Social Media

What should I tweet, what should I post, how should I link?

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Understanding Twitter and the power of “re-tweet”

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Roberta, hope these help you a little bit. Enjoy your day.

you should post a few a day, don't push it hard. and leaving one all day, not many will see. the picture itself should be avoided, there would be little reason to click on it if they can see it there. many assume its an image you found and you'll run out of hashtags. work on one site at a time.

pinterest is kind of a waste of time
stumble is a total waste of time

twitter and facebook you need to have followers to see your posts. your limited to 5000 friends on facebook, and 2000 on twitter until the ratio on that site kicks in. if you have no followers, no one will see your posts.

put spaces between the hashtagged words, you want people to be able to read them.

the main rule is, don't bombard people with posts, not many like that.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Thanks to both of you....I will get to reading Frank....headed to the beach for vacation on Saturday....great place to read!

What about Instagram?

I also do Linked In and love the way I can post an image everyday if I could keep up with it and yes, I am working on a social media plan!
Roberta

Do a discussion search for LinkedIn and you'll find my thread, Flickr and email marketing too.

If you're working on a plan, check out this website: Social Media Examiner

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I'm on Instagram but I just read the how two in the app, as it is primarily a mobile platform.

Pinterest has not been a waste of time for me. I have gotten a lot of sales from there, a few for here but mostly sales from another POD. I have boards with all my products on them, but I also have boards with my other interests. I have found, for me anyway, that having boards with other interests makes you a more well-rounded pinner. People may get to know you through your interest boards, and then they start noticing your product boards. I have 90 boards right now and over 30,000 pins. I just noticed today that I have 17,000 LIKES? I swear it was like 700 just a week or so ago. So I have a LOT of activity on my Pinterest but it's the top way I market and I spend a lot of time on there. Right now I have over 1000 followers, and that increased by 300 just within the past two weeks. I think I've followed about 15 people on there within the past two weeks so I don't know why there's such a following rampage going on. But it's fine with me! :)

Anything you do to market has to be done daily. If I have 20 new pillows to post, I don't do it all at once and flood people's feeds. I will pin 5 and take an hour or two off, then pin another 5. Pinterest now offers promoted pins if you have a business account on there. Yes it's pay per click through (you pay) but it MIGHT be worth it. I'm still sitting on the fence regarding if I want to promote my products through this feature.

Thank you Joy....so pins on Pinterest do not show on FAA...just on Pinterest...?

Thank you Frank....I think it was one of your discussions on there that got me to realizing that I need a social media plan!

There's a thread from yesterday I believe where we discussed this. There are two different schools of thought. I don't think that if you repin on Pinterest that it shows here, but others said I was wrong in my thinking. There's still no definite answer as far as I'm concerned.

sometimes i think pinterest inflates its numbers. i can't say if being there helps or not, i just don't have the stats to prove it. i still add stuff. its sort of nice to see how many others made galleries of my work. i'm not sure how people find stuff on that site.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Frank, I read your twitter links and have a question about content. The article insists you need to write the content and it needs to be value added, not just selling and not just pass other people's content on. First off, other than talk about my own art I'm not sure what kind of content I have to offer let alone something that "helps" my followers rather than sells to them. Also, you only have 140 characters, not a lot of content you can fit in that unless it's primarily a link to a blog post, (which is something I do BTW.). Do you have any ideas of how to do this for a traditional media artist like me? This is something I always get hung up on. The most often recommended thing I see is to teach what you know about making art, I don't mind doing that now and then but I'm not really interested in focusing my marketing efforts on teaching other artists.

Mike, you say to send out a few tweets a day, but what if you don't have a couple thousand images to promote? I'm a part time traditional media artist, It would easily take me at least a year or longer just to make 100 worthy images. I've already tweeted most of my images several times and all those tweets are still visible in my account for anybody to see so I don't see the point in tweeting them yet again. I have a Pinterest account and like you I don't get it, most accounts there seem like a big, jumbled mess of unrelated stuff, kinda like a yard sale of images. They also don't see to follow back nearly as readily as twitter users.

you send them in a cycle. 1-100. then 1-100, 3 a day, you just rotate them. as you gain new people, new people see it.

it is like a yard sale, however people are usually interested in certain things. at a yard sale i look for tools. others look for plates, clocks, records. etc. they are blind to everything else. its the same here. people look for what they are interested in.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

https://twitter.com/frankjphoto

David K. -- Check out my Twitter feed above. Yes, value messages speaks to your custom about them, not you. A value message talks about how the product or service is used, not what it does. In regards to art, what you said " The most often recommended thing I see is to teach what you know about making art " is good, but tweak that a little by sharing a link to a blog post where you talk about what you saw in creating a piece of your art and how you see it being used. I tweet different things each day, but now send less tweets each day that create more impact.

I must confess that Twitter is not my forte, that is why I shared the link from the sales guru and not one of my many threads here. What I have noticed is trying to do what is explained in that article I linked, I'm seeing more RT's per tweet and my stats show way more clicks per tweet.

Our FAA colleague Lori McNee knows how to do this concept much better than I though, here is her link https://twitter.com/lorimcneeartist,

Ok, friends, so I have been working with Twitter tonight and I do not know how to get my images to 5MB or smaller. I best images are much bigger than that. Why the restriction and how to make bigger smaller????? Just for Twitter??? (Sigh...)

Mike, I like the rotation...do you have them written down, in a folder, how do you track them if you do 1-100 in rotation???


Thanks, RB

I'm not sure, Roberta, as I usually share my images from Flickr or groups from Pixels. Hopefully someone will chime in here ....

i have over 2600 images. i just choose 3 that catch my eye that day and try to shoot those out. i use g+, facebook, twitter and do them all at the same time if i can.

you don't want to upload large images on twitter. and if you upload anything watermark it. or people will just take it. preferably, don't use pictures at all. maybe a now and then thing.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Frank, I checked out your twitter feed but it looks to me like you mostly tweet other people's content. I am a fan of Lori and have followed her blog for quite some time, however she's one of those that seems to market primarily to other artists, either how to make art or how to market art. I'm not sure how she actually markets her own art to collectors, I suspect it's been mostly live networking, she's got a great look and personality for that. I don't understand how I'm supposed to tell others how to "use" art besides hang it on the wall and enjoy it. For me art is very simple, if you like it, great, enjoy it, if you love it even better, buy it, if you don't like it move on and find something you do, there's plenty out there.

David K. -- You are correct! I probably tweet about 10% of my own stuff ... however .... I mostly tweet the FAA community and my stuff is often somewhere on the page I tweet.

I suspect that I use twitter different than the average member here on FAA. I don't tweet for sales. I don't tweet for more followers.

I tweet to provide value and develop relationships.

I want more clicks and more RT's because this tells me I'm speaking to THEM and not selling ME. I have the advantage now of being the groups mod. as I'm able to find through my work the active groups and tweet them. Before this when I started you will see at the back end of my FAA blog the articles I used to tweet. Then I found Jeffrey Gitomer at the Sales link I shared above which made the light bulb go on. I went through Sean's articles and every word on this website then copied short sentences that would fit on a tweet --- I believe in not reinventing the wheel.

Here is an example of a tweet that gets the most RT's every time I post it, give it a try -- Why buy another Monet print when you can buy from a living, breathing artist and support the artist community? http://pixels.com

My thinking is that we live in a narcissistic culture ... computers and search engines put everything at our finger tips. We can tweet our art one at a time, which is push marketing. Or, we can tweet our galleries, groups and contests, and let the buyer shop the page, which is pull marketing. I choose to put the control into the fingers of the buyer, and my stats tell me that what I do works.

I agree Frank, I don't want it to be all Me! Me! Me!. I do tweet other people's content and also do some retweeting and I agree that when others retweet you that is a strong barometer of engagement. However that first link you gave us says this;

"It's not what somebody else says that is meaningful to your position as a person of value in business social media; it's what you say, what you think, what you have experienced, and what you believe to be true."

I'm just not clear to me how to do that with art except to talk about what I'm doing with my art, (and maybe why) or to share the content of other's that I think is relevant to my art, or that I just find interesting. That still sounds like I'm making it about me rather than them, I have no idea how to turn that around.

- For me art is very simple, if you like it, great. Enjoy it. If you don't like it, find something you do, there's plenty out there. -

David K. -- That sentence above are your words from a couple posts back, I shortened it and thus turned it into a tweet. Tweet it and see what happens. You only need to tweet these one per day.

This tweet may look like it's talking about you, but it's really talking to your customer about them ... and how to use art.

Most artists I talk to say the same as you have, that you don't know how to talk about using art ... so most artists only share their art. That article I first posted. The motto on the top of the page: 'People Don't Like To Be Sold, But They Love to Buy.' So you talk to your customer as if they are sitting across from the table with you. I once did this, I went to breakfast with my wife and spent the time talking about my photography and art. When we got home we both wrote down what I said ... of course it was two different descriptions. But I had content for half a year of tweets, blog posts, etc. Just mentioning this I'm thinking of doing this again.

Here too is what one of those articles said to follow up on the quote you shared from Jeffrey:

How does a daily value tweet help you?
1. It challenges you to think and write. Daily discipline.
2. It challenges you to create viral messages so that you become better known as a person of value.
3. It challenges you to create the REAL law of attraction. Attraction = potential customer.
3.5 People will proactively connect with you. If they agree with you, and they respect you - they’ll tell others to connect with you as well.

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Joy about three weeks ago I got spammed for the first time on Pinterest. Something like 18 false followers different names with the same
boards of products. Sudden upticks are not always real on Pinterest. I am just at 900 followers. I have closer to 1000 people I follow. Since
people can reach directly or through others nothing hurts in the follower or follow categories. It all helps.

Pinterest for me is passive. I dont know how to get involved. I just add and allow folks to follow. I have not sold anything there, but that day
will come.

I dont like FB. There is a long list of reason why. You can search here on FAA for threads explaining things. If I was in FB, facebook, three years ago
I'd have done much better using FB.

Twitter takes a lot more than people think and does a lot less. If you know what population you will sell to then Twitter will help a lot.

G+ Business pages are more than worth exploring. And that is what I am doing.

Linkedin is worth have a good solid presence on if you want the job postings or to make connections for future commercial dealings. Very worthwhile. JMO

Dave

This is great!

LinkedIn is the easiest for me to post on. I do an image and website. Looks like I need more.
Twitter is where I do more retweeting than tweeting. Struggling a little with why I don't put image up (i love looking at all the images)
FB...stands still...no movement
Pinterest...do the same as David...just keep pinning

I will look into Fkr while on vacation
Frank, have you had a sale through Linked In?

Thank you for all your advice and opinions....still looking for a few answers to my original questions...
RB

retweeting might get your followers, but you need to tweet your own things. if you retweet everything you won't have a brand to sell and no one will really know what you do.

the images you looked at - how many have you clicked on?

also keep in mind that there are tweet farms, where hashtags attract bots, and those tweets are sent outside of twitter and people see them there. i don't think they take the ones with the images.

i consider linked in more like an online resume more than anything else. the only thing i attracted there were more wannabe friends and if you refuse enough of them they stop mailing you those. i never got into that site because it was far too confusing. and had little to do with really anything. i only joined there to find an old boss for a reference once.


basically you want to be everywhere, because you don't know where you might be seen.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

"Frank, have you had a sale through Linked In? " -- Yes!! However I have a company page and I don't post directly on my feed. Their are corporates on there who buy for the office walls as well as for their vacation homes, and everything in-between. Their are art consultants and publications photo buyers. Their are groups where I participate in discussions and sometimes link to my company page. LinkedIn is all about relationships ... its not about who your connections are, its about who their connections are.


https://www.linkedin.com/company/frank-j-casella-photographer?trk=top_nav_home

Thanks Frank, now I think I'm starting to get it. It takes a while to pound things like this in through my thick skull. I'm going to go ahead and tweet my quote right now.

Roberta I mentioned this in another thread but using a company like "hoot Suite can be invaluable to help manage your posts, Hoote lets you import three ( or four) profiles and you can send out auto posts (5) daily to each of the profiles. It is fairly user friendly. If you get the pro account you can add 45 profiles . ...and yes David they do still have the free version, ) Not sure you saw that answer in the other thread, I got fed up with linked in and deleted my account, they would not let me start a page because I did not have a ,com email address, Frank you probably remember the thread where we discussed this. I also got fed up with them because they use peoples contacts and send out mass emails inviting people to join with a false statement indicating that you had extended the invitation, They were sued for this but they still continue this deceptive practice, Roberta regarding images on Twitter, Mike is right, don't import a lot of your photos into twitter,,,but you should have a few photos (small) that best represents your work so people with have a feel for what you are about. It also helps to get you RT's,,The first thing people look for when they want to Retweet a new follower etc is a photo,
Frank your Linkedin page looks great, Makes me sorry I didn't stick it out despite the misgivings!

Hi Roberta

Everyone has different experiences andŽit's interesting to read the feedback.
If you have interesting content, people will follow and repost / retweet. I do not have enough original material yet to do lots of posts - but I chose a theme on Pinterest (doors, windows) and post one or two a day across social media, people follow and will get the original material as it comes.
In principle - in FB and Twitter - follow someone and they will follow you back, retweet people and they will retweet your work.
Content is king - original work always gets more attention and feedback (retweets may get people interested - (O this guy likes arty stuff)
I'm doing a sketch a day and posting daily ( not selling, not FAA) - I added a few limericks as comments - I'm being asked for limericks with sketches now and a lot of feedback. No, I wont sell either sketches or limericks - but an increase in followers will eventually lead to FAA, other sites or direct sales.
I have Linked for my day job, next step is to set up an artist profile. (Thanks Frank, missed that one)

I usually also have a thumbnail sized image which is useful in some media for attracting people to your site.

I use twitter to view art and photography, if there is not an image to view I will most likely not follow the link. I want to see upfront what the image is.

I use buffer to post to twitter and it allows you to send images direct from the web, the past two months I have been tweeting framed prints. Buffer will allow 4 accounts and 10 posts for free.

Reciprocal tweets are very important in the Twitter world. Interaction, be warned though, 5000 following can make one very busy.

Frank your page looks great! Everyone else....I wish I had asked these questions sooner, but maybe I was not there yet! All valuable info.

Judy, I have a website (bertsworks.com) since I started last July. Just today, I cancelled my high-tech email account with it because I only forward to FAA. It had never received an email. I hope I did not make a mistake! I bought the domain for something easier to remember than my name....roberta byram...misspelled always.

I love the way Linked In posts; for someone non techy, it is the best. I will look into the company page when I return from vacation...don't know how I will be fully present there now with so many great ideas above, but I will try!

I never look at the Twitter posts that do not have an image except if it is someone I am following and then I do retweet. However, after the above advice....I will try to mix it up a bit. Now that I have got going, perhaps others who follow me will retweet as well (some of you I already follow, so you know that I retweet when I am on line).

I have not heard anyone mention the question about FAA and Twitter, FB, Pinterest being connected via the boxes on the right hand side, top of image, so I am assuming that would be a no. Wouldn't that be a great tool???? I would pay money for that!

One last question from this grandmother of 15...I know that hashtag is # followed by a key word such as art.
I use this on some social media. I just don't know what it does? sigh....learning is hard work....

RB

I try to use #jamesmccormackartist to identify myself uniquely and for anyone to find me easily. I did try #jimbrazil (where I live) until I found someone else had it. The # hashtag will turn up stuff on FB, FAA Twitter Tumblr
if you look for #art you will get 28 millions of hits - if you get more specific and search pen and ink you will get about 3 million, .
Why the hashtag ? Search #penandink it narrows it down less than 200 thousand- if you search for the hashtags - you will turn up people who want to ge indexed with this tag.

So try to describe your work in both general and specific / more unique terms..

Thanks to all of you for the help! I have much to do when I get back! At the moment, I am going to in enjoy the ocean and the sun! Roberta

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