Throw Pillows Question...

Allergies.... that is the one of the reasons I heard. They are much more expensive too, aren't they?

I am also thinking it is economy of scale possibly. The more you buy of one type of item the lower the price. Two different sources or two different products compromises that. But that is just a guess.

buy just the cover and have them filled yourself. ;)

Marlene, that is a great idea!!! :)

My head sinks in those pillows... :) Too soft!

Lil, you can do that with an artificial fiber fill as well.....that way, you can control how full the final product looks, as opposed to a form insert.

True, Marlene. But, let's say you were someone who wanted to order them as a gift. It would be so much more convenient to order them already filled and go directly to the person. I can understand the price point problem as above but I still think it would be a nice option. It would be more expensive but you're ordering art for your home, not just some manufactured machine piece. I need to think about this a little more.....

:)

Lil

Ricardo, they're not to sleep on, unless you want a power nap on your sofa. And you're right, I need TWO down pillows to sleep on so I can scrunch them up more. ;)

I only sleep with down feather pillows....wash them regularly and run them through the dryer to fluff up!
Lil, yes...for a wider product offering, feathers would be great but the price point would sky rocket.
Which reminds me,. Honey wants to get new foam pillows today...he replaces his every 2 years..I've only had 3 feather pillows my whole life!

There may be some liability problems here.

Your 12 worst allergy mistakes

You're down with down

Love that cozy comforter? It might be trouble, particularly if you've had it for a long time. Feathers can be very allergenic, and become even more so as they age and break down, said Rosenstreich. "I'll have people tell me, 'I've had this feather pillow for 40 years, I brought it from Romania, it's never bothered me before,'" he added. "That's precisely the point."

Synthetic pillow stuffing, like polyester fiberfill, is a better choice for people with allergies. You can make your pillows even less sneeze-inducing by getting dust mite-proof covers for them (and while you're at it, for your mattress). http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/04/09/your-12-worst-allergy-mistakes/

Unless they changed since December, you can choose with an insert or no insert but the price is the same. Seems like it should be a couple bucks less if there is no insert.

That's why I wash mine regularly, Floyd! All it takes is one microscopic pic of what's inside our bed linens....

Liability?
I doubt it.....don't grocery stores sell peanuts, eggs and milk?

Floyd,

I have allergies and I have down comforter 15 years old. I have wondered for a few years now when to replace it.
Might as well spring for a new one next fall.

Dave

"Liability?
I doubt it.....don't grocery stores sell peanuts, eggs and milk?'

Yes they do, and they get sued all the time. Disclaimer was missing, was to small, was not stated right... one I like was, I found on the health food shelf....

The best legal defense in the world is avoid needing one. And yes, that is legal advice my lawyer always hands out for free! lol

I have to agree with Marlene about the allergy and liability issue. If it is disclosed on the materials tag, then caveat emptor. Think about all of the retail stores that sell feather pillows or down comforters. Peanuts are sold but they are labeled as nuts. What is this country supposed to do? Eliminate every single thing that might cause an allergic reaction? What a dull and boring world we would inhabit! :)

You know, Marlene? I have some of the original down pillows I had 10+ years ago and though they're not as full, people still love sleeping on them. The foam ones are awful. lol

Ok, Floyd, you be the one to contact all stores in the U.S. that sell peanuts, eggs, milk and all other products that people can have an allergic reaction to.
Lemme know how that works out.

Oh wait, you say a simple disclaimer would take care of the problem....well then, bingo!
Disclaimer it is....seems like a pretty easy solution....

Yup, I agree. With the proper disclaimer, go for it. But that does not mean that there are not lawsuits filed all the time over these kinds of issues. And all of us can agree on it, but that doesn't mean Sean does. I forgot when said it was part of the reason. I would think it would be of the economy of scale thing. But I really do not know.

I also don't think buying the pillow, basically at retail from FAA, having it shipped to you, you add feathers and turn a round and ship to the buyer is a viable option. But that's your decision if you want to do it.

Marlene, why are you trying to start an argument?

FACT: There are law suites, even with the disclaimers, filed every day.

That MAY or MAY NOT be why Sean does not what to sell feathers. That is his decision. NOT yours. Or are you speaking for Sean now?

I never said it is the reason. I said that someone else stated that is the reason.

Pillows in the UK are things you sleep on. What we sell here are cushions. :)

Ok there really is NO need for an argument every time someone asks a question.

I agree totally, especially with that last line Abbie!

Abbie, is the allergy issue any part of the why feathers are not offered? Just curious.

No wonder my Grandmother always called pillows "cushions". lol Abbie, what's your take on the feathers question. Honestly, I don't think allergies are the issue (though some are right because anyone can sue over anything unfortunately). Maybe it is the price but when I see what people spend on just one of my prints and then know they have to frame it, if pillows are also art (and they are at this site - it's not just a site with a jumble of retail products like t-shirts, mugs, etc), I would think people might like the option of purchasing a feather fill. lol

:)

Lil

" it's not just a site with a jumble of retail products like t-shirts, '

Lil.... ahhhh.... you do know that T-shirts are on their way to FAA right?

There is a difference between pillows and cushions as Isabella has said - throw cushions are decorative and don't need feathers, totally unnecessary and a waste of money to my mind
Now pillows are a whole different ball game!

how far can you you throw them ...should there be a disclaimer on throwing them in the house or at what age you should be before beginning to throw them ! .

Depends on what mood you are in LOL

There is a world of difference between starting an argument and responding to a stubborn person. ;)

No age limit Tom - when you feel it, do it, in or out, just don't break anything!

Yikes! I hate the thought of selling a bunch of retail products here. I feel like there's a difference between this site and others which I won't mention. I wish it would stay strictly a fine art site.

" I wish it would stay strictly a fine art site."

That ship sailed some time back.

Best to embrace the idea of products and hope the quality is sufficient to lead to repeat customers.

"I wish it would stay strictly a fine art site."

Lil,

If participation in selling those items is not desired, just leave the space for a price blank for those particular items.

Greg, you are absolutely correct!! :) Debbie, tell my husband throw cushions are only decorative while he's taking that "power nap" on them. lol

Lil

I know there's some controversy about how the down is obtained and a lot of places have stopped selling down/feather filled products.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/23/down-comforters-animal-cruelty_n_1224517.html

Liv, when I order pillows, I order without the insert. I prefer to use a "down synthetic" to get the fuller look. This is a very nice pillow insert and most people can't tell the difference between it and real down. When my daughter was three, I ordered her down everything and 3 months later I had to send it all back per the doctor. She started having allergies. Since then we only use down synthetic. The price is cheaper, it is just as nice and you don't have to deal with disclaimers. At my festivals and markets, the women always pick up the pillows and squeeze them. I started putting them in 18 x 24" clear bags and tie a nice bow around it for a pretty display -- it keeps the pillows clean that are on display and the pillow is ready to be given as a gift.

I order my pillows inserts wholesale (14 to a box). I won't say where as I don't think I should promote another company. It is probably the same place Sean gets his inserts wholesale. The lady at the factory told me that you should always go up 2 inches on an insert for any pillow cover 18 x 18" and over so I order 20 x 20 inserts and the pillows are lush and look really nice . I have had a couple of high end designers comment on them favorably and put in their shop. If FAA chooses to keep the same insert, that is fine but just order a bigger insert because the insert is too small that you provide.

Liv I am the one that posted the "Pillow Fiasco" thread re: my disappointment in the fabric change. I won't revisit it but you can search it out. I am still holding out hope for another fabric option. I was told 2 or 3 months ago by FAA customer support that FAA would be offering an outdoor fabric in the future. In fact they upgraded my order to an outdoor fabric to try it even though it was not being shown on the site. Maybe someone could pipe in and clarify if this may be in the offering soon or give us an update.