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9 Years Ago
Okay, this discussion is a branching off from the alien thread. It seemed to need a thread of its own, so here it is.
The subject is time. What do you as artists think time is? Is it an entity? Is it merely a conceptual convenience? Is there such a thing, REALLY, as past, present and future? Is time travel a flawed fantasy?
I'll get into my own beliefs later, but I'll give others a chance to chime in first, if you are interested.
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Past, present and future were created by man to keep us from getting confused.
It's all happening at once.
9 Years Ago
It's all happening at once.
Succinctly said. Yes.
Our concept of time relies intimately on a limited lifespan. Otherwise, we would all realize that everything is ALWAYS in the now, and the now just changes its patterns eternally.
9 Years Ago
Time is a human invention based on the rotation of our planet around the sun. That measurement means nothing away from this planet.
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Humans are obssessed with time LOL…but yes I agree with the above and that there is really not past, or future but just present.
9 Years Ago
I have been fascinated by time since Rod Serling stated offering up his ideas in the late '50s.
Time, IMO, is subjective..how else can you explain the sense of time flying or time dragging on?
At this point in my life, it is flying...every other day is Friday.
I do believe that the events that happened or will happen in what we call a 'past' or 'future' are very real.....as real as what is happening 'today.'
9 Years Ago
Time is a universe of alternate realities where existence evolves from ounces to grams and is plagued by unreal plagues in tea seasoned with the very essence of time itself.
Time is universally measured by how soon your sneakers wear out which is why time is actually non-existent because the wear is dependent upon and related to the materials that form the universe. In other words, to put it simply: time is star dust is kellogg's special K cereal, but only if it is not quaker oatmeal.
9 Years Ago
Great subject, how long have you got? LOL
Extract from my book The Journey written in 2001:
Y-Shan entered
the wilderness:
If time
does not exist
– then
how can it be wasted?
If you need
more time
why not create it?
If you are
short of time
then why not stretch it?
If you
have lost time
why not
set out to find it?
If you have gone over time
why not
work backwards?
If time
is catching you up
why not run faster?
Time,
a non-corporeal
‘being’
we have gifted
with life
and all the
accompanying
attributes.
For if
time did not exist
– would we?
Dorothy Berry-Lound
2001
9 Years Ago
Absolutely, Sydne!
My wise grandmother assured me that time would start flying as I aged....oh man, was she right!
My only solutionis to hit the pause button these days and really savor a moment here and there.....
9 Years Ago
Dan C.,
I think that your assessment might be poetically profound, but I haven't quite figured it out yet. (^__^)
Regarding the three divisions of human time conception (past, present, future), ... these collectively are a device of the mind, I believe. Hence, there cannot ever be any such thing as "time travel", because there is NOT a place to go back to, and there is NOT a place to go forward to. As someone pointed out in another thread, time is NOT a where, NOT a place, and I would add, it is a state of mortal awareness, refined by precision instruments that keep track of our perceptions of relatively repetitive motions.
Time is awareness of changes in configurations of substance that ALWAYS exists in some form or another - the stardust and even the more primitive residue from which all creation precipitates eternally.
This is why I value MY life in MY time - it's the only one that will ever be EXACTLY like this one. Some future configuration might come close, but it will NEVER duplicate what IS NOW. There is ONLY one now, and that now forever changes.
Enjoy the now that is now.
9 Years Ago
One Year
Playing the Percentages
my first year, when that's what it was, one year, was like forever, an eternity… that introductory year was my 100% year...
And then came my second year and split the first one half in two that year, that was a divisive year… my 50% year...
Suddenly i was ten and my year was shortened, that year was one year of ten of my formative years, my 10% year...
So fifty came along, years that is, and blurred the 365s that made my year seem shorter still of my growing years, my 2% year...
i am here now at seventy five and my year whizzes by or so it seems, this year like a dream, this year, this speeding year my 1 and one third % year...
And what's to happen when one hundred is reached... a sliver in relative time that is my year, my precious year, my 1% year...
9 Years Ago
No as we get older does not get faster….but we come to realize we are closer to death. So suddenly we are looking at remaning time we have. If you remove time expectation from your life then is easier to deal with that.
9 Years Ago
Trying to control time is an illusion as well.
We don't control anything....
We say we are "out of control" when things aren't going our way.
We say we are "in control" when everything is going our way.
Stuff is just happening and it's rather ego-centered to think it's happening just for us.
Diana, I don't really think about my death any more than I think about my birth...I have no details of either so there's not much to ponder.
9 Years Ago
Time is the fourth dimension that decribes motion. It follows height, width and depth. It is relative to the state of it's mentioned dimension and is effected by other dimensions such as temperature and median viscosity .
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Since time is as much a conception as it is a precision measurement, what happens is that this precision measurement actually inflates as we age.
The time-measuring instruments still measure the same number of hours, but the perceptual apparatus measures something quite different.
It is NOT time, then, that we are experiencing. Rather, it is the relative rate of our mortal decline. What Diana D. M. said, essentially.
Alas, we cannot remove this experience from our lives.
Ultimately, we measure time by death, and how we think of death is what might improve our view of passing time.
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there is only now in the now you may need to keep track of time for function but otherwise it is of no importance....
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Your last line said it all for me, Robert....If you perceive death as just an event in the circle of life, then there is no reason to sense time seeding up out of dread or fear.
BTW, you should read "Einstein's Dream" by Allan Lightman.....a marvelous little gem that shares a theory on time (i.e. " In this particular world, time has no memory..")
9 Years Ago
Take it from someone in his 80th year.
Time DOES get faster and faster the older one gets.
The Day:.."I just made that coffee"
The Week.."I just saw that program"
The Month:.."I just paid that damn bill"
But, Thank God for Winter.....It keeps going on and on ......AND ON.
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9 Years Ago
I think time is an illusion.
If anything, I believe in the "now" ...opps it's gone, and it's gone again, and again... ;)
9 Years Ago
Bill, there are no flames on an object such as a comet or asteroid in space. So you image only says, "This can't happen"!
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If a comet contains and oxidizer and a fuel such as frozen methane, why would in not flame?
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Drew, are you aware of any objects in astronomy that, outside of fusion reactions, are "burning" in space? Where would the friction come from?
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Tony, are you aware of how large the universe is.
Fact is rockets us oxiders and fuel and flames occur in the vacuum of space.
I'm not aware of alot of things but I am aware of hyper-criticism.
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So I have a problem with Bill's image and you think this is hyper-criticism? His image is supposed to be of some unforeseen event that he purports will happen. That door was already opened when I walked in.
And yes, if you take a man made object like a rocket and combine the fuels and ignite it it will burn. I was referring to natural heavenly bodies.
9 Years Ago
Time is solely a unit of measure just like width height, depth, volume, weight, distance, temperature, pressure, etc..etc...
by itself it has no meaning...
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Time has meaning when placed only in context with space, dispacement and density of mass.
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but the word time it self has not meaning.. you can say something will take 10 times to finish. Same as saying something is 10 heights tall.
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Hmmmmmm
I get the irony of that last sentence.. very good ;O)
well by definition words do have meaning. But not all words can stand alone.. they need to be used in in conjunction with others to gain meaning. But of course not just any words and not in just any order. There are rules to follow.
But I still think time simply a way to measure and needs an agreed upon unit of measure to be meaningful. Although you can say "boy that took a long time to do!" there really no reference to "how" long it really took. The adverb "long" is subjective. But "that signal took 3.54 nanoseconds to arrive". is very specific, but very few can actually grasp just how much "time" that took.
And of course it has already been mentioned that our units of time is tied to our solar system as would any of our measurements except those related to the speed of light. [as far as we know]
Now.. if time travel is possible.. where are all the time tourists from the future? They should be here by now.
9 Years Ago
Bacteria, viruses and lower forms of life can be frozen for an unknown amount of time and be reanimated. There is your time trailers from the past. In turn, said living creatures can be frozen now and reanimated at Some point in the future.there is your time trailers to the future.
9 Years Ago
Drew, when the past becomes the present and one cannot return to the past ,is that not a contradiction? I'm not a scientist so I'm not sure but just asking!
9 Years Ago
Everytime I read the title of this thread this song pops into my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fTKhZIH2oU