'image Too Small' Message On Upload

Usually a small image file will be OK for a greeting card. But you will see that you will not be able to enter any prices if the file is too small.

Yes, If an image is too small it will not enable those products that require larger pixel file-sizes.

Good to know there will be a warning. Thanks.

i've seen some really small images on this site. i kind of think no you won't. but you won't really be able to sell to many things either. it won't tell you about quality until after someone buys it and they reject it.

you will have to do something about your noise however


like this probably won't print due to noise


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

My daughter tried to upload some really small images and she got a warning, so yes, I believe the site will tell you if your image is too tiny to be sold on anything when you try to upload it. Just going on what she told me. She scanned them in a long time ago and didn't know what size they were - they were like 200 x 300 or something like that, maybe smaller.

@Jessica Jenney: Thank you for your comments. I do not expect to be in such a situation to find out. However, I think it would be a puzzling experience if one did upload something so small, say a 640x480px image, and tried to enter prices and not being able to. It could create the thought that one's computer was not functioning properly, or some such thought, and never realizing it had to do with the image size. Maybe I'll try it, just to see what happens, and then deleting it.

@Mary Bedy: Yes, I have been on an artist's site here where all the images are quite small, around the 400px mark. This was the reason for my question. Has your daughter sold anything with such small images? And what was the quality like? I'm curious!

@Mike Savad: Thanks for your input re the noise in my Arum Lily pic. I will take it down and work on it. Any other of my images too?

Since my previous reply, today I uploaded a 620px image and was surprised that it was shown as available as a very small print. Yet, all the other products also did allow me to fill in prices, even for the duvet and shower curtain!
No, I haven't saved the upload...lol.
Hmmm....?

Yes, Janina, that is strange! I just tried it myself and was surprised to see that such a small image is allowed on shower curtains and duvets! And it is showing full size on a shower curtain! That is very misleading!.

When the duvets were introduced the requirement was 5000x5000px. Since that was a problem for many artists/photographers, FAA did away with that but there should be some limit!

i glanced at the others, but mostly noise and stretching will do you in. its easier for you to see it on your side than mine.

its always a surprise what will fit on these products. i know he lowered the limit on them but it just seems to me that a file that size stretched across a wall sized product would look terrible up close. but who knows, it does allow for a lot more freedom, still wonder what it looks like though.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

@Jessica Jenney and @Mike Savad: On upload, when choosing which products to offer, there is only one message suggesting required pixel sizes, and that is for the duvet, to fully cover it with an image (like how it presents for the shower curtain, for instance). In fact, I've offered only one image (M Pixelated Blue) as a duvet, but only for the Twin and Full sizes (here Downunder, the 'Full' would be called a Double-bed size) as I have no aversion to having a black duvet with a reasonable-sized image on it, and would view it as a piece of minimalist art. I would buy it!

I have yet to read about the White-Label Our Technology, which I presume is all about the printing and quality of that print.

I think and believe it would be good for FAA/pixels.com to give an indication about MINIMUM RECOMMENDED PIXEL-SIZES against the non-wall art or greeting card products, ON UPLOAD, ie shower curtain, throw pillow, phone cases, tote bags, t-shirts, (the duvet already has it) to produce quality results. Any votes for this idea? And who do we contact about it?

@Mike Savad: "....noise and stretching..." -- I have taken down two more photographs. By 'stretching', I presume you mean cropping to enlarge/bring the subject closer thereby creating a 'macro' view. That's why I have borders around some of my work and offer only small sizes, apart from it being a method of creating a more-focused viewpoint for the viewer. Small is beautiful.

Of the three monochromatic photos left, there is only one I'm truly happy about, one is grainy as opposed to noisy but requires more work, and the other, well, we'll see, it's not really that bad! I'm only offering relatively small sized prints anyway. In fact, I've just ordered some greeting cards (5x7in is quite large) of M Pixelated Glow to see how the texture in that image and the 'glow' looks. I'll let you know. Thanks, Mike, for your input re my work, 'tis very much appreciated. You're a real gem! :-)

PS: Is your computer not functioning well...lol...I do all my work on a laptop, hence I see things in the sRGB color space. As well, up to now all my D80 images have been taken as jpg -- large, fine, adobe rgb II color space (recommended) and after processing saved in the sRGB. So there is little I can do about earlier photos, other than maybe re-photographing them. I will set my camera to RAW and try that. 10Mp is not much, but the RAW should give me more detail to play with. I use Lightroom (convert to DNG, I know about that compression, not as bad as jpg). I also have recently installed IrfanView 4.40 and will get in touch with him to get some guidance on that side of things.

PPS: Did you know that you look like Daniel Hageman, another artist on FAA?

@Mike Savad:
PPPS: I forgot to say, that as an ambient light photographer, I always have my dSLR set to ISO800 with Noise Reduction at high ISOs set to On. On the whole, the results aren't too bad, depending on the subject of course, eg Diamond, A. That high ISO lets me photograph without the need for a tripod particularly in interiors if the lighting is reasoinably good (I fumble around with a walking stick these days, so the less to carry, the better).

i can tell you that without a doubt - customers wont' buy it. i know this because i have duvets on another site and they never ever sold that way. repeated in a pattern, filled on the edges. none of them. as soon as i was allowed to have full size on here - they sold.

there is a suggestion list where you can mention that, floating around, andee has that, check in the search.


the large borders will only be liked by a select few. not everyone wants a large white matte around the image

my screen is calibrated.

RAW won't give more detail. it will give you less sharpness actually, but more exposure range. it will allow you to fix a blow out better, and give you full control of color. as far as i know DNG doesn't compress, it just makes it into something photoshop can use, it if doesn't handle your camera. daniel actually looks more like me, i was here longer.

if your shooting natural light, use iso100 on a tripod. otherwise you introduce noise, then destroy even more detail with the noise remover on. there is no need to do that.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

@MikeSavad: Thanks re all your comments.

Re Andee -- I think I'll just go the Help > Contact Us route and provide them a link to this discussion. They can then decide if they wish to take up the idea. It should need only be a short sentence in all the text that appears there now for all the items on offer.

White Label: I've looked at that...it's about websites, not printing! LOL. I'm learning...

Borders: I agree with you. However, I think this a subject for another discussion as I do have a point of view, especially when seeing the types of mat/framing shown on some of the sold items one sees on login. Some are just awful and shouldn't be allowed! I'll leave my bordered image on the site for the moment, but tonight have uploaded two versions without borders; they've been de-noised much better....yay!

DNG/RAW: I've been doing some reading since then. DNG is lossless yet produces a slightly smaller file size. 'Detail' to me means image information that one can play with in Lightroom (which is what I use; Photoshop is too techie for me!).

Here's the mono version of tonight's upload:

dng is a universal format. like if your editing program doesn't like the format your camera is making, you can often get a converter that changes it into a dng file. its still raw, just a different format. hard to say if it keeps all the info or not. since it may remove camera info. the details shouldn't change at all.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

I use dng all the time - my camera has an option to use it instead of the camera-specific RAW format. As far as I can see, it doesn't remove any camera info and behaves just like any other RAW file.

To close this discussion, I've made a request and have received a reply today (3oct), as follows:


RE: (Ticket #158335) - 'Image Too Small' message on upload to the site‏

Pixels.com (support-tickets- at - fineartamerica.com)

6:22 AM


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Janina

Thank you for your suggestion which I am passing over to the owner now. He may not get back to you personally but please know that he will see it when reviewing all the suggestions

Abbie


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Sent: Thursday, October 1st, 2015 - 12:57 PM
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Subject: (Ticket #158335) - 'Image Too Small' message on upload to the site

Hi guys,

I opened a discussion in the Discussions forum: http://pixels.com/showmessages.php?messageid=2721122&targetid=2733122#2733122

I would like to see incorporated in all the text that is shown against the various products, when in Upload mode, a sentence to the effect that the MINIMUM pixel size requirement for that product is x pixels on the long side.

Particularly on those products such as the duvet, shower curtain, t-shirt, tote bag, throw pillows, phone cases, and even the wall art.

I have been able to upload quite a small file size, eg 620px, and was surprised to see that I could offer that sized image as a shower curtain and even as a duvet. I would be very concerned about print quality! I'm sure you would be too. I have come across another artist on pixels.com who offers images much smaller than that!!

Please consider my suggestion. Thank you.

Janina Nowak
2oct15