Pixels.com On Pinterest?

Where are you seeing this? The top of what page?

Jessica - clik on the link

Pinterest? So?

Greg,

I dont understand what you are pointing out either.

Dave

Oh the limited number of boards? Pixels is not interested probably in having more than a token presence on Pinterest.
If someone were to buy from Pinterest a Pixels print, Pixels owes Pinterest. Sean has not liked that from day one.

Dave

Just wondering if it's being used as an extension of sorts to the Collections.

Jessica, look at the top of the Discussion page. "How do you Pixels?" is there in the narrow black band.


"...Pixels owes Pinterest. Sean has not liked that from day one."

David, isn't Sean the one who designs and codes the site? Guessing he's the one who placed the "How do you..." there.

Greg,

I put up some of my Series here on Pinterest. In large part a whole catalog is not necessary. Might even be a bad idea, since you want people to travel to your AW to buy.

Extension is not the right word for it. Offerings on Pinterest by Pixels. Sean dislikes paying Pinterest. Sean is not out to market our work. So this "effort" is half hearted.

Dave

I'm seeing all the fulfillment centers for FAA. Greg you are on Pixels, not on FAA

Dave, unless you specifically set up the "Buyable Pins" program, they don't exist as such. They are just pins that click back to Pixels with no monies going to Pinterest if a sale is made. From what I can see, the Pixels pins that are up now don't have the special BUY button that Buyable Pins have.

Whether Sean will be getting into the Buyable Pins program in the future, I have no clue. But, right now the Pixels boards on Pinterest do not contain Buyable Pins (and I doubt if Sean would be involved in a program that reduced his profit).

Jessica,

Yes, I'm on Pixels and not FAA, and hadn't thought about it not appearing on FAA. I stopped logging in to the FAA side of the house when our AW's got the "pixels" url.



Joy, good point about the Buyable pins. I can't see the powers-to-be doing something to decrease profit.

Joy,

I think you might be wrong about that. Buyable pins were introduced about a year ago or so. Pinterest has always collected something on everything sold on its site.

Dave

Dave,

The Buyable pins is an option, not mandatory. I still get occasional emails promoting their buyable pin deal since I switched to a business (free) account with them. Same as FB, I'm not going to send them money to "boost" my posts there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinterest

Greg, Joy,

On the wiki link under Growth, last paragraph under Growth, back in 2014 before I joined FAA, Pinterest began to charge companies like FAA a fee.

That had nothing to do with Buyable Pins. Buyable pins is where if you use them you also get charged.

Dave

In 2014, Pinterest generated its first revenue, when it begins charging advertisers to promote their wares to the site's millions of hobbyists, vacation planners, and do-it-yourselfers. Ads on the site could generate as much as $500 million in 2016, estimates Michael Pachter, an analyst at Wedbush Securities.[39]

Sean rejected that model back then. But this goes deeper than charging advertisers. All companies with products on Pinterest are advertising whether they like it or not. I still think there is a fee for FAA sales through Pinterest.

Dave

https://business.pinterest.com/en/buyable-pins

"A new way to reach shoppers and make sales—for free!

Buyable Pins still let you control the shopping experience—Pinterest doesn’t take a cut from your sales and you still get to handle shipping and customer service the way you always have. That’s why we’re only working with merchants who care about providing Pinners with the best possible experience."


Business Terms of Service:
https://business.pinterest.com/en/business-terms-service

i dont get what a pin is

This is actually very simple. If you are posting cat or recipe pins there is no charge. If you are promoting a product going back to GE, well GE probably has a contract with Pinterest covering their participation or marketshare involved with Pinterest. They owe Pinterest money on the sale.

FAA/Pixels does not work with Pinterest. But what happens next is not clear. Pinterest could lock FAA out or Sean could be paying Pinterest. I have always though Sean was paying Pinterest, but I am not in the know.

From the Wiki link:
Retail companies use Pinterest for advertising and style trending. Pinterest intends the web design to support "style conscious retailers," where customers can visualize products within a consumer context. Companies like The Gap, Chobani, Nordstrom, and West Elm use Pinterest to gather online referrals that link users with similar interests to a company. The Gap has arguably taken the biggest initiative in their use of Pinterest, employing their own themed pinboards such as "Denim Icons" and "Everybody in Gap."

Newwwman,

a pin is a post usually with an image. Pins go on boards. Boards make up your profile.

Dave

Buyable Pins still let you control the shopping experience—Pinterest doesn’t take a cut from your sales and you still get to handle shipping and customer service the way you always have. That’s why we’re only working with merchants who care about providing Pinners with the best possible experience."

Greg,

When Buyable Pins came out I was one of the first to mention them here. The concept was rejected. We do not have them as far as I know.

Sean would be on the hook is my best guess. Otherwise we really should have buyable pins.
If we have them that is news to me. If not the other reason Sean might not have installed for them is the coding nightmare. The coding would have to mess around with how every image and product is worked out here on FAA/Pixels.

Dave

Back to my original question, before the thread gets off on a tangent concerning businesses and paying/not paying:

"Just noticed the "How do you Pixels?" at the top of the page. Is it a limited image extension of the Collections?"

Greg,

Sean is very half hearted about Pinterest. If that profile was better filled out it would take up man hours he has to pay for.

Dave

and why do people pin images they like to a board?

What profile, Dave?

Greg,

The Pixels profile you linked us to in the OP on Pinterest. Pixels' boards.

Newwwman,

There now is a large shift towards more men joining Pinterest, but women primarily would seek out decor, pet, recipe ideas on Pinterest for five hours per day easily. People can go follower to follower seeing what everyone thinks is cool.

When I ask people are you on Pinterest will you follow me, the response is great. I have over 1k followers in about a year. But if I expect people to see my boards because someone follows someone else to my boards....well I get business people trying to up their follower counts. I do not get much by way of people showing interest in my work for future decorating concepts. It is early yet, but for several months I have not promoted my Pinterest profile and it has simply sat their gaining and losing followers and the net change or difference is close to zero but slightly in the positive.
1k followers is not a critical mass with a lot of exposure.

Dave

I took a further look at the Pixels Pinterest page (board/profile ;) ) and saw there were already 50 followers from FAA/Pixels members. There are 51 now, as I'm following the page also.

In regards to my original question, it looks to not be just an extension of Collections.

so they put the images and things they like on a board...to what, look at them again?,...then what? dont get me wrong, if thats what people like to do, pin things on a board so they can look at them again later, thats their problem...i just dont get it...i look at something once and thats it......and someone who sells their images...whats the purpose of posting to images for people to like and pin on their board to look at again? Are you hoping that the person looks at their pins on their board enough that they decide to buy it?

Newwman,

Women window shop. I can not explain it. Women very often have gone onto Pinterest to window shop five hours per day for months on end. People get lost window shopping for want of a better term. It is human.

The whole point is extreme commercialism prevails online.

Pinterest is an online filing system for commercial ideas. Predetermined by the buyers.

Dave

Here you go, Newman:
https://about.pinterest.com/en

it looks to not be just an extension of Collections

Yep it is just a weak profile.

Dave

DoubleU, I am the gardener for our block.

I am also an environmental gardener who likes odd things, like tea cup bird feeders

I scour Pinterest for posts, tutorials and images about environmental, or fun gardening. I then pin them to my board

When I'm ready to do the gardens I then go to my board and run through all the images to get ideas and to learn new things.

Look for 1stAngel Arts Magazine on Pinterest and you will see boards and what I mean

Dave, ihave a business account and have earned money through a couple of old posts and never once has Pinterest made money from me

Abbie,

On new products? Or on your original paintings?

What I am discussing pertains to manufactures.

People posting images do not get charged. If I post a recipe obviously I wont ever get charged for it if others cook with it.

FAA as a manufacturer? Not sure.

I have a business account there as well. I do not expect to ever get charged.

Dave

Abbie,

Do we here on Pixels/FAA have access to Buyable Pins?

If we dont can you tell us what is going on?

Dave

thanks abbie..i get it..no wonder i dont use pinterest....when i need something at the store, i will go do an internet search while my car is warming in the driveway

lol

I have over 45k pins on Pinterest on 95 boards, in fact I have a business account. I have hundreds of POD pins on there. If I have made a sale through Pinterest on Pixels or Z, I have never paid Pinterest a penny. Just because you're a business doesn't mean you automatically pay Pinterest for anything.

To answer Jeff's question, I haven't heard anything about why Pixels is putting certain images on Pinterest. I can't figure out the "How do you Pixels?" link at the top of the page, or how it relates to the Pixels Pinterest boards. To me, the link doesn't translate as an "answer" to the question.

Edited: I just did some research and in order to have your pins be "Buyable", you have to have a store on Shopify. And as of January 2016, Shopify is still not allowing print on demand or made to order types of businesses to be on Shopify, although many have asked about it. So maybe PODs will be allowed in the future. I noticed on the Shopify site they offer a 14 day free trial, so that tells me Shopify costs something to join.

I cannot discuss this just yet

Joy,

Who is Jeff? :)

Pinterest DOES NOT CHARGE when someone clicks through your work and ends up on your image on FAA or AW site or Pixels then buys it there. Period.

I do not care what Wikki might say, they only charge if you sell ON Pinterest itself.

If you want to be seen on Pinterest, and get sales from people finding your work there and clicking through to here Pin your own work. It takes three seconds when uploading and is easy. Do NOT rely on FAA/Pixels to Pin things for you just as you cannot rely on someday getting into a collection here so you can retire. Your work is yours, get it seen and get it sold.

Sorry! I meant GREG! please excuse me.

I figured that's what you meant, Joy. Just messing around. :)

"...Do NOT rely on FAA/Pixels to Pin things for you just as you cannot rely on someday getting into a collection here so you can retire. Your work is yours, get it seen and get it sold."


JC,

Concur 100%. I think my original question was possibly misunderstood, and some misinformation/misdirection interjected through the course of the thread. I was initially asking what the "How do you Pixels?" was, and if an extension of Collections.

Now, what's this about retiring? I've already done it twice, but a third would be welcome. :)

My apologies to Gil. I just noticed your closed thread about this subject and wouldn't have started this one if I had seen yours.

Being in a collection means you get to retire? Either FAA/Pixels is going to start sending my pension checks soon or I gotta keep marketing....LOL

No problem Greg. It was probably the time difference, I expect you were all asleep in the U.S. when I posted it from the UK! :)

Sounds like a lot of misunderstanding here about how Pinterest works. I have 107 boards, 10.5k pins, 1.6k followers, and I follow 1.4k. I have a business account and have never paid Pinterest for anything. People who sign up with Pinterest can check their analytics to see how many clicks their pinned items receive. It isn't hard to see when your items are receiving attention. I find it a very useful tool for free advertising. Of course, if you want your items to be seen more, you can pay Pinterest for promoting your pins, but I haven't found it necessary thus far.

Thank you for the additional clarification about Pinterest, Nancy.

Guys,

I never said Pinterest charges us for having pins. I said quite the opposite.

I left whether Sean and FAA pay as an open ended questions that I do not know the answer to.

But categorically major companies with advertising budgets do pay.

JC thanks for showing me the paradigm that clicking through on Pinterest to the AW takes the sale off of Pinterest and puts it to Pixels/FAA.
Makes the transaction minor to Pinterest, like recipes, cat photos, and other hobbies are to Pinterest.

I also have a business account. I am going to expand my Pinterest presence over the course of this year. I added Pinterest links to all my websites this morning.

I got a cup of caffeine at Starbucks late last night by accident. I have not slept yet tonight......now 8 am. I got a lot done so far.

Dave