at times like in Leonardo case was also architect and inventor) to "record" their images. Art of the past was a mean to document history and even political trends. Today is much less or definetly more subtle. Painted art has evolved and other media have taken over . It is important that artist preserve also the reason why they paint in the first place. This is true for every art isn't? Music is the same, and so is poetry and so forth. We all know how corporate music sucks …..just like that corporate art sucks after a while because it lacks of originality, feelings and "heart". Roy Erickson, I am happy that you can create art for both purposes in your life. I find that very confining and not liberating, since I use art to get what I cannot express with written words or music. If I am pissed off, mad, or happy it will show in my paintings and no once when I paint I think I have to make that pice in such way that is selleble art because that remove my artist freedom. I guess you can say "paint at your own risk". :)

There is simply no comparing the motives of artist that paint for therapy and professional artists. There is nothing wrong with painting for therapy but the difference between this type of artists and a professional is painting for a market. It might be the market of artistic acclaim or sales, but when you where creating that work it was for an audience. You intended for someone to see, experience, notice, or buy your work. It was for more than just filling empty spaces inside you.

Going out and getting a job is the same. It's not about you enjoying your work anymore, it's about the boss or public enjoying your work. Frankly, if you can only do something you can enjoy passionately it's not art you're good at but passion. It's a limitation, a stereotype; type casting yourself.

Artistic freedom is something you earn, not a right. You had enough artist in you to overcome the dictates of your market. It's not that Michelangelo had to paint to please the Pope but that it didn't matter.
-- mary ellen anderson

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It got a lot of views from StumbleUpon

So, how can you tell if your views are from bots?

Somebody mentioned if the views originate from New York, Beverly Hills, San Francisco and a couple of other places I don't remember now that they are probably bots.

I started keeping track of my views from Beverly Hills and NYC area a year or so ago (I've been on FAA 2 years now) when I noticed so many views coming from those areas. In Beverly Hills I've had roughly 560 different IP address views and in NYC roughly 375, many of them multiple times from the same address. I can't believe all of these would be bots. Have also tracked views from all over after about 4 months of starting on the site and I've had views from over 2,000 cities, many from multiple IP addresses as well in the same city, so likely different individuals. Again, can't believe that most of this would be from bots. If it is bot looking at your image, why would it return multiple times to the same image?

As far as sales are concerned I've only had 6 in the two years onsite. Very disappointing...but a lot of my images are Mardi Gras related or abstracts and may not be what most people are interested in buying. In fact my most popular image is a Mardi Gras one entitled The Circus with over 500 views. And, no, it hasn't sold. A lot of the views came from a contest entry a year or so ago. It's now in the National TV Contest, but probably won't get the needed votes.