Conflict

I clicked one of your images and it comes up to the options page for sizes and the formats to choose.

they should be staying on your art site. though if anyone clicks on another avatar they end up elsewhere. the discussion is only on the non artist site. the art site is a webpage, but it's not really attached, its not that you don't get the forum, it's just not listed there.

i never log in with that account. i don't see the point to be honest.

---Mike Savad

when u click on my name here and go to my page yes, but if u go to the site listings of art and photographs and click on my links they dont work,should all my links not end in artist websites and not fine art america now?

so what is the point in upgrading to premium? u just have a cool looking site and nobody goes there?

You get to add more than 25 images and a cut on the accessory upgrades - frames, mats etc. The point of the upgrade to premium is to have the opportunity to sell more work.

Shane, people do go there when you market to there, or if you have clients that visit your works. I alternate between promoting my works on FAA and on my Premium site. Yes, it's worth it and useful if you make it so. :)

i mean why cant they do the cool looking premium site on here? u pay for it , so why have it over there and not interactive here , if people look at the premium site it looks better and u might have a better chance of selling something? i mean can they not just have it as something like fineartamerica/premium/name of artwork and it goes to your premium account with your pictures rather than going to artistwebsites.com if you know what i mean

You can use the widgets and make your own cool looking site. We are artists right? Here is mine using Wix -- edwardfielding.com

did anyone try to click on my picture on the link i posted on this thread yet? does it work? it keeps saying to me ....The page you have requested can not be found... http://fineartamerica.com/featured/1-freedom-shane-fitzpatrick.html

It is because you have two in your gallery named Freedom.

So on that one it is placing 1 in front which then when it tries to find it it can't because you don't have one of the Freedom's with 1 in front.

yes, thats why i deleted the other one,but its happening to all my pics on the site searches now, so if i have any maybe buyers they cant see my photos and i upgraded to premium yesterday, i sent faa a mail about it but no reply yet

I think I see what you mean. Do you mean we could have the ability to change the colors etc? Interesting thought, but Sean May want his website looking streamlined. I see FAA as the printer (as well as a great place to exchange with others) but I don't expect them to bring me clients - neither do I expect them to stop me gaining clients. They print for us :-)

PS : I'm on iPad and can't even get your link to go anywhere.

This link?

http://fineartamerica.com/featured/1-freedom-shane-fitzpatrick.html

The following is what it is showing when I search for your name:
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/1-freedom-shane-fitzpatrick.html

On your actual profile page on FAA:
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/freedom-shane-fitzpatrick-.html

It might take a bit for the eternal search to catch up with your changes.

All your other images are loading up just fine.

Strange things were happening on upload yesterday.

^ Jeffrey, those links you posted lead me to page cannot be found. Very strange.

Odd the one with the 1 will give an error but the one without the 1 should bring it up just fine.

That's strange - the second one finally did come up good!!!

I don't see anything strange happening. Everything is working fine best I can tell.

Not sure what exactly you think is wrong here?

There is a learning curve here that takes some people a few hours or a day to grasp and others weeks and months. It's a great site though. I ,learned the hard way not to name different images the same thing myself.

As far as why go premium, it's been mentioned -- unlimited uploads, a cut on the commission, which for a lot of us pays the 30 dollar annual fee and, oh, that 30 dollar anual fee is next to nothing considering what other web sites cost. FAA is also good because you set the mark-up on your work. No silly percentages game.

Are you referring to your ArtistWebsite as the "cool looking premium site"?

That is a totally different website then FAA. You long in through FAA and you are in FAA and then you go to you gallery on FAA.

You log in through you ArtistWebsite, then you are in you "cool looking premium site" or you AW (ArtistWebsite as they refer to it).

The two on bot totally connected you are right.

And that is a good thing. For promoting you own work you do not want to promote you galley on FAA. You are one of over 100,000 artist with over 7 million images.

On your AW you are the only artist and there are no one else's images in that gallery.

If you send people to your FAA gallery, with in a few clicks there are lost into a sea of 7 million images and not likely to ever find a way to get back to you.

Shane if you want people to go to your premium website, link all your posts on social media and such to it. That's how it works here. As said, FAA is a printing site - that's it's purpose.

Some basics:

When you upload, use different titles for everything.
Give it 24 hours for the site to index before you start searching for your stuff/deleting/changing/messing with things.
Never have 2 tabs/windows open while uploading/changing things.
Market your work using links to your artistwebsite http://shane-fitzpatrick.artistwebsites.com/

if people start on FAA they stay on FAA, it does not go to your art site. if they are on pixels it will stay in pixels.

the artist site is where you send your customers, and you also can upload more than 25 images, that's about it, oh and you get a commission on frames and such.

---Mike Savad

cheers for the replies everyoneim understanding it much better now and i think heather nailed it on the head i had a few tabs of different pictures and both sites opened at the same time, maybe thats why i was getting 3 bot views at the same time on my pics lol ,


thanks again

yeah you won't get that much traffic to the artist site. google tends to ignore it anyway, bing favors it, but it will still take months before it really knows your there. its best to create vanity url http://www.MikeSavad.com for example, that goes to the artist site. and i pin it with even facebook post and other places.

---Mike Savad

One mistake people make is thinking there are only a few steps to this site --

1.) Load images
2.) Watch the sales flow in

I think I made that mistake myself. It will take some work and some marketing. Some people adapt really well. Others, like me, adapt kicking and screaming.

Mike is correct. No one is going to find your AW on their. You have go out and find people and direct them to that site. I do it my advertising direct links back to specific images. I don't even promote the site it self all that much.

The fasgallery.artistwebsites.com address is not all that easy to use for generic advertising. No one is going to remember it.

I use FASGallery.net for generic advertising.

yes joseph, i completely understand, it was telling me to put a link on a webpage and send the name of the webpage back to them lastnight and i kept posting it on pages with comment boxes until i figured it out, but by that time i was about to throw my laptop out the window :) it does seem like a site that u have to keep on top of and keep updating

although we do have a suggestion list, you could add it as a perk for buying in. once they click the link to go to your image they end up in the artist site... though from FAA's point of view that may make it hard to get other sales because the buyer won't know where they are. so maybe not...


---Mike Savad

cheers mike, not sure anyone will listen to me after a day ,u got me wrong about the site thing, i meant what zeana said earlier , about customizing our profile page here as premium members, i mean i really prefer looking at a black backdrop when glancing at photos, its just my personal opinion, but it would be nice for us to chose the colours etc on our FAA page after paying the fees, rather than have an external website , i also get why people use it as there own website for clients too, so it is a 50/50 really

there at some point will be an update that might let us do stuff to that page. though i prefer white as a background because black can hurt the eyes of people trying to read white text or bright images. and you don't want people to hurt their eyes looking at images.

---Mike Savad

Black background severely hurts my eyes for reading text, FYI ,...unnatural for text...
Lovely for pics! Not one black wall I'm my house, though. Works in a gallery Page here....unnatural at home.

Also, the case against black backgrounds on AW sites is that they only pertain to the front end of the site. As soon as someone clicks on a substrate to purchase BOOM they're suddenly at a white background. Too jarring.


Dan Turner
Dan Turner's Seven Keys to Selling Art Online

That and have you ever walked into a store with black walls? Not likely. There's a reason for that. Depressed looking.

Galleries use white walls for a reason also.

Interesting discussion on the background color.

Pick up your local newspaper or any printed publication. You will no doubt see what they call reverse ads. White text on black backgrounds. The have a an instant visual impact and draw your eye to themselves.

However, I would not argue that the same can be said for the black background on an FAA AW. I am not sure the same principals would apply. I use black simply because I like it myself.

Certainly something to think about.

Those ads work because they are against the regular background of the paper - so its not the only thing you are looking at - hence it stands out. So you have white letters on a black background on a white(ish) background.

When all you are looking at is a black website, there's nothing to make that black stand out. So it doesn't work the same way.

im not talking about the website itself, im talking about my page on FAA and the ability to change some of the features on my page here rather than having the options on my " personal website" i understand that some people who are well known and generate enough views of their own website through links etc,but not all of us have that pulling power,im just saying i like my artistwebsite site much better because i made it rather than having no option here , and here is where i will get most of my views because im not well enough known to send private people to my personal one, have a look at both of them and you will know what i mean


http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/shane-fitzpatrick.html

http://shane-fitzpatrick.artistwebsites.com/index.html

which site is most attractive to you?

maybe what im saying is, when someone clicks on one of my pics on FAA why doesnt it bring them to my nicer site,the one i like , the one i paid for!

Actually prefer the look of your FAA page and not the one you paid for.

its all down to personal taste,colours etc ,but the one thing i do like on the FAA page compared to the personal one is the size of the paintings/photos, on FAA the whole page seems wider and pictures dont seem so crammed together

That very thing, Shane....larger-than postage stamp sized pix on AW, might just be the changes that are coming 'very soon'...........am very excited for the changes to take effect.............

It doesn't take you off FAA because that wouldn't be doing FAA any good. And if the shopper wants to see other images he's now been taken off FAA and probably really confused.

You market your AW site, those are your customers, you keep them on your site.
When they get to your image via FAA its usually through Google and not by your marketing efforts.

btw you can change the background color in behind the scenes. as far as i know that's what it does. i never messed with it though.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

i understand this heather,my whole reason for starting this discussion was.......

(1) my links to some of my photos/paintings on the site wernt working , and 48hrs later and 4 emails later there still not working

http://fineartamerica.com/featured/1-freedom-shane-fitzpatrick.html

http://fineartamerica.com/featured/untouched-shane-fitzpatrick.html

http://fineartamerica.com/featured/stargazing-shane-fitzpatrick.html

http://fineartamerica.com/featured/predator-shane-fitzpatrick.html



(2) the option to change the colour of your FAA page as a premium member,as all i can tell the 25 pictures upload limit is the only difference between non premium and premium members on here

The search has not updated. I have put in a request to have this done asap

thank you

Sorry I was answering your question - "maybe what im saying is, when someone clicks on one of my pics on FAA why doesnt it bring them to my nicer site,the one i like , the one i paid for!"

You didn't seem to understand it.