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Michael African Visions

8 Years Ago

We Are Spiritual Beings.

Art is a spiritual platform.

We are spiritual beings meant to experience a spiritual existence. The material cover just blinds us and keeps binding us until we break through, only to return again. The perpetual swing between knowing and forgetting.

How can art remind us? How can we use art to remind others? and What is the best use of this knowledge in art?

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Marlene Burns

8 Years Ago

Only those artists who are tuned into your premise will be concerned....
With my Judaic series, each painting is accompanied by a full text, including translations and my interpretation as educator and artist.
http://www.art-marleneburns.com/images-and-texts.html

 

David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

Stained glass is the theater of the Church.

Stain Glass I

 

Robert Kernodle

8 Years Ago

We Are Spiritual Beings.

... ah, another thread flirting with usurping.

So, allow me to flirt thusly: The word, "spiritual", refers to the idea of a spirit - something conceived as non-material, somehow floating in non-existence, yet existing too - quite a contradictory conundrum from the get go, in my way of thinking.

I, therefore, do NOT accept the premise, and propose an alternative for EQUAL consideration:

We Are Material Beings , and our material is glorious.

 

Marlene Burns

8 Years Ago

Robert,
that would be a great topic for a different thread...I think you should start it! ;)

 

Ronald Walker

8 Years Ago

Must say the concept of being "Spiritual Beings" sounds fairly religious to me.

 

Robert Kernodle

8 Years Ago

Marlene B.,

Even without the words, yours is a very good visual series. Nicely done. This shows that the idea of "a spiritual being" obviously can do some artistic good.

 

Drew

8 Years Ago

Surely we are weather we believe or not, science indicates we have a spiritual partition in all of our brains.Photography Prints

 

Robert Kernodle

8 Years Ago

I used to use the word, "spiritual", in what I thought was an innocent way, .. in other words, devoid of any specific religious meaning, ... more attuned to a sense of being aware of a universe that is infinite and eternal beyond any one mortal body. But then I took a close look at the root of the word, "spirit", and decided that claiming such innocence is difficult, because the word necessarily involves believing in spirits, by definition, and I do not.

So, I had to abandon my once innocent outlook on this word, in order to be more grammatically correct in my discussions.

 

Robert Kernodle

8 Years Ago

... a "spiritual partition" ... is that a scientific term?

 

Drew

8 Years Ago

Robert, we all have our methods. ....

 

Marlene Burns

8 Years Ago

Ronald, you might be surprised to realize how many people claim to be spiritual but are not religious and outright deny any religious affiliation...perhaps some will weigh in.

Robert,
the true importance of that series is the accompanying texts...without them, them are just pretty abstracts.

 

Ronald Walker

8 Years Ago

You might be right Marlene but in the belief that the spirit exist at all is the basis of most religions.

 

Marlene Burns

8 Years Ago

and that would work if the thread started out as a religious thread...but it didn't.....
Let's hear from those who consider themselves spiritual but not religious and perhaps, you will understand the difference

 

Ronald Walker

8 Years Ago

Think it did, sounds a lot like Reincarnation to me.

 

Drew

8 Years Ago

Very good source on the subject
http://www.pbs.org/program/closer-to-truth/

BTW, extraordinary imagery, Michael!
Art Prints

 

Marlene Burns

8 Years Ago

Ronald, I'm not going to argue with you cuz i have things I'd rather do..reincarnation is an idea that lots of people believe in without believing in anything else religiously.
I'm gonna bow out and make room for more contributions. Continuing this dialogue will only look like trolling.

 

Robert Kernodle

8 Years Ago

It's interesting that so many people over the centuries can get deeply emotional and excited about our essence being a NO thing (spirit), and yet we cannot get equally excited about our essence being a SOME thing (material).

Why is material not something to be happy about? Why is material strapped with such disgust in some circles of thought? Why is material not worthy of worship to an equal degree as spiritual? Why is a NOthing elevated above a SOMEthing, when THINGS or STUFF is the human sensory feel of what reality is?

This is the sort of attitude that underlies all my art, ... specifically my various FLUIDISM series, which you can find in my galleries here at FAA.

To stay on topic, then, I can say that art reminds us of our MATERIAL reality and the grand nature of this material. I would say that any spiritual reminders that art might convey, then are delusions that humans read into this art.

Perpetually changing material is the foundation of reality (a foundationless foundation, so to speak), and a real sense of reality is in tune to this perpetuity of change in things. Some people believe that an unchanging essence underlies these perpetual material changes (the spirit), but I suggest that the essence itself is perpetually changing too. This is even more magnificent than an immutable nonbeing, again, in my way of thinking. My fluidism art reminds me of this.

 

Robert Kernodle

8 Years Ago

I do not accept the premise of trolls either. (^_^)

What do you call a troll that is always present? ANSWER: A contributor.

Consequently, Marlene B., you could never be a troll here.

 

Very interesting discussion. Thank you too all the contributors thus far.

It's interesting to consider that perhaps spiritual is material but taking material to a level of understading where it's not inanimate but alive. Meaning their is consciousness within the material substance all around us. That to me would be a spiritual understanding of material.

I think words have limitations and that's where we fail to agree.

A special thanks to Robert Kernodle for taking on the role of fighting against the biggest misconception . That there is a difference between material and spiritual. Spiritual and material must be alike. As above so below. The difference is in our level of consciousness.

 

THANK YOU Drew for the comment on my Art. It's quite a sad image.

 

Tony Murray

8 Years Ago

Spiritual = religious. And yes, we are spiritual beings trapped in jars of flesh.


How can art remind us? Art can have a double meaning beyond the aesthetic.



How can we use art to remind others?
We all have a right to speak but not a right to be heard. Reminding others is the frontline of the war against ignorance.




and What is the best use of this knowledge in art?
To make the invisible, visible.

 

Joe Burgess

8 Years Ago

Spiritual experience and physical reality are yin and yang.
One is necessary for the other to exist.

Joe Burgess
jb-imagery.com

 

Chuck Staley

8 Years Ago

@Marlene: Let's hear from those who consider themselves spiritual but not religious and perhaps, you will understand the difference

I will raise my hand very, very high.

Chuck Staley Concept Art

Read "Murder on the Six O'Clock News"

Read "Southern Planter"

 

Joseph C Hinson

8 Years Ago

We are spirits in the material world

 

Jim Taylor

8 Years Ago

The only thing you need to know about being spiritual?!

 

Abbie Shores

8 Years Ago

Unfortunately this is religious

I know that it refers to relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things. but souls are purely religious beliefs.

synonyms: religious, sacred, divine, holy, non-secular, church, churchly, ecclesiastic, devotional

 

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