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Judy Kay

8 Years Ago

Photo Color Save Options

A photo program I sometimes work with has different save options,,, 1. SRGb IEC 61966 2,1 2. pro photo rgb 3. adobe rgb 1998 4. apple rgb or 5. wide gamut rgb and the default (?) not sure what that is, I use apples editing software and have a IMAC but I have been saving in the programs default, Is there a preferred optionI should use that would work better with faa uploads,?
Also when I view images on my 55 " tv the colors look SO different than they look on my other devices, Is that normal,,,and if not is that an issue with a setting in my tv or with my save" options?!

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Lutz Baar

8 Years Ago

SRGB is a good standard choice.

Your TV has different ways (prefixes) to display images and broadcastings. Like movie, photo, game, default etc
Play around and see what matches your iMac display best.

 

Xueling Zou

8 Years Ago

I found that most TV settings with very vibrant colors, natural. So I've adjusted colors on my TV screen. Also it depends on what type of TV.

 

Judy Kay

8 Years Ago

Thanks Xu and Lutz! A friend of mine was playing around with my tv and changed the color option in the settings to the one he has on his tv. We both have samsung 55 lcd .. He is out of town now and I was not sure how he accessed the settings on the tv, As I recall there were only two or three choices,,,natural being one of them I believe) As far as which option is best ,,,it seems to get complicated (?) when you shoot with a sony then edit in apple and then go on to adding filters..I use the topaz impression often) I just was not sure how all of that translated with respect to FAA's print color matrix output and how it would impact the final result.
I was concerned also that they look great on my IMAC and other devices but looked SO harsh in many cases on the large format tv,I wondered if that harsh unnatural result would be the result also if the images were printed in the largest size!? When I am adding filters I usually like the more colorful choices, I also wondered if while it may look great when viewing it within
the program itself or on the mac,,,if I should tone down the effects to offset the possible oversaturated reality!

 

Imagery by Charly

8 Years Ago

I find Judy that unless a devise is calibrated it will show images differently and usually nothing to do with how your save images. I use Lightroom with Pro Photo in my settings. When I save images to put up on the net or send the to printmakers, I use sRGB. As to your TV, most from the factory are very bright with saturated colors. I have a 60" Samsung Plasma which has very rich blacks, but I lessened the brightness quite a bit and adjusted the color settings. Under the menu button you should have one that says Picture and should find the settings to adjust there. If not you may have a Color settings.

My menu is a bit tricky in that you need to use multiple arrows to bop around everything that is available in the menu. I do have separated RBG settings along with contrast, tone, and something else. Not in front of it at the moment to give details sorry. I know that my Spyder 4 Elite also will calibrate my TV, the same as my iMac; though I like the rich blacks and just eyeballed my colors near the same as my iMac. Also is your TV ran through your iMac and what settings do you use? I have the display settings for my iMac set to the calibrated Spyder 4 Elite ICC profile and set my TV the same (to mirror). I watch everything off the net thru my iMac onto my 60" Plasma via HDMI with a 7.1 surround sound system. ;)

~ Charly

 

Judy Kay

8 Years Ago

Charly, helpful info I have no idea how my IMAC is calibrated, It is whatever the factory default settings are,,I do know that the "Mac Photos APP ''that apparently is someone similar to the Apple Aperture software is setup to process raw photos that I upload from the sony a6000. That is as far as it goes for me calibration wise,
Not sure what you mean is tv ran through iMac, I doubt it,,,though,I use ATT DSL wireless routers etc which may do that by default (?)
,I never saw any settings in the tv that allows for profile adjustments, Just natural /dynamic or something to that effect, Basically noting is really calibrated with anything else that I have done anyway, All of the settings in the mac/ my camera and tv are whatever the factory defaults are, I had no idea it really mattered,,,I have always been under the apparent allusion that" what you see is what you get", Guess not huh! or...wishful thinking,

PS ,,,I have 5,1 surround too,,,not sure that I am getting the most of this now since I switched from comcast cable to DSL through ATT ,I get better sound when I play a movie through the blue ray than when I watch regular hi def channels through ATT I have 5 speakers,,,2 rear speakers (rock solid) 3 other speakers (b&w) and a subwoofer, I have a yamaha receiver, To me good sound is more important than a good picture, I may bite the bullet" and have best buy's home theatre team come over and evaluate and make recommendations, I had a professional installer setup initially but technology has changed and I am not sure I am "up to speed" with the advances in home theatre technology, My Samsung is not a Smart TV got it before that technology was available but I have apple tv which i suppose is similar, My nephew got the 70 " 5k Atmost System and has 7 speakers, I was not that impressed with the sound to upgrade to that platform,

 

Imagery by Charly

8 Years Ago


Judy if you don't have a stand alone calibrations system, then your iMac is on the factory iMac ICC profile. On the back of your iMac (closest to the stand) you have first is the ethernet cable (if you're not using WiFi), then a smaller FireWire connection. You need to buy the adapter to connect an HDMI cable from that to the TV, so my guess is you don't have your TV connected to your iMac.

Your TV doesn't have ICC profiles per se to choose from. You need to manually change the R, B, G settings and the Contrast, etc. If memory serves, there are a lot of sub-level menus. Best suggestion I can make is go to Samsung.com and look up your tv. There you will find an owners manual that will walk you through every bit of the menu. Read it over and you'll know what I'm speaking to. Before I set my TV up, I could work the remote with my eyes closed! hehe

I concur sound is more important that the picture quality. :) I spent over $1500 (think it was) for my 7.1 surround system. When it comes to a receiver/speakers, you get what you pay for. Now mine isn't the best out there, but it will shake the walls when T-Rex is entering the frame in Jurassic Park 1 HD DVD.

~ Charly

 

Judy Kay

8 Years Ago

My tv is downstairs and the mac up,,,Ill do as you suggested re the settings and manual for my model and choose accordingly, In the meantime I just got a response from the topaz labs, They are recommending pro photo rgb which i guess I will use in future, Here is a link to the article and their recommendations in case anyone out there is interested,
http://cameradojo.com/adobe-rgb-vs-srgb-vs-prophoto-rgb/

Thanks again!!

 

Robert VanDerWal

8 Years Ago

As you know Judy FAA only accepts the sRGB color format. All the others you mentioned except the"default" are RGB variations. You said you're using the default and therefore I would suspect it must be sRGB or you would not be able to upload to FAA. Charly is correct in suggesting the use of a calibration device such as the Spyder products. It is very important to know "What You See Is What You Get" when post processing your images because that's how your prints will look like. Another consideration when calibrating your monitor with a calibration device is that the lighting in the room is consistent to when you calibrated you monitor. Unfortunately people viewing our work on their computer monitors may not be adjusted well and so we have no control as to what out work looks like to them. I was in the television business for many years and used waveform monitors and vecterscopes to set-up monitor used in post-production based on calibrated color bars supplied by engineering. Hope this helps.

 

Judy Kay

8 Years Ago

Thanks Robert, good to know, The default I found out is srgb,,thankfully, I will definitely look in to the spyder products, Thanks!

 

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