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David Birchall

8 Years Ago

Twitter Retweets.

Whenever I load to FAA I use the automatic functions to post to Twitter and FB. I've noticed that a bunch of my Twitter followers seem to have my pictures set to auto-retweet, for which I am very grateful of course.

I would like to do the same for them but can't work out how to do it. I've seen that there are various applications on the internet claiming to do this, but I'm reluctant to use a 3rd party application for this purpose.

Any ideas ?

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David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

David,

I think they are manually RTing.

Dave

 

David Birchall

8 Years Ago

David, I'm not sure, as the same people seem to get my image tweets re-tweeted virtually instantly.

 

Abbie Shores

8 Years Ago

Iftt

 

David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

Abbie,

What is that? I am clueless.

Dave

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

british slang acronym?

or did the dog lick the keyboard?


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Abbie Shores

8 Years Ago

Google is your friend

 

David King

8 Years Ago

This is what Google gave me

Live Fire Tactical Training

Language Features of Text Type

Live Fire Test and Training

Live from the Tree

???????

 

Abbie Shores

8 Years Ago

I not L
IFTT

 

Stefano Senise

8 Years Ago

Iftt dot com???

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

live from the tree?

---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

David King

8 Years Ago

It's ifttt apparently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFTTT

 

David King

8 Years Ago

When I was able to use Twitter during the day (don't ask) there was one person that almost instantly retweeted me nearly every time so I asked her if she was using an app of some kind, she said, "nope, just bored at work.".

 

David Patterson

8 Years Ago

It's called Roundteam. It automatically re-tweets the accounts you want.

 

Kaye Menner

8 Years Ago

David, I was just about to say what David said above. Many many Twitter users use Roundteam and it works very well. I use it and could not do without it as it saves a lot of manual RTing!

 

Edward Fielding

8 Years Ago

I thought the Internet was suppose improve the speed of communication. #lolkfyoyby

 

David King

8 Years Ago

Maybe it's just me but it seems to me using software to do anything automatically is anti-social (media). :)

 

Kaye Menner

8 Years Ago

David, I think it is a bit anti-social also, but if you have the intention of RTing someone 5 times per day for example, at least the social intention is there, it's just that Roundteam hits the button for you and saves you a lot of time when you have a lot of followers.

 

Newwwman

8 Years Ago

Bingo Mr. King!!!..social media is the least social thing a person can do. Hiding behind fake profiles pictures and descriptions, etc...just like reality TV is no more reality that championship wrestling. Now we have reality politics...its absolutey sickening, discusting, revolting and I dont care for it one bit. Just my 3 cents.

 

David King

8 Years Ago

Well Newwwman, I don't feel nearly as strongly as you do about it but there is definitely a lof of fakery going on, however I've met people face to face that were fake in person as well. There are genuine, authentic people as well as phonies everywhere, online, offline, doesn't matter.

 

David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

group spam!! A new invention.

Dave.....finding out for the very first time......

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

this roundteam thing -- what do they get out of it?

i didn't sign up yet though.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

Newwwman, DK, and Mike, me self included here,

I think no one will ever read their Twitter feed again. Why would you? Unless someone automates the process of your reading it.

The whole thing is a heap of spam. Impressions become more than worthless. JMO

I wonder what Twitter's density is? By that I mean I spend less and less time there. Are other people spending more time there? Do they follow profiles and see RTs or the feed and see endless ads? Who what where and when are people actually using Twitter if at all?

I know small groups of younger adults use Twitter extensively among each other. If you crash their party with any spam they stop following you altogether. Never mind automating your RTs.

Dave

 

David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

The waitress at work the other day said that she thinks people on Twitter have higher IQs than people on FB. She was a Sociology major. Sociologists constantly make up stuff about social norms. She is a huge Twitter user. She does have me as a follow. But she is not interested in any RTs out of me. I do not even want to Tweeter to her more than a couple of times a week. It is spamming her feed/discussion if I do. She actually talks on it.

She is one of the few REAL people using it that I know. The dream of larger numbers of people following any of us on Twitter and us spamming this wont really happen as planned. Just my two cents.

Dave

Addition what happens when the vitamin salespeople show up here with muscle growth formula and spam us? They are shut down. We actually talk here. Our clients are the same way.

 

Kaye Menner

8 Years Ago

For anyone who wants to get lots of views on their work, use Twitter. I get heaps of views (but this does not necessarily mean 'lots' of sales sad to say). But if your work is not viewed, it will never sell! SO, why spend time retweeting others when Roundteam can do it for you. Then automate your own tweets as well, then go to sleep! Lol

My sole idea of Twitter is to get views on one's work ... great for artists/photographers, authors, arts and crafts, etc.
No-one would ever look at their twitter feed apart from say the last 50 or so perhaps to see who you have retweeted whilst asleep!

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David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

Kaye,

There is no view count. There is an impressions count. That means your tweets came up on other peoples feeds.

But what if no one is on the other end of that feed?

What if every small group of people who actually like and use Twitter have locked you out? Because you were spamming them with RTs?

A lot of what is going on with Twitter are fake accounts, zoombie accounts, gurus who never look, professionals who put up with us, but never look etc......

Those who actually discuss things etc on Twitter do not want 25 or 100 RTs of other people's art per day. And if they do get 100 RTs they can not possibly get into really viewing them.

Just my opinion, but I think the group RTing is way over the line into spam.

Addition: Twitter advertises profiles to other uses. People by the thousands check out the next guy's profile. I have well over 2000 profile views per month. Only my art is on my profile. So I get all those real views every month. If I get into group RT'ing I get none of that.

And what does that say about my art? That people if they follow me do so for my art. While people if they follow a serial RTer are following the local news outlet. Not the person's actual art.

Dave

 

Kaye Menner

8 Years Ago

Mike, after all the number crunching above, are you sure you want to? Lol

I set mine up some time ago, but will try to give a few simple directions....

1. Join Roundteam with your @ Twitter address. Just opt for the free version.
2. On Twitter, go to your Avatar pic top right, and in dropdown menu you will see Lists. You can start with one... just choose those who you would like Roundteam to retweet for you. (Go to that person's page, > cog wheel, > dropdown menu > Add or remove from List.) Add them.
If you do more lists, number them eg 1 to 4 so that No 1 for example will retweet more often than No. 2.
3. Then go to Roundteam > Teams tab > then scroll down to Lists. Think you will see a + sign where you can add the list you made on Twitter.

I will leave it here so when you have tried this, you can ask further questions. The 'Help' on Roundteam is difficult to understand IMO. You will not need to do a lot more than this if you want to keep it simple.

Good luck, Kaye :)


 

David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

Still think most of you are turning Twitter into spam central.

It does not have to be that way. And underneath the spamming there are many groups of people communicating.

Dave

 

Kaye Menner

8 Years Ago


David, I think the Internet in general is SPAM aside from the knowledgeable side of things that we can search. (But the adds still pop up).
Twitter is just another branch of the tree.

I don't think Twitter works much anymore for 'THE PERSONAL CONTACT AND FAMILIARITY' as it does 'HELP ME SELL MY PRODUCT'.

So I Retweet my followers products (be it art, authors, health, books, craft, etc), and they help me promote mine. Just not sure how else to promote without being SPAMMY! :)

 

David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

Kaye,

We all find it difficult. I refuse to create spam to sell. I think it would greatly limit me longer term.

Dave

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

twitter is spam central, but the roundteam also send spam out on our behalf, so its even. still others do use it as a chat place and choose what they think is spam.

and dave if you advertise your stuff any place -- that's spam. its as simple as that. when i pointed that out to a certain person he said - no that's not spam its advertising. but its really spam.


on roundteam, i see filters - and there is like a dozen and a half of them, i'm not sure what they do exactly.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

https://twitter.com/DavidBridburg

tell me how this isn't spam?


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

Mike,

That is my profile. Over time some folks may want to see what I do next.
I tweet several times a month to the 18k followers. I do not overload them.

I do agree that unsaid person who has been a very good friend to me was indeed spamming Twitter heavily. I do know that.

Back to my profile on Twitter over the coming few years if anyone is following that profile it is because they are interested in my work.
Such a relationship is consensual. Spam is first and foremost going on there and cold calling people with ads etc.......

I simply am not doing that.

I give you and Kaye the truth these decisions to hold back or even to bombard the airwaves on Twitter are not easy at all.

Dave

 

David King

8 Years Ago

I kind of agree with David B, in a perfect world anyway. The reality is the spamming appears to work for a lot of people, but all that spamming makes twitter pretty much unusable for making meaningful connections. I've come to terms with the fact that I'll never be willing to do what it takes to market effectively on twitter, I think I may have tweeted my last tweet.

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

i can tell you that no one will see your tweets if you only do a few a month. you overload them with dozens a day. still though its spam.

people following only want you to follow back. that's it. i don't think many really ever look at a profile

thing is we are talking about twitter and you said you refuse to spam, so this is where we are.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Kaye Menner

8 Years Ago

David, I just checked your Twitter Profile and we follow each other. I may be interested in your work, but I did not know/remember that I was following you.... perhaps you also.
I sort of feel that if you are advertising YOUR product as you are, then those who have retweeted your product.... should you repay them the favor and retweet their product on occasions?

I must agree with Mike than putting anything for sale on Twitter is basically spam, but how else do we advertise on the net?

In my opinion, the word SPAM is really just another word for advertising. SPAM really is when someone asks to not receive junk mail. Just my thoughts. People can unfollow you on Twitter and not see your spam.

I think all of us on Twitter are doing the same thing.... with or without automated services. Automated services just save us time.

Kaye :)

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

i consider spam as - unwanted advertising. and some things are heavier than others. like viagra, enlargement pills, and the like. because you can always view a profile, you'll know right away if its full of ad's or not. but i think most just click follow and that's it. i never look at their feed. spam comes to your mail box because you bought a list some place. spam is the stuff sent to your email because you bought something, having a remove me from the list is needed, but the message is still spam.

twitter is another place to view advertisements, though i think its more about business and less about people these days.

also one should have an almost equal follower/following number. if you have a lot following, and you don't follow many, it may look like you don't follow back at all. so others will stop following you.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Kaye Menner

8 Years Ago

Mike Savad said: on roundteam, i see filters - and there is like a dozen and a half of them, i'm not sure what they do exactly.

Mike, just click on the "No Retweets" filter. This means that if you follow Joe Blog, and he Retweets Mary, you will NOT be retweeting his RTs of Mary. It is really a must, otherwise you are going to see Roundteam retweeting many people who you do not know, and sometimes could be porn if the person on your list is not careful who they Retweet.

 

Kaye Menner

8 Years Ago

Mike, in addition to my last post which you may not have seen yet, I agree with all you say, but I personally feel it is a must to just scroll a little on new followers' feeds, as if you follow them and it is porn, (and there are quite a few), they can then add what they like to your timeline... I have done this and have found some pretty 'crude' things posted on my timeline.

 

David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

Mike, Kaye,

You are right in a way I needed to rethink. The way I word my introductions to new work. I hype it up. I need to rethink that.

Dave

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

no one cares about new work. they don't even know what you do or what that is. if they follow you, they might view it. i try to remember to add #NEW to the front, just to group them. but i doubt it helps any. the most important thing you can do is to not post the picture, and add more hashtags relating to the people you want to attract. adding #decor or #designer - won't attract that type of person. people looking for a designer would type that in, but your supplying the art. so it makes it all rather confusing.

like your trying to sell up your fruit roll up dolls, you should be focusing on people that like old toys.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Paul Gulliver

8 Years Ago

I don't limit my re-tweets to FAA or Zazzle, a lot of my products are aviation related so I tried to think what my followers might be interested in. I chose the International Space station, the British astronaut that is on the station at the moment, also certain aircraft heritage accounts and flying clubs.
Easiest way is to create a custom list on twitter of the accounts you want to re-tweet and set up Roundteam using that list.
I usually limit my re-tweets to 2 or 3 per hour and a minimum of 15 minutes between each re-tweet (per account) not to flood my followers.
A matter of trial and error most of the time

 

Paul Gulliver

8 Years Ago

@Mike - why do you say *Not* post the picture? I would have thought by posting the picture if someone like it and want to buy it they will follow through by clicking the link, if there is no picture most just won't bother at all and pass by

 

David King

8 Years Ago

This discussion is a good example of no matter how you are doing it your are doing it wrong. lol

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

if i can see the picture there - why would i ever visit your store? most people are trained to look at an image as a matter of fact thing that you found on the net and are showing as an image. i don't think many think that the image is for sale. now and then its a good way to get attention, but i don't think many assume its a product.

i tried experimenting with pictures - i got half as many hits. i got a few RT's out of it, even a month later, but for the most part - less hits.

people will click on a link if the link sounds interesting and has the right tags on it. i try to make them curious tags to hopefully raise curiosity. this is also where catchy titles helps.


as far as round team goes, i'm probably making it overly complicated, but the site just doesn't make sense for me. nor can i figure out who i would want to follow out of all the odd people i have in my lists.

---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

@tractor dave - there are right and wrong and wrong and right ways of doing things. its a matter of experimenting. pictures seem like a good idea, but if everyone has them, your no longer unique and you blend in. it has its advantages, but it has disadvantages like it doesn't allow you a lot of space to add hashtags. and without those, few people will see any posts you make. your limited to your friends list.

though overall, right now, i only get a few hits a day on twitter anyway. i think the effectiveness has worn off. the uniqueness of that site isn't there any more. i'm not sure what the in thing is, but its probably phone related.

---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Joy McKenzie

8 Years Ago

Well something is afoot at Twitter. Four high level executives left of their own accord around the same time last month.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/twitter-executives-leaving-company-36498056

I found it interesting that Twitter has not turned a profit since its inception ten years ago.

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

i've always wondered how they made any profit at all. its not really set up to make money. and ironically, the people using it probably make more money then twitter themselves.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Paul Gulliver

8 Years Ago

People seem to be getting fed up with social media sites in general, on my personal FB site very few posts are made by my "friends" - certainly different than a few years ago when most used to post several times a day

 

Georgiana Romanovna

8 Years Ago

Mike, did you put "no sensitive media" on your roundteam setup? If not, you might end up RT"ing more than you bargained for. It happened to me 0:)

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

right now i'm at the level of, just entered. i can't see my lists of people or how or what i should be retweeting.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Kaye Menner

8 Years Ago

Mike, we are following each other on Twitter.
Here is your page showing your one list with only you on it : https://twitter.com/MikeSavad/lists

You need to add a few people to this list who you would like to Retweet their tweets.
Then you can go to Roundteam and add this list.

Here are my instructions from above:
1. Join Roundteam with your @ Twitter address. Just opt for the free version.
2. On Twitter, go to your Avatar pic top right, .. and in dropdown menu you will see Lists... (or you will see Lists just on the right of your Followers).
You can start with one... just choose those who you would like Roundteam to retweet for you. (Go to that person's page, > cog wheel, > dropdown menu > Add or remove from List.) Add them.
If you do more lists, number them eg 1 to 4 so that No 1 for example will retweet more often than No. 2.
3. Then go to Roundteam > Teams tab > then scroll down to Lists. Think you will see a + sign where you can add the list you made on Twitter.

PS It is a good idea to make your Twitter List/Lists private.

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

i never figured out how to use the list feature in twitter. its why its pretty much empty. is there a way to search through my followers?

still trying to figure out who i would want to retweet. while its easy to peg down an artist with a lot of members, it would be not a great idea mixing brands. if its a retweet it should be to a potential buyer, and narrowing that is shorting circuits in my brain.

---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

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