How Do I Get A Psd 900 Mb File Fine Art Printed Here?

Shrink it down to a 25MB JPEG?

Melany Sarafis:
Thanks thing is I want the fine art print. It would be pointless for me to shrink the image down and lose the icc profile.
Are the prints and art prints all printed at the same 25mb max up load with that srgb web profile?

At the moment... yes.

You don't.

Glen McCarthy:
Ok , So at the moment ... they are printing large fine art prints from 25 mb max uploads- where is the fine art print in that?

Stephen Charles:
If I pay the membership charge , then do I get the finer fine art print option?

The 25mb limit is going to be a little constricting as cameras get higher and higher quality... Especially since they recommend you save JPGs at the max quality level (no compression). I am always on the verge of that 25mb wall with my Nikon D750. I put together a panoramic image last night that clocks in at over 40mb. But 900mb is way too big... I'm not even sure if you can upload a psd here

I remember the upload spcs being pretty clear when I signed up and I have many large images 2 ft by 3 ft and one a little larger that I have ordered from here and there look amazing so its possible given the size restraints.

Very few pod outfits will print a straight psd file and even less would print a 900mb file. It's just not very practical when jpg file sizes are much smaller and for all practical purposes, the details that may be lost are negligible and not noticeable except when measured by machines on a bit by bit level, unless of course if you saved your jpgs in ps down to a 4 quality setting or less. -W

you won't lose the profile. that's embedded in the image. your looking at the PSD. flatten it to a JPG. no site any place will let you upload a 900meg file. i don't think even a printer would take a file that large.

we print at 100 dpi here, no complaints from anyone. the fine art in fine art print -- is the art.


when you pay here you get to upload more than 25 images and have a private site. you still have a 25 meg limit. i do agree that it should be larger, but no one would make it a gig.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Toby McGuire: Thanks. I'm shooting 50 megapixels and some of my images are PSB files.
I can't see how they print large 40 inch width or larger prints with such small files and web color profiles
Jpeg doesn't handle layers . Another member told me no layers, alphas or spot colors, he also mentioned they print at 100 dpi, yet they say they print at 720 and 1440 dpi.
Essentially this is not fine art printing then..

you don't need layers. the layers are only for editing. while they create denser pixels for smaller prints. the largest ones print at 100dpi or less,


your not understanding what fine art is.

this is an art site. fine is not the pixel density, its art that we make. this site allows for large images to be printed and still retain the detail. i suppose if you had micron sized detail you wanted to retain then you might be out of luck. but buyers aren't going to see that. the largest pixel size is 6200, so anything more than that will be wasted anyway. in any case, no site prints a psd or psb file. you have to flatten it and save it as a jpg.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Why would you need layers after finishing your image? Flatten it.

Better yet order a print and see if the quality matches what you think a fine art print is. Or since you are in NYC call around and see if anyone will accept such large file.

you also don't want to give anyone the psd. its almost like handing over a negative. most of my images, digital, colorize etc, will be between 500-1500meg on average. then its reduced down to 25megs or so, that's just how it is.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Where on-line are you selling work right now Johann? Would love to see an image of what your fine art consists of.

This may be a whole new world that you need to discover. Seems to work our good for Fine Art America with files topped off at 25 MB. It also seems to be very acceptable to clients. This place continues to grow in leaps and bounds. And that is what they care about.

Mike Savad and Edward Fielding.
Thing is without layers you can't do spot colors.and that's what pantone inks are all about. And without layers the printer can't adjust the channels individually which is what fine art printing is about. Printing at 100 dpi is banner printing not fine art printing. Fineart america says they print at 720 and 1440 dpi and Mike Savad, you say they print at 100 dpi.
Is there a location in Manhattan where I can see examples of fineart America's fine art prints?

The printers print what you upload on your data, They cannot print in layers.

Please save your image as a jpg and the size will dramatically reduce

You can then also compress it to about 10-11 before losing quality

We need anything over 100ppi and Adobe RGB or sRGB

Upload an image and you can purchase at the base cost to see what the quality is like

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Sounds like you need a local printer where you can run artist's proofs and watch over the shoulder of the printer. Maybe in Brooklyn.

Johann,

I've sold a few prints here, 4 feet x 6 feet, from small 20 mb files. There is NO reason to print from a 900mb file, unless you've got your own Epson Large Format printer and a RIP, like ImagePrint, which a friend of mine has and he prints large files, larger than 900mb on his.

You could probably contact the FAA printer in High Point, NC, and see about sending this file, as a new customer,but probably wouldn't do so through FAA,

Rich

Well. thanks and from the responses I can tell that this is just another POD site .
There are plenty of custom labs in NYC that can easily handle PSB files. I send PSD and PSB files to these labs all the time.
I don't sell on any website for piracy reasons.
Thanks for answering my questions.

"I can tell that this is just another POD site "

I like to characterize it as a POD site NOT like any other... ;-) -W

So what really is the beef? Most artists that are reproducing their work will not hide where their images can be viewed!

What are you hiding Johann? Shouldn't be your artwork...

I have done a number of panoramas that the .Tiff files were between 2-4 GB's when I was done with them... I had no problem exporting them as .jpegs to get them under the limit and they are fine on here..

its a high volume printer, its rather doubtful to think they will adjust each tone. this is a print on demand site, what you see is what you get. make sure your monitor is calibrated, make it in aRGB for better accuracy and upload. you have to realize, that if your printing your own files, you should do it locally. this is a site where others can buy your images. if your very sensitive about the colors and such, then you shouldn't be using a POD.

you don't upload to other sites for piracy, but you were planning on sending a full file with layers intact.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Rich Franco: Hey large format , dye-sublimation on glossy paper is what I like. I'll stay with my custom tribeca lab. I must say your work is great . It's like the Tom Wait's song "Pretty Blue Gun,"- lyric -" all my dreams are made of chrome,".
Isabella: The thought of compressing a 900mb file to 25 mb ( a 97.3 % reduction), is terrifying. and then going from a procolor color profile to even Adobe rgb is a loss of half the file's colors and with that there is another 50 % loss of colors due to the inkjet printing process- yuck. Actually, printers do print spot color layers. An example would be printing a
Blue Chevrolet automobile with it's distinctive GMC blue color which Epson inks can not deliver accurately- that's what spot color layers are for.Ever done a duotone, tri or quadtone in Photoshop, or mixed channels in the calculations feature.Printers , however do not print pixels . PPI is pixels, per inch in the file. Printers print dots,( DPI) they can't print a three dimensional pixel.
Thanks again .

you have to realize that every layer in photoshop will add an insane amount of size to your file. every mask, channel etc, makes it larger. jpg removes the layers, channels, masks then compresses it. at a level 12 you'll retain the data you need to print. there is nothing terrifying about it. you should try it. print two locally and see if you can see the difference.

i'd be curious what images your trying to print where you need a color range like what your describing.

in the end- the buyers, won't know the difference or the color of things will actually be. especially since what they see on their screen will differ greatly.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Hey Glen McCarty,
I'm not hiding my work. I share my images with my friends.I take photographs for myself not for other people or to sell or get stolen on the web.I don;t need a photographic income.
I now realize how pointless a service like Fineartamerica.com is, in my case, in which I'm shooting with a 50 megapixel camera. My goal is quality and clarity. It would be counter productive to downsize the image files I photograph. If there were a notice up front saying Fineart America. com has a 25mb max file upload. with a web color profile, we would not be having this conversation. Maybe there is such an upfront notice and I missed it- so what!

there aren't too many cameras that are 50 mp - what camera are you using?


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Johann, welcome. It sounds like you are confusing offset printing (cmyk + spot colors) with fine art giclee printing. First, a much wider color gamut is achievable with RGB as opposed to CMYK. Second, the inkjet process is a continuous spray of ink. There are no dots, so discussions of dpi are meaningless.

Click "Save As" on your PSD file and click jpeg. The program will tell you the file size before you save. Adjust as necessary to fit under 25MBs.


Dan Turner
Dan Turner's Seven Keys to Selling Art Online

Mike, forget the camera, what computer is she using to manipulate 900mb? HOAX HOAX

Johann,

FAA seems to have been opportunistic in a sense. When people began to lose jobs they turned to what they had in hand... a camera and a computer. FAA was in the right place at the right time with the least stringent template. Now it has millions of images to offer. What percentage can be construed as Quality Fine Art is a matter of opinion.

Good fortunes on your endeavor. Sounds like your friends will be getting some pretty nice prints for Christmas.

....I'd still like to see what images this conversation revolves around. Madge... a refill over here. Thank you.

please note that this IS a print on demand site and we have now answered the question in the only way we can.

I am sorry we cannot help further.