Painting With Waterbased Oils

Regarding the fast drying of Acrylics - Sennelier for example makes a "Fluid Retarder", which should solve your problem. There's a similar product from Schmincke, too (no. 50556 = "Acryl Retarder").

Thank you , Frank...

I use acrylic retarders too - very useful. I also put unused paint (on pallete) into the refrigerator when taking a painting break during hot weather, then re-use cold when needed.

I paint with oils and also paint with acrylics. Tried a few of the water mixable oils by Winsor and Newton about three years ago. It was very easy to paint and convenient to paint with them. The paint flowed on the canvas and the colors are as good as regular oil paints. I had a problem with Phthalo Green cracking on one painting, maybe too much water added to this color. The other paintings are fine but I am afraid to use the paint because of the cracking of the green. Perhaps further research with these paints would yield better results.

I've tried WN and another brand I don't recall and didn't like either one, they were too stiff. I've heard good things about Cobra Oils though, many artists say they behave the most like traditional oils.

I use WN water mixable oils and also other brands. I don't use water to thin them, they have linseed oil and other mediums that you can use designed specifically for these oils.
I only use water to rinse the brushes when changing colors and clean up with water and brush soap.

I also paint with acrylics and use the retarder and gel mediums.

@ Gay Pautz and David King pretty much explained atleast my experiences with water base paints.

I tried a few of the water mixable oils by Winsor and Newton long time ago, maybe they were the first generation of the paint? I didn't like them, made my paintings look muddy. I had to repaint all the canvases... hope they are improved, but haven't tried since then...

Thank you for your posts and advice......Xueling,Vjay,Gay,David,Annette,Karen,Frank.

I've done a little research off-site, at YouTube.......and some tutors have found these to be 'just like oils' and the videos explain very well the way to master them.
Also, they do not much recomment W&N either, much, but rather a product from Japan that they admire greatly - trouble being: I can't get that here..."Aqua?"/similar name
product.

Appreciate your thoughts. Think I will try them, for health and mental stability sake......too hot here for acrylics, sigh.

You are welcome. I would love to use the waterbased oil someday soon if they really are the same, or getting better. I think it will be good for our environment and our health too :) :).

Deja Vu here Vivian, talking to Maria on the phone and was asking here about water based oils and said there was a post a year or so ago about them and thought it may have been a post of yours, anyhow she went on to say that she had just posted a new poem in the discussions so went and had a look and then to my amazement seen your post on water based oils.

Hope you are well, I believe Australia has been having extremely high temperatures lately and no doubt this is having repercussions with the acrylics.

Hello Michael, glad to hear from you, and glad for news of Maria..........and I love the magic that brings us all together somehow. I so remember your investigation of these paints, and doing painting......but , I turned up here, exactly because.....we have had 100/degrees in the shade, and I lost it ! The paint dried on the brush even before going to the easel,lol.
I trust all your unique art is continuing to give you immense inspiration.
Thanks for your kind thoughts, yes, I am well........this has been a tumultuous year for me, and I will survive.......major choices........major consequences......all personal,deep.
This has been a week of deja vu for me too, in so many ways.......it is because the world is in turmoil.....I am sure.
Best regards, till next time..........Vivian.

A quick follow-up..................I persevered with acrylics to no avail........to do a portrait (the commission) I need a lot of time and wet paint because with the juicy oils I
employ a lot of wrist to get texture and 'feeling' into the work..(see: My Garden Blue)....it is so much more expressive when one can see the 'artist's hand' in the process...because it is a
portrait, but also, should be identifiable (sp) to the artist's style............sad to say, I declined to finish it in acrylic and time ran out to start again in oils....a lesson
learned.

Stay true to yourself, always.