I never used anything but PhotoShop, starting at work about 20 years ago - Now that I'm retired I can't afford to upgrade so I bought PSE-10, which works pretty much as well as I need it to. However, I will put this thread under my Watched Discussions so that I can keep track of programs that other mac people use because I might want to try something different sometime. I guess all macs come with iPhoto, which i do not "use" per se, it just grabs onto and stores every image I upload. If there is anything I can actually "do" with iPhoto that is helpful or interesting, that I cannot do in PSE, I'd love to know.