Buyer Pins

To Sean and Abbie,

Can we avoid any fiasco like with Wanelo.

Also Shopify and/or Demandware might be cheaper for Sean/Pixels than what he now has with direct workings with Pinterest.

Dave

What a great way to sell.

Sean,

but there should not be a few select artists we all feed back into......like with Wanelo's top contributors.

I could give a rat's blank who is a top contributor on shopify. They should not be in everyone's INCLUDING FAA/PIXEL'S
way all the time.

Dave

Cheapest plan is $14.95 a month for 25 products. Not sure how it would integrate with FAA. The dream would be to make all of our pins buyable. That would take a big corporate account. Also it would probably be non-customizable products like a standard sized canvas.

Ed,

are you seeing that on Shopify?

The thing is larger accounts are not paying that.

Some years ago I saw that mastercard visa charge small website owners $35 for every return/credit. Something along those lines.

mastercard visa would never charge Walmart much.......certainly not $35.

I think it was a matter of if you sold something online from a small business site, you could be wiped out very quickly
if your product was a failure and returned en mas.

Dave

Yeah that's Shopify. (spotify is for music)
....
I'm on FAA because I don't want to handle fulfillment. Currently opening a Shopify account would mean becoming a middle man in the check out process.

It would have to be integrated into the FAA system. If FAA could advertise that the artistswebsites came with Buyer Pins on Pinterest that would be a fantastic marketing point.

Ed,

totally agree, Sean might not only be able to swing that, but currently Pinterest charges him, the charges might be lessened.

The prices you quoted were to discourage what Shopify considers a waste of its time. The entirety of FAA/Pixels would not be a waste of time.

Dave

Big Bonus for Sean/Pixels with merchandise....It could be integrated into Pixels to promote Pixels in the web rankings etc.....instead of FAA or
the AW.......after all Sean would be paying for it......big massive boost for Pixels overnight Depending on how the programming is done.

ok so... where does the money come from? if people buy it through pinterest, where does the order go, where does the money go, and how does it work when people take the image and not provide a proper link. it seems like it would be a nightmare to me. i don't use either those two places they mention. and i'm wondering whats in it for them?

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Mike,

The two places are middlemen that do not appear. They are charging behind the scenes. So Pinterest in partnership charges bigger
accounts less, while charging the little guys more.

All we get are Buy buttons on our pages linked back hopefully to the AW's but if Sean wants to power up Pixels he could make a rerouting of all pages
through Pixels for fulfillment. We might be getting the best of both worlds, our AW's as fronts, but Pixels as fulfillment.

No clients would go to Shopify. The billing would go through shopify, like a mastercard clearing house. Like a Paypal service.

Pixel's size would bring down costs for Sean. Possibly.

Dave

I read that pinterest is not charging the sellers or taking a cut from the sale. Instead sellers can promote their pins - pretty exiting.

looking at shopify and those high monthly prices, maybe my eyes are just tired, but i don't see how i get paid from them.

and i also wonder how it works for those that wanted to link my images to their store, which would be on sale too - they probably would want a cut as well, and then it would become messy when its a pin of a pin.

still though pinterest couldn't be doing it all for free, there must be something in it for them.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Juergen,

Pinterest is creating a middleman. The middleman charges the small business owners even more as Mike is saying.

Pixels is a larger account that would pay less.

Mike think of Shopify as entering into a bizness like Mastercard Visa or Paypal. Just a middleman.

Dave

Addition: Mike The platform I think changed hands and names, but Mastercard and Visa and I think Amex work
off of an larger platform for the whole financial mix. I think the larger platform is half or more of the market. Mastercard
is a clearinghouse on a larger set or a larger platform(s). I have not read up on this stuff in 15 years. So I can not spell it out
well, but when you go to shop you buy what you want using your mastercard and stuff goes into the proper accounts and you
leave with the goods....or the goods are shipped when online. You dont see much of anything but the merchant.

SHOPIFY not Spotify!! So confused right now.

thanks Joy, I am tired and not reading that well. I need my readers. Old man alert.

Dave

This is really exciting. I just hope it is easier than the recent thread where we learned how to post a clickable image of a totebag!

Nancy the ball is in Sean's court,

If he does not use the competition Pinterest is setting up with the two middlemen shopify and demandware......
...he will probably be paying higher rates directly to Pinterest.

Or in other words it would be business as usual.


Dave

I wrote to Pinterest a few days ago about this. They said FAA would not be considered at this time. So don't know if Sean contacting them would make a difference. Sure would be nice if they could get it set up.

Looks like they are partnering with sites that offer shopping cart plans. Pinterest has to make money so they probably have deals with Shopify etc to get a cut.

I thought in the past Pinterest was going to try to make money on affiliate accounts. This must be their new idea.

I changed to the [free] business account with them recently, and am considering reverting back to the basic one. I've rec'd a few emails now relating to buying pins, etc, etc., and am basically tired of receiving them. Yes, I realize it's somewhat of a "selling" opportunity method, but once I've been presented a program, I don't want continual emails.