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Lesley DeHaan

9 Years Ago

Facebook Owns Some Of My Photos...

My photos are quite popular with the kids. They get snatched from my various sites then plastered all over social media. I know this 'cause I love the bands I shoot so I hang out in the same place the kids do and see them.
Fine. Whatever.
But yesterday, I found two of my photos on FaceBook. Two of my more favourite and fan loved pictures.
So. Since I didn't upload it - I didn't give it to FaceBook willingly - do I still lose all my rights to that photo to FB? I seriously can't tell, but I assume I do...

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April Moen

9 Years Ago

Why would you assume that? No one can take the rights for work you created unless you sign it away to them. Did you sign anything with Facebook?

 

Joseph C Hinson

9 Years Ago

If I understand you right, kids are posting them to Facebook; Facebook is just the platform where they get posted. So FB doesn't own them and isn't responsible for the postings of the kids.

 

Ericamaxine Price

9 Years Ago

FAA automatically sends your pictures to FB if you selected that option where you edit.

It doesn't mean they own in, they're advertising for you. It's a great service. (if that happened)

 

Ericamaxine Price

9 Years Ago

Do you have your share button on FB set for all people (public) can see my photos then you authorized it so don't panic.

You can change it.

 

Lesley DeHaan

9 Years Ago

"you grant Facebook “a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any [IP] content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (“IP License”)."
But who's the "You"? The person uploading? They didn't have the right to put it up, but I don't think FB's gonna split hairs if they want to use the image.
I haven't uploaded to FB since they implemented these rights - only links to other sites showing my work to protect myself - but I can't protect myself from this sort of thing.

 

Roseann Caputo

9 Years Ago

Yes, the person uploading. If it wasn't you, then you didn't grant them anything.

Most artists don't know that information is in their TOS. Another reason I dumped that place.

 

Barry Lamont

9 Years Ago

yes this is something lot's of people don't realize about FB... IF you post a pic there...they own it!!! But you didn't post it Lesley... so they don't own yours!

edit: phffff.. this comment was posted in response to Lesley's last post.... NOT that.

 

Dan Turner

9 Years Ago

"IF you post a pic there...they own it!!!"

No they don't. At best, they have a license to use your low-res photo on their network. You still maintain copyright.


Dan Turner
Dan Turner's Seven Keys to Selling Art Online

 

Joseph C Hinson

9 Years Ago

Dan is right. And how are they using it? I wasn't clear on if it was some random people sharing the OP's photos or if Facebook was in some way using them for advertising.

 

Kathy K McClellan

9 Years Ago

I don't let FAA post directly to Facebook when I upload photographs. Instead I post a small jpg with a watermark on it and tell my "fans" to click on the link I post to see a full size picture without the watermarks. The link is one I've copied and pasted from my artist website for that picture's image/product page.

The only thing Facebook now has a license to use is the small watermarked image. I understand from other discussions that watermarks can be removed but who wants to go to that trouble on a small photograph? BTW if it makes a difference my watermark is a Tile style so it basically covers (opaquely) the entire photo.

 

Bradford Martin

9 Years Ago

If you contact FB they will take it down.
https://www.facebook.com/help/400287850027717/

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

you don't give up rights, send the take down notice. but you'll always find your images stolen every place. it's a good way to know you'll sell them as well. people like it, they take it, they assume that:

A. it's ok
B. you'll never find out.

they don't know about C - you can sue them if you wanted too. but you would have to prove damages.

---Mike Savad

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

and they do take it down fast. i had one guy argue that it was really his image... had to straighten him out.

---Mike Savad

 

Lesley DeHaan

9 Years Ago

@Joseph Fans of my photos are taking them from my other sites and sharing them on FB where...
"transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license.” means that Facebook can license my content to others for free without obtaining any other approval.
Licensing by uploading may not have me losing copyright, but it makes me lose control over who can use my works for profit or whatever they want it for.

 

April Moen

9 Years Ago

Lesley, you run that risk anytime you upload your work to the internet. That's just the reality of selling your work online. My advice, don't upload anything large or high res to social media. Protect your assets.

 

Lesley DeHaan

9 Years Ago

I don't request take downs generally, @Mike, 'cause what's done is done. It's on the FB servers, it's theirs. Taking it down won't change that...
I do often reach out to the poster to request a credit - something the do agree to for the most part - which mitigates some of the damage.

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

facebook notes the user as well and warns them not to take things. if they do it often enough i think their account is closed as a punishment. many just don't know and this is the way to teach them. i simply gave up looking. it's a full time job. or yeah i get the credit for the piece if i can.

---Mike Savad

 

Frank J Casella

9 Years Ago

You have the right response, Lesley, if you ask FB ( or Tumblr or any other platform ) to take it down that doesn't include the trail of all the shares, etc.

How your posting to FB with links is the right way too, I think. I'm doing the same thing. The only platform that really is serious about Copyrights and attribution that I know if is Flickr.

 

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