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David King

8 Years Ago

Shadows Appear Darker On Faa

I've only just started getting into photography but I noticed on the latest landscape photos I uploaded the shadow areas were very dark. I thought it was my original file so I went to work on it but my original file doesn't look nearly so dark. This one for example;

art photograph pond vintage house water reflection David King Studio

The shadow in the tree, middle-right appears almost black, the file on my computer looks properly exposed. I don't see this issue with my paintings. What gives? Any ideas?

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David King

8 Years Ago

Actually, it might be a monitor issue. I thought it was like this on my home computer but now I'm not sure. How does it look on your monitor, is the shadow area of the tree really dark?

 

Jennifer White

8 Years Ago

I think it depends on what program you are viewing it at. I've noticed that when working in Lightroom, I'll get the photo just right, and then when I open it in another program such as Windows Photo Viewer, it looks darker. I've had to learn to trust lightroom over the basic photo viewing programs. When printed, my photos look more like the LR version. Could also be your monitor. The shadow area does look dark but not black on my computer.

 

David Randall

8 Years Ago

Monitors are all over the place with color. It is better than it used to be but there is a long way to go. I'm pretty old school but despite the tremendous limitations of looking at art on monitors the market is going there quickly obviously. I can only say, don't try to match the color you are seeing with any real life object it just isn't going to go well.

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

i see the subtle greens in the tree. it really depends how bright your screen is. what the color profile is, if its calibrated, what colorspace photoshop is using - like is it aRGB? sRGB will show it differently.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

 

David King

8 Years Ago

I only use Corel Paint Shop Pro to edit my photos and scans.

I'm still curious to know how it looks on other people's monitors. I can't calibrate my monitor to FAA's printers can I? It all seems to be a bit of a crap shoot.

I turned the brightness all the way up on my monitor here and the shadow still looks mostly black.

 

Rich Franco

8 Years Ago

David,

I can see detail in the dark areas under the tree/shrub on my monitor.

Try these for your monitor. The Gray card should be a very neutral gray, in the center, which is the actual Kodak Gray card, 18% gray and used as a tool. the second link, is to test your monitor and see if your's is dark or too bright,

Photography Prints

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/monitor-calibration.htm

Rich

 

David King

8 Years Ago

Thanks Rich. That prompted me to look for more advanced tuning options in the system and found some kind of monitor calibration gizmo. Turns out it was a gamma thing, I adjusted that up and now it looks a lot better.

 

Rich Franco

8 Years Ago

David,

Glad to help! How about the color?

Rich

 

David King

8 Years Ago

There doesn't appear to be any color issues with this monitor.

 

Rich Franco

8 Years Ago

Then you're done! saved a few bucks too!

Rich

 

David Randall

8 Years Ago

All of that may be well and good for your viewing at home but you are right unless a screen is calibrated to the printers it's still a crap shoot for what your prints will be. It's just the nature of the beast.

 

Rich Franco

8 Years Ago

David R,

I agree, if you are printing your own images, then that control is important, but what gets sent to FAA's printer and how they print it, will also have slight variations, just the nature of the beast. For David K's purposes, his monitor is fine. Remember, buyers looking on their devices, phones,tablets,laptops and desktops, ALL have different "color" and most if not all, won't be accurate.

Anyone can take an image and go to a Sam's or Costco,etc. and get a "test" print and then see how it comes out, relative to their monitor. I have and IF I remember to turn off the "Auto Enhance" feature, the prints are perfect! Sam's larger prints, 11x14 are ALL done on the Epson system and are very accurate,so a test print that size will be fine to judge your monitor, for most people here,

Rich


 

David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

I turned the brightness all the way up on my monitor here and the shadow still looks mostly black.

DK,

I dont know what you know about calibrating a monitor so excuse me if I reiterate things.

You need to set your monitor at 80 cd/mm^2. There is a big difference between projected light, the monitor, and reflected
like, a print. 80 cd/mm^2 is purposely not bright.

Are you using an excellent graphics monitor. Dell has the best one for the money available as of last year. If not it is time to invest in one.
You could be using a real clunker if not. I do not know. 24" is large enough to be a very good monitor. they commonly come in 24" and 27".

The Dell will tell you factory set. Nonsense that will never count. But the Dell also has preset file for calibrating it. That is a nice one step feature the Asus
graphics monitor does not have. The Dell is slightly better quality as well.

oh and the bulbs I use in the room are day light bulbs. Not cool white.....etc......

Dave

 

Mark Blauhoefer

8 Years Ago

It could be your monitor and a little pixel binning as it's reduced - unfortunately it's binned the brighter pixels and left the darker ones.

Ir a contrast side effect of the smaller file creation issue?

 

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