If Other People Were Paid Like Artists

Too true. SIGH.

I'm pretty sure homeless people make more from hand outs than I do creating art, yet here I sit creating another series... Something's wrong I think. lol

Funny.... Sort of

Being an artist is a frame of mind.

Apply the frame of mind wherever you are, and if you can do so in a paying job, then so much the better.

It costs few dollars to have a frame of mind, and unless you apply it to work that somebody wants or needs, then it pays few dollars.

Art is about how you approach life. We should not complain because our approach does not guarantee a dependable income. We made the choice. We have the obsession. Nobody owes us to keep it up.

What is really distasteful is that there are entitlement programs that PAY for far less intrinsically valuable approaches to life.

Even a musician can busk or play for tips. They don't even have to play anything original or dwell on any mistakes that happen along the way. No sensor spots to be stared at forever and an occasional squeak or missed note will probably be missed by the busy people walking by anyway.

An original painting or sculpture are the most limited works available..There will never be another original like it . It is worth what a person will pay for a one-of-a-kind. Unlike other mediums, there is only one.

Only painters truly understand those words, Monsieur D.

Monsieur, I can so very easily print any one of my images on canvas, once, sign it as a 1/1 and it will forever be a "one of a kind". You close mindedness to other mediums continues to be your perpetual crutch.

I guess artist live by eating the dead horse after they finally stop beating it...

I blame all of the "Made in China" stuff that has flooded the markets in past decades. People have LONG forgotten the value of hard work, passion, and dedication.

John

And I can take my original painting and make a canvas print and sign it 1/1. It is still not the original.

Ally

The influx of art from China has just begun. The only way to protect yourself is to show your original oils, watercolors and gouaches in shows and galleries. Keep them off the internet and away from the click and grab guys. Sell originals like they did from the beginning of time when the only way someone could steal your art was to remove it from the hook and run like he-double L.

I can move my arm once in a particular way, and never, never again will I trace that path in space/time. It is an original moment of eternity that cannot be copied fully in any other medium but my body. There is no original record of that moment. You cannot hang anything on the wall. To experience it, you must witness it in its instant, and if you do not, then you miss it.

You painters who obsess on the physicality of the paint are still one step behind me, ... the dancer, for MY originality in MY flesh-and-blood being in any particular moment trumps your measly grease smearings. And photographers, ... don't even get me started!

Horse meat is equally high in protein, compared to other animal flesh. ... best served hot off the grill with a side of humor.

Horse crap, on the other hand (which I just spouted), ... well that's another story.

Sidewalk chalk art for tips?

I do so love Robert's responses.

Monsieur, not even close. All you'll have is a print of the original if you do that, you even stated it as such which makes your argument null and void. If I print directly to canvas, as in the ink is for the first time being brought into the physical world, it is 100% an original one of a kind.. The only difference between what you and I do is the actual inking/painting process takes place after the work is already done for me. I hope you can see the difference between making a print of an original canvas and actually PRINTING THE IMAGE on canvas.

It's so true!!!! Sadly, history is the best evidence of unfair attitude to the work of the greatest artists, most of whom died in poverty.
I think the reason is that we are living in a material world, in a society ruled by material values. That is why creative people do not enjoy authority, decent income and all other regular advantages accessible to the other careers.

Original???? misinterpreted by just about every artist on this site.

What originals? Where? What do you define as original? Cereal and milk after digestion?

There are no originals. It is a marketing term with a very lost meaning.

Anyone can have a canvas. Many people can paint on a canvas. Many people can
paint really well on a canvas.

My prints are commodities and priced as such. My ideas are mine. I beg borrow and steal. I have my pride.

Dave

David

Meaning of original by "google"

NOUN...something serving as a model or basis for imitations or copies.

ADJECTIVE....created directly and personally by a particular artist; not a copy or imitation.

Without printing out a "copy" of what your camera and/or computer holds, can I please see the orignal art first?

Danl,

When you paint something to make an imitation of that thing or person on your canvas you are no longer original
by your Google definitions. All abstract painting is original, but then puking and watching as the splat on the floor
takes on an original shape is as well. But puke like paints are not original.

Your canvas comes out of a factory.

Your paints are made by machine mixing that fills tubes.

Did you invent women to have your first painting?

Did you invent canvas?

Did you invent paints?

Did you invent galleries?

etc

etc

etc

and if we go back far enough which colors have you invented?

I think those are the beginnings of fair questions concerning what is original and what is not.

Dave

David

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2549351/Its-like-cleanse-body-mind-Vomit-Painter-throws-canvas-create-Jackson-Pollock-style-splatter-paintings-Lady-Gaga-loves.html

Correct, an artist does not need anything to create an original as you will read

http://www.artfido.com/blog/artist-creates-invisible-art-and-collectors-are-paying-millions/

original art

You are way too hung up on a word.

Good luck with your word.

Dave

PS the word 'original' is no longer original. Just some food for thought.

And David, you are too hung up on trying to devalue the word "original". Everybody has their hang ups. This debate about the word "original" here is getting quite old.

I took an image of my original hand painted art into Photoshop, selected a "what if I do this" paint effect button and created a really cool new piece of art. Then, I erased it because I thought I could do it again. It only took me seconds to create that new piece of art, of course, I could do it again, right. Wrong. I could not for the life of me do it again.
I know you were sorta joking, Robert, but it was a wave of the hand that could not be repeated. Besides wishing that I hadn't deleted the first one; this traditional artist learned a great lesson that day. I had poo-pooed computer art until that day; 'til that very moment of realization that what I had done in seconds wasn't repeatable.
What I'm saying is an original was created. The originality was indeed in the way I moved my hand to get that paint effect.
To keep it an original it would have to stay in the computer, or for it to be able to be physically touched, it would have to be a one off print.
To satisfy a world who does not yet fully recognize digital art as unique and original, one may have to take that image one step further and paint or draw a few lines on the print.
Now, if you print another and add paint to it and do another and another would you then be skirting the edge of what art from China looks like? Surely even the assembly line of painters make slightly different strokes from each other.
That first print, by most people's standards, would have to be the one and only one with or without physical paint added to it in order for it to be called an original.

See how I'm over thinking this? Don't do that. That kills inspiration and wastes time.
Just make your beautiful art and enjoy the process, be honest with yourself and learn from your mistakes; which is what Robert was saying in a tongue-in-cheek sort of way, I think.

Here's what "original" means:

1. Preceding all others in time; first: Who played the original Dracula?
2.
a. Not derived from something else; fresh and unusual: an original play, not an adaptation.
b. Showing a marked departure from previous practice; new: a truly original approach.
3. Productive of new things or new ideas; inventive: an original mind.
4. Being the source from which a copy, reproduction, or translation is made.
n.

Monsieur Dani is correct.

Anyway, very good article. Good cartoon too. There are a lot of freebies created by artists on the internet, by the way. Like web-comics. People labor over drawing and writing comics, which they then post online, and they don't get a dime for it. Sometimes they will offer printed collections of their work, and maybe make some money that way, but most don't. And there are a LOT of online comics out there. Free entertainment for the viewing. This, in part, is how artists sabotage themselves and others. :P