Sponsorship - Few Questions

1. it costs no money at all (the links help the rank of this site)
2. you have the word, someone types the word, you may show up in the third line depending how uncommon the word is.
3. the advantage is, you might be seen on the front page depending on the word you use. if you use the word landscape, then you will be in line with the other 10,000 people who have that word. the less common the higher the chance your seen. but only on the site you add a link for. FAA, pixels etc, all need their own link. if you sell paintings, you'll need one just for that.
4. impossible to answer, it depends on the work. i think i have 50 or so words. i found it to be a total waste of time for the most part. it might have gotten my foot in the door. but all links you give, lead back to the search. so if you place this in a page (it can't be facebook etc), people click on that, and you'll end up in the search with everyone else.

i think you'll get more out of it if you send them right to your site.

to be on the first page of the search - you need to sell a lot of things. no other way. unless you have something very rare and they are looking for that. the very front page is chosen by the owner of this site. comments i don't think count for anything. views count for very little. people you see on the front sold a lot of things. it assumes they have good work for people to see. how it chooses from there is a mystery.

you have to stand out in your field, horses are common, not much getting around that. you'll have to advertise to horse people.

i suggest more tag words that have horse in the theme - latin names, proper etc. do remove the term bamboo, its spam because there is no bamboo. mentioning how you make them in the tags isn't something anyone would search for. description should outline what we are looking at and not how it was made. most buyers won't know what bamboo even means.


mostly you have to market your work and not rely on the search.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

It's not about getting people to click on the link you place Mike, I think that's only good for FAA's SEO and that's why they offer this feature. My links are in places where it's unlikely anybody will see them anyway. For me it's about the getting the chance of being seen in a search on FAA that you otherwise would never get seen in. For someone that is just getting started here or has no sales that's a huge benefit, that does provide a way for the newbies to be on the first page with no sales. Obviously a search that has a lot of sponsors means you won't get seen often, but you'd be surprised how many search terms that at least in my case I believe are likely to be used have few or no sponsors. For example "rusty truck" currently I own the whole 3rd line. Before I sponsored that you'd have to go in several pages to see my art.

Thanks for mentioning that links to FAA won't work on Pixels, I didn't think of that since I don't spend any time on Pixels but my art is listed there. Now I have more sponsoring to do.

no its not about clicking. its about showing up on the front page. but should someone click on it, you may not be there at all.

just be sure to view it when your not logged in. because it will always show you on the 3rd line if your logged in and have the word.

and be sure you do it for paintings because that search will find other things. rusty truck, and rusty truck paintings will have different results from what i understand.


basically its better than nothing, but with so many people on the site, it will be hard to be seen there.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Kate, I love how you paint your horses. Well done! Same subject I loved for many years.

Now here on FAA, most of what you ask is like a gamble. If you do the work of marketing and then sell a LOT here, you possibly may move up in some categories. But then that is not for sure either as all is up to who manages FAA. And is how they pick and choose. Yet, for your money, if you choose the premium, this is a very good art site to be a part of. Just that it is humongous and all mixed up.

Thank you Mike, that you David for participating in that post.

I was a really confused about this sponsoring thing but now I know more.

Need to improve my tags and set google+ finally.

If I write as tags for ex. " running wild horse", would somoene have to write EXACTLY the same three words to find my works?

@Mike - what do you mean by "i think you'll get more out of it if you send them right to your site" ? send rights to whom? and what that means? that someone can have signature my works as their own with NOT my name on it?

@Dawid - could you please give me some websites pages where I could be a member and have sponsored links to our FAA?

@Mary - thank you!! I am glad you like them too. Im gonna go through your gallery very soon as I see amazing horses there.

I realize that I is hard task to be seen here and I dont expect 'miracles" after sponsoring and etc just want some good advicesfrom more experienced artists.

I must say that I have had an account here before and sold at least 20 things what for me was a great sucess (!!!) but from some obstacles I removed my old account and after awhile set a new one and now I have a problem to sold anything, I am very low in ranking....after checking 60 pages with horses I was still not visible so I really doubt that someone would have a patient go through 60 pages at all to find me !! ;D

all sponsor links go right back to the search, and you may or may not be there. like if you type rusty trucks right now, i saw only one of david's things. there might not be the next time. so if you want people to see your work only, post links of your images only. best off on your artist site.

send them - DIRECTLY to your site... no sending them rights to it.


you need to have your own webpage, word press etc to sponsor them. it need to be able to use the HTML code it gives you.


if you think people will find you with the that - running wild horse - phrase, then add that. but i doubt anyone would look. they may look up a certain breed though. add more horse related words and less background related words, very few are horse based. however your description should outline that it is running. describe the pictures to people know what they are looking at it, without actually looking at it.


best thing to do is try sponsoring something.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

why did you erase the old one? doing that broke all your links, ranking etc.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

@Mike - thank you very much, your comments are very helpful.

why I erased??? because I was a fool !!! You have no idea how much I regret. Someone wanted me to do it and I did and now I pay for it. I know that all my rankings were ruined in the moment I delated me old account ehh....well...I cant turn back time now, I will just keep trying with this new account.

I will add more horses related tags and remove "bamboo" sth :)

oh yes..."send them right to it"....now I see that I translated wrong :) I get you now

"like if you type rusty trucks right now, i saw only one of david's things."

But you did see one of my images, if I had not sponsored that search you most likely would not see any of my images. And I do sponsor "rusty truck painting" as well, though that's almost not necessary because there are only four pages of those and many of my images show up on the first page anyway. Though this is an example of how a painter can get seen in a sea of photographs. "rusty trucks" produces 73 pages of images, most of them photographs, without sponsoring, none of my images would ever be seen in that search.

I'm not saying sponsorship is the key to success but anything that gets your artwork in front of more eyeballs increases the chances of a sale and sponsoring a search only takes a minute so I think the "time expenditure vs potential reward" ratio is a pretty good one. I'm not saying to do this en lieu of other marketing efforts.

1. Does it cost real money? I think it does, but I am not sure.

No, it does not cost money

2. Does it work on pages like Google+ and our FAA yourname.websites.com?I know that on FB it does not work and I also do not have any other webpage except for our FAA.

I don't think it works at all. I have over a hundred sponsorship and I see no correlation to what I am selling and what I have in the way of sponsorshipsl

3. Does someone of you already do it? do you see any progress with views, SELLS, comemnts etc.?

Same answer as above.

4. How many sponsorship's pages I should have to noticed some chnages?

I have well over a hundred, maybe 200. And no, I have seen no changes. That does not mean I am not picking up an occasional sale, but there is no real way of knowing that. I try to track what I can and when I look at what I am sponsoring and what I am selling I see no correlation what so ever.

"What should I do to appear at first page in FAA? only comments and views count? "

Out sell the big guys and that is not going to happen. Forget getting on the front page. Forget comments, forget the views. The only thing that counts here to any great degree is sales.

You need to read these articles and get a better understanding of how you are going to get sales. It has little or nothing to do with what you do one or inside FAA or Pixels. It has everything to do with getting your work seen outside of FAA and only on your ArtistsWebsite.

Response to new FAA member looking for advice – 25/75 Rule
Another Response To A New Member Seeking Help
A Few Reasons Why You May Not Be Selling
Work Smarter Not Harder To Beat The Big Guys
50 Effective Tips to Help You Sell You Art

Kate, if I may be so bold, for where you are in your selling, from what little information I have seen, I would not worry about putting up a stand alone website. At some time in the future that may be something to think about.

But you only have 78 images. You need to read that first article and pay close attention to that 25/75 rule. You need to come up a marketing and advertising plan that features your work on your ArtistsWebsite, not Pixles or FAA. That will only end up leading people to the 2 million images you are trying to get away from.

If you have a Twitter and or Facebook page or any SM you can start there. But do not use the automatic posting that is found on your FAA pages or your AW pages. The end up being adds back to FAA/Pixels.

Make you posts directly to your FB or Twitter pages with links back to specific images on your AW.

For best results you need to know a little about basic advertising. Here is another link that may help you.

Advertising Your FAA Artistswebsite http://fineartamerica.com/blogs/advertising-your-faa-artistwebsite.html

@Floyd - Thank you so much for your help. I am gonna read everything you put here and try to do sth to improve my page.
Yes 78 images, only, as I do not take photos (i am not good at it). My painting is time consuming. I doubt that I ever have many works...lack of time is awful and I am sleepyhead:)