I Dont Get This

Maybe there are bot portrait on rock :D

hahaha!

perhaps someone is using it as an avatar or in a blog post and the traffic is driving bot views to your image.

i've been trying to locate something like that but am not sure how to find backlinks to speific image pages on faa or pixels. any ideas? (edit: image search is only bringing up my own links.)

i can only assume there is something in the media about that area, and you just happen to have the right mix of keywords and people are finding you that way.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Forgive my stupid question, but I have been wanting to ask it, ... and this is the perfect place to do so:

How do artists here KNOW that a given visit is a bot visit? What is the tool that allows you to determine this, or where do you look to find out this detail?

Maybe the latest FAA photo contest entries should be narrowed down by whose images get the most bot visits. (^__^)

Robert Kernodle - they are proffesionals they dont leave comments :)

Coal trains are a big issue right now and you mention both in your description. Just a guess.

@mike: probably but i just wish it would have been a different image or at least translate into a sale. ah well.
@robert: you know your bots because they usually either visit a whole slew of your pictures at once or visit one and the same image repeatedly within a few minutes and they never buy anything or leave comments.
@nancy: really? how interesting!

Not necessarily bots. One of those addresses is likely a proxy server used by a blog or social media. Sometimes a social media site has your image stored on several servers. Pus others like Kiev are tracking the traffic. When a visitor hits the social media site, the site gives the visitor the copy it has stored legally and then goes back and registers a hit on the source site. Its faster for the visitor and more efficient. And accounts for a lot of the views that people on FAA call "bots". There are lots of kinds of proxy servers and lots of uses. And their locations do not always coincide with the actual visitor location.

I have one that apparently gets shared a lot as new servers crop up all the time. Most repeats are UK, Norway and Asia. And mixed in are a lot of direct visits. Up to around 6,000 views in a couple of months.

Menega, I may have discovered something you or anyone else failed to think of. Besides the keywords and without you even thinking of this, graffiti is a language which even officials do not understand fully. Did you do a reverse search to see where that may lead you. I looked at the back ground graffiti and noticed the word bomb. A turf member may have discovered your photo and its being passed around. and he may well be using the photo to spread the message via inner net. Its mostly a language used for turf, drugs, and or militant. This fascinating story years ago I happen to noticed particular photo on line something was not right with it. Someone locally submitted a photo into a local photo contest. Well curious about it I enlarged it and sure enough there was another photo concealed in the photo and very disturbing. When I started to investigate the name of the person who posted the photo it turned out the individual just so happened to live in the zone where the drugs would be shipped out that country. At the time I made my discovery, a police officer walked into the coffee shop, and I showed it to him and he informed me report it to local officials and the FBI, Because of 911 the US government was aware spy's would send messages via the inner-net. I did contact local officials here and the FBI and reported the image to them that I discovered in the photo contest. And There is a inner-net link that gives you most or all the meanings of the writing left. Something you may consider, besides the yellow painting, it may be the wording behind the painting.

Years ago I entered a local photo contest on line, it was an image of a young girl standing in front of an aquarium but the more I looked at it something was not right, the person who took the photo image was not reflected on the glass of the aquarium but other reflections were. Curious I copied the photo and the larger and larger Then I had noticed what looked like seaweed was not seaweed at all but a jungle forest and someone had taken a photo and made an overlay and hid the image in the seaweed, from above looking down and there was a person standing with what appeared as guns pointing at him. It seems the photo had something to do with illegally smuggling and weapons or artifacts. It was explained to me it was not what you think it was but images which were created by commuter language. The person who entered the photo I did a name search on that individual and it was that search which lead me to a particular place in South America. I have forgotten the technical name its called when images are secretly sent via inner-net.

Cheers, Michael Hoard Actor, Artist, Photographer

@bradford and michael: very interesting background info, thank you! (yes, i did several reverse searches.)
what is "turf"?

maybe they are trying to steal you image... :)


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

I have the same problem....to add to the confusion, i purposely changed the image and the traffic doubled! I get 300-400 visits week...makes no sense to me.....except, i can rule out thta someone cares about the image itself.

Menega, If the image is posted as a link to this site it may not show up in a reverse image search.
Marlene if the image is linked on social media with text, changing out the image is not going to prevent continued clicking on the link.

I would hardly consider it a problem. Any exposure is good. When you begin to understand proxy servers you realize that all the traffic is not bots. You can have a good mix of remote proxy servers triggered by real visits by people routed through proxy servers and followed by a volley of actual bots. So one visit racks up a lot of views and if it is shared on social media it can snowball fast.
You may never see the actual locations of the visitors or only rarely. It's all good or at least not bad.

Marline,
You probably already know this: Changing out the image may not prevent clicks but changing the title will break all links when the image is clicked on.

Yes if too many views bother you, changing the title will help you sleep better. That would be self sabatoge, but go ahead.

Maybe Secret Services? It says "BOMB" in the image.

Mengna, I had done extensive research on the language years back, I came across a graffiti sign and it had an extreme message. Turf is the neighborhood or area gangs live in. They identify certain areas in blighted areas as their turf, stomping grounds. If you search meaning of graffiti you will be amazed of the language used just among the followers....

I did an src search for you and this is what I got (sorry, it's a long link) ... it only goes back to artflakes, not even to FAA ...

https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZiuFVv8M6mbGhXwGd5HJSkEFNJf64PKh6PaOU1LFGWZJVrK6WwNE_1kxumd1KBRxG6DnG2G8yDEBfVO-Ub_1jjBSg9svSIjpqlkqi84VCTABuAz2z1-nXnXsMDx4srZBKkBjGoSsP0L6TUIPwYMrHyQ9bXXOiiQ-zWexajg1-hAUdh_1BdY4zt4CcUaUxfykjDaS9OfxrvD1Z8yzGO8nkvYzhDAqHAIbm7vgovnM46RkNSHeFM3Y5Es3gOrLs4WQzrR58XRedJJZJ2f5bxygzFLhDgi0EDmJD6eXVazBoh4XvpVgpUac4jjjfar81t2jWn3SQa3X7diLVLXCXAtn3wFaOwrp7zc6RUY4a1jPBidlYQt9IBHjbkm7jSwzEha-YcHWJW00OF8TETp9mmaLm0b1cHZWQMwbocImkUmZ8nnti7lUA0RYz99n4W2-aABLsU5tjOqI-w54a7-CnJ8aFwgnNOFFipOi_1tRCw9EU5oQY8eqj7EibLBtxWkDYQpQR2ZL8IH9cvLwxLrKgaRyu18bLr5tmdLo_1fKlkaPwuKti2rCZkiL_1ohywQZGeIvOwdlZhzSuK_12KwkAQ6VxkngMFVsecYdddgibNe4hMORt4uNKQGFmQEX5YS8Zq6BGBCtI6US7vsDjEHjOm1K9DatXcM-G9ePh0rxbUPMNdJ9jcJW9pyKv9SJo3Kb8jRA885pFSLzsmukVFhMx34JqzwCt9V_1jEH4jEvlModiFlR8a8WXoT1P9XyNiM9WCGcQQFrG6ynkFQUYC0BX3EtDQM2Du6sYgmVGmrmwlQc3SZQwUK4BlVr6uVtaot3rb2z5mES2uTculYwWJaE-1Sw_1nvDAgsGxhCqZLuzxmLNAlwiDO9ud0zYTsmE14I0GmV-Fh6UVwes9NlaUsgnlpiGkk0xxhar6gkRpomeYqRPYmoXjnhng840R-99kU1O8ixiLlNdQqrXkdqwH_1KPoYuSPbE3fZRe8nHVje2pKCOhU4Q2ohzfqMLtsJBG4SXST5itcqxM-d6r3_1C4rL8aNP2Oml7DMN9gcBlm_18jeXFAaLti0Kb1zmN8Ih0RIhH-0sX9BUprl5S-jjklw7Urq8TKsuXTmLjxquTfDY2Bl56bHPWBVhSw_1ezeB0Tw1OzK7_1ENVVtCLX8fgMsrPgzX4hi29MZC_1Ggw9qewKiaJ1xwfe05kwhepmIu4hC5eWLBB84MsAjLnCkwVy7bBeLG9_1Xul5ZWYDNXPeDkktMluvVIfI63Qj7PsJ9WIjqUV7mLUVd3mYPBals3bZKMkSjhXt7ri5c-JTsnA3krWagHV5Y8NtAVDvrD2-aIG5wiHFJqgkf9wRuuNxXL-TgBk-X9lMoR4NjhgbAkN7mf3DE7Gj_1cxl9FQIjhfo7jY3AsAPGaI04JID0JiJLYl9Jt7PdOjZ3di1HhSrLA6mLZuWl0On5MxWI3TjPPwvNg31IMX48aQ00JVF-enEUtO0keNXfh_1ADD8aR9gn1oe1wDK0NO9L2kUJrXOJ_10RM9tUPtIdBtJ1t6Ba11oTjbydWX8cKBc5rnwIONVPMqzaRL3g1OU8-BRjWY6X_1lSL_1KChxACE0nm-m1fxQ3m4A_1R9MWhAJ_16XiktldLimWbmKT10f2m6otLg&bih=261&biw=250&gws_rd=ssl

Bradford, you missed my point. My hits INCREASED....whatever is hitting this image doesn't care about the image itself. Nobody hitting it cares about the image, nor will they be buying it! I completely agree with Menega...it wasn't an image that ever got any traffic...I even considered removing it altogether.

I'm not annoyed, btw.

Mengna it was a very good observation to discover. The point is here is a photo had nothing much occurring then, bam, all of a sudden you start to get all this activity. It seems someone may well have copied the image and or is a member of Artflakes as Lois researched the photo does not even link back to Fine Art America but Artflakes.

As Mengna its just a snap shot of graffiti, and it seems to me perhaps someone did take note of the graffitt behind the painted yellow image. That can not be ruled out completely.

Interesting discussion. I have one that has been a runaway favorite- called 'Peeking Peach Face Lovebird' which in a matter of a few months has gone up to 7,000 views from what I thought was mostly bots.
Now I see Mike's comment and looked to see what would be in my keywords that could have caused it ---- how far fetched could it be - the word agapornis? the genus the lovebird belongs to?
Or maybe it is more likely, as Bradford explained, a proxy server issue?
So is it a good thing or not? Not that we can do anything about it.......

Menega or anyone, I had an interesting question to ask everyone. If she removes the photo it would remove it from Fine Art America when that is done does the search engine remove it completely from Cyber Space? Do you not have to request removing of a particular photo from the web browser host? And if in fact the photo is somewhere within Artflakes site just because Menega would remove it that photo if it is there it would have to be removed by them.?

thanks michael for the explanation of turf and lois for the search. the artflakes is my own artflakes account where i still have some stuff, this one among it. so, like i said, the reverse only turns up my own links. i think it possible that it actually might be attracting interest because of "kryot" the graffiti artist who did the large yellow piece in the forefront, he is quite famous in some parts (and quite good as well).

andrea, very interesting which of yours is attracting attention, odd isn't it. i think though it is all good, bots tend to index whatever else they find in the vicinity so that is good.

One way to find out if your image has been hijacked is to right click on the image and choose the "Search Google for this Image" option. It is not a perfect system, but pretty good in most cases.

Jumping in on this topic,....

I have a similar curiosity too.

One of my images,..... has over eleven thousand views and climbing,......I cannot fathom that being even close to correct at all,...not for the work I create anyway???

I have assumed from comments made here on the discussion groups,... that they were also bots,.....even though I don't understand bots?

My image visits average to around a hundred plus or minus,....with several a lil higher.

Maybe it is something in my keywords used as someone else mentioned.

@Menega, you just may be correct because he is a known graffiti artist and that may explain everything. There is a known graffiti artist "Binksy" from the UK he has done some amazing art. Not long after Katrina hit New Orleans he visited many parts of the city and painted on buildings. His work is extremely valuable and owners actually protected them. If you have a "Binsky" mural or painting on your wall or business, your property now becomes an extremely valuable piece of property on the market. In fact art specialist know if its an original or not.

A fascinating story just last year one of his works the "Girl With The Umbrella" thieves were trying to chisel the cylinder cement blocks from the building. A neighbor got wise and went and spoke to them. Soon after more neighbors arrived, photos were taken of them actually in the act. It was investigated by the police department and a manhunt was conducted and they were found and arrested. That particular piece would have been sold somewhere for 100,000 of thousand of dollars.

@Cindy, because of the awareness other members have alerted us to I also use the google search photo option, and sure enough it works. If your photo has no ties to someone using it. All that appears is just your photo, then below that usually google has view similar photos.

goodness, marty, which one is it... if you don't mind telling?

@michael: oh yes, banksy is famous, love his (though might be a woman) work!

Tin Eye is also a site which can research a image for you to see where else it appears on the net.

tin eyes is worth trying but i've always had better results with google reverse, don't know why.

This is the image I spoke of Menega,...

It is now at 11179 visitors

Go figure ?????

@marty: very nice work indeed! hope the bots bring you sales!

@Menega,.......that would be a nice consolation wouldn't it ?

Wouldn't mind if someone "bot" one or two then ;-))

Menega, where do you locate the numbers or bot hits is that in the information field which is located below your photographer notes and below the keywords....

it is in the right description block, below updated and above colors, labeled "statistics".