Please Don't Buy My Art!

I would say, "Buy my art, mutilate it with your tool of choice, and send it on its way into the eternal cycle of creation and destruction. ... You, the buyer of my art, might be doing the world a favor in this respect/disrespect ... by removing another piece of trash from civilization, ... as long as I get paid to provide such a self-indulgent pleasure." (^_^)

I can think of one situation.

Someone buys a large, high quality print of mine with the sole purpose of stealing the image, i.e., digitally lifting an image from the print and reproducing it for their own gain. Perhaps even under their own name with no attribution to the original artist.

But such people don't generally announce themselves first: "Hey, I'm buying a big print of yours so I can rip you off!"

Haven't thought lots about that. But I don't want to take the avenue that some folks do about where my work can be displayed and where it cannot be displayed. Reminds me of musicians getting angry because a politician is using there music for politicking. Some even sue. Once they release it publicly their music is for "everybody" to consume.

Now if it is used for commercial purposes without permission... that may be another program altogether.

One day folks will try to have disclaimers about who can listen to, who can watch, and who can look at. Such is the way of a litigious society. Worried about someone changing their message instead of their message influencing that someone.

I donīt care. Pay and you can do whatwever you want. Give me $100-$200 and you are free to reproduce unlimitedly for your own gain :D

OK,tongue in cheek !

Your art is purchased, you are happy. You love blue flowers more than anything in the world. Your art is all about blue flowers. You see the work that was purchased being used in combination with chants and slogans about eradicating blue flowers from the face of the earth. Still happy? Not sure, by the way there is any way to prevent this but just wondering, since pod sales are multiples of the same image, if you ever worried about where your art winds up.

Nope, I'm happy to sell all of my work so I can start collecting other's art. As soon as my own art sells if ever, I'm going to have my entire house painted white with shiny white trim on the windows AND I will never put another one of my own paintings on the wall, it will be other artist's work that goes on my walls. My art will only be in my galleries. That's my happy fantasy.

LOl, You can put slogan saying eliminate Martin Capek on my work and I wouldnt care :D

How about if your work is purchased by a major university. You are once again happy perhaps even thrilled! You find out that it is being used in presentations about how not to create art. You and your work are being called all types of names and your reputation is being dragged through the mud for an entire generation of future artist.

I would have to agree with Ronald on this one. I would not want my art to be used as a joke or something.

Hm,I donīt consider myself an artist, so they would be right I guess

Yes there are and No I would not

The strange thing is as an artist what happens to your work and how it is used and displayed is largely out of your control.

The strange thing is as an artist what happens to your work and how it is used and displayed is largely out of your control.

I think your question really goes beyond the bounds of merely "would you sell it". I have had opportunities to observer art, in particular public art, that was originally purchased and installed with I assume some fanfare. I see it in public buildings and often in cities as sculptures. When the work was installed I am sure the artist was thrilled and there was some type of public gathering, now years later it may sit along a busy street amid run down buildings and a deteriorating neighborhood, mostly ignored and forgotten. I also see painings stuck in the back halls of public buildings. How would you feel if that were your art?

I would not have a problem with my work in the back hall of a public building. It might be the only spot of color the people who work in the back halls of public buildings ever see. I work in an office building, I love the pastel landscapes they have in the hallways, they always brighten my day.

I wish they would repair or replace the broken 3-D giant flower thing on the wall, though, damaged art bothers me.

An argument can be made that people who live in rundown neighborhoods need public art in their part of town just as much as the rich folks from pretty neighborhoods do. I'm not sure I'd have a problem with that, unless the art itself was in disrepair.

I have not read this thread. I have seen it here for some 24 hours plus.

I have nothing to say.

Dave

Buy a huge print of mine for the Superbowl and have one of teams burst though it on live TV. Be my guest.

How about buying a huge metal print and installing it for use as a gum wall? Go for it!

Purchase a print of mine and resell it at a profit! Enjoy!

There have been artist such as Rothko who were very touchy about where and how their work was displayed and viewed.

That guy committed suicide.

Ed,

It was a judgement call.

Dave

True, but he was concerned anyway, perhaps he realized there was little control after the work went away?

How about if you have a belief in a religion and the work was purchased, slightly modified and used to make fun of the very thing you believed in? Would it make it better or worse if the person who modified your work now claimed it as their own?

Part of life.

If he directly copies me I say that is infringement, if he differentiates his work from mine I hope he sells
well. I then want to see that my work sells well because he is helping burn the trail.

Dave

Ronald,

The question about how the art is used is not in the control of the artist unless there is a commercial venture involved making money and there is no agreement for the image to be used.

Once it leaves my hands... bought and paid for, it can be used to start fires for all I know. It could be a picture of a Jesus Christ painting transformed into a pale blue face and given a star and moon on his head. I may not like it, but so what? And if it is a parody of whatever I do as serious work just for the very purpose of putting me down, it doesn't matter. Those who know me know who I am. Those who are dead set against me because they just don't like what I stand for I have no control over any more than I have control over someone who is a gossip.

Most of us here are not popular enough to have to worry about such things. If we were to get popular we would be well advised that this kind of thing is going to happen one way or another. The competition will start it if nothing else.

Otherwise, we are just not significant enough for others to bother with.

Glenn, I agree but the more images out there through POD and the cheaper it is the more the odds of misuse become, I would think. Just wondering if that would bother anyone or not. I stated that once the image is out there the artist no longer has any real control. I can see the increase of cheap images creating some issues in the future but perhaps not.

would have to agree with Ronald on this one. I would not want my art to be used as a joke or something. -- Phyllis B.

I feel that if ... I ... put it out there, then ... I ... have to take whatever comes -- whether jokes or profit. ... You cannot force a person to see the same meaning in a painting as you do, ... so why think that you could force a person to USE a painting the same way you would? ... Divorce is just necessary sometimes to move things along.

The hope would be, I think that anyone who purchases your work in whatever format would be doing so because they enjoy it at some level. However from a strictly monetary standpoint I would think that prints would be much more likely to be misused than originals.

@Ron
There are copy paintings of the "Mona Lisa" with a mustache… so what. Anything can be defaced, just a fact of life, deal with it. Or don't sell anything. This is a DUMB thread IMO.

Arthur, Thanks for your intensive wit and intelligence, it added a great deal to the conversation! FYI that was done by Duchamp as a way of creating aesthetic debate.

Ron W.,

In case you did not realize it, Arthur F. did exactly to this discussion thread what you feared might happen to other domains of your expression.

I rest my case.

Robert, you are right! Think I am done with this one and will run off with my tail between my legs!