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Shawn Dall

8 Years Ago

The Benefits Of Scanning Your Artwork Over Taking Photos Of It

Hey guys, so I actually scan all my original work and upload it here. So what are the benefits of this? Well I will let you know...

1) when you scan a work you can scan it a high bit depth and thus the end result can actually be blown up larger than the original, with no loss of detail

2) the results are MUCH clearer and crisper - no blurrines and every last detail can be zoomed in on.

3) you can save it as any high quality file you wish. One can argue you can do this with photography too, but there are just some elements that a camera cannot capture of your work.

now saying this there are some downsides as well.

1) scanners tend to be small. Personally I have to scan mine in pieces and then piece it all back together in photoshop, and then colour adjust it. I have gotten pretty good at this, but it does take time, and you gotta be careful of parts that warp due to most scanning beds not being completely flat, so you have to overlap parts and partially erase bits for it all to seamlessly fit together.

2) depending on your medium you can get weird lighting effects from the scanner light constantly illuminating your piece as it scans it. I have a special scanner that is built specially to address this problem

3) flourescent lighting can sometimes have weird colour effects on your piece. I often have to do some colour adjustment after to match it back to the original, but it is entirely doable.

So there are about as many pros as cons - most of the cons being due to time and size of piece - but the pros being you can then sell that piece at a bigger size than the original would be. My scanner does up to 1200 dpi, but I usually just do it at 300, which still gives me a great size :)

just something to consider to upload your work. I do all my works on 10 x 15 watercolour sketchpad paper, but bigger than that and I can start to run into problems. I am sure there are probably bigger scanners you can buy too - I'd love to invest in a really high quality big one eventually so I can just scan and submit :)

In these example I actually printed the result bigger than the original piece, and if you zoom in you can see there is quite a lot of detail preserved - you can actually see the saturation of the ink on the paper and the imprints the original pencil lines made:

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Check out some of my other work to see the end results :)

---Shawn Dall
ShawnDall.com

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David King

8 Years Ago

I scan as well, I've never been able to get an acceptable digital copy using a camera.

 

Xueling Zou

8 Years Ago

I only a small scanner , but most of my artworks are much larger...

 

Xueling Zou

8 Years Ago

I only a small scanner , but most of my artworks are much larger...

 

David King

8 Years Ago

I use Panavue Image Assembly to stitch multiple scans together. It's quirky software, but it's free. It claims to do mosaics but I haven't been able to get it to do anything more than a single row so I've come up with workarounds. For example, a 16x20 requires 6 scans to get good overlap on my 9X12 scanner. I stitch the scans of the top row together, then stitch the scans of the bottom rows together, now I have two images. Then I rotate them so they'll from a row of two images and stitch those together into one full image, which I think rotate to the proper orientation in my images editing software and crop and adjust as needed.

 

Nancy Ingersoll

8 Years Ago

interesting. thanks for sharing your method.

 

Shawn Dall

8 Years Ago

Yeah for mine my scan bed is recessed to hold 8 1/2 x 11 so I put them on top but there is always a side that is warped because of the bevel - so I have to overlap parts, cut parts off, and eventually have something I am satisfied with.

It's cool to see so many other people using scanning too - I just wish larger scanners were cheaper!

---Shawn Dall
ShawnDall.com

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

i always recommend scanning. cameras vary too much. lighting, angle, etc - are all hard to do. the only time a camera is better is when you have texture and you need to side light it. a scanner tends to flatten a piece and you get no depth at all. and of course stitching is a pain.

i took an image that was about the size of my hand. and i made a couch sized print with it.

what always has amazed me is.... a painter etc, will take hours, if not weeks to make the perfect piece. then they shoot it with their phone, say, it looks good enough and uploads it here. wouldn't they want the image on the screen to look like the piece in their hands? or do they think someone will push a magic button and make it work?

scanners can scan more than paintings though. if you get into scanography, you can make entire scenes. i've seen some amazing things done with them. where they prop them up on their sides, and people arrange pictures in front of them. some paint right on the glass (don't do that btw). others like me, arrange the object on the glass, but dirt is an issue.

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these two were made by placing a fairly limp flower on the glass and arranging it with a soft brush.

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this took a long time to arrange then clean after. the image was about 4 times larger than this. i had to reduce it for size here.

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the scanner kills depth. this image is 1/2" thick or so, but its too evenly lit, and if you have peaks like a knife would do, it flattens them. if there is dimension, it often creates oblique angles that look odd as well. some materials may have rainbow effect when the light passes by. and if the image moves you'll have a ghost effect.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

 

David King

8 Years Ago

Sean, my scanner has a bevel too. I put a larger piece of glass on top to create a flat surface to put the art on. The extra pane of glass doesn't seem to effect the scan.

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

it may effect the contrast though, and it would also mess with the depth.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

 

David King

8 Years Ago

I can't see any difference either way Mike, I looked hard even. If the painting is larger than the scanner your going to have a depth issue regardless because you can't set the painting all the way down onto the bed. Anyway, I haven't noticed anything detrimental happening to my images from using another piece of glass.

 

Valerie Reeves

8 Years Ago

I work small, usually well under 8 x 10". The thing I love most about scanning is that the image can now be printed out beautifully at a much larger size than I am comfortable working.

 

Shawn Dall

8 Years Ago

my scanner is a pain in that I cannot remove the lid - on my old scanner I could which allowed me to scan bigger things. All my pieces are 14" x 17" - that's just the size of the sketchpads I use - anything bigger and it's too big to scan. I usually lay my piece into the corner of the scan window and then put a big sketch pad on top of the image with the lid up - the lid is only there to provide a bg for the light.

because the light scans everything uniformly you are not going to get depth because every micrometer is lit - this can also cause weird lighting effects on your art - esp. if you use shiny mediums - that is why my scanner is specialty glare reduced, so I don't have to worry about that. I don't use the lid though because it has this like box thing on it to press scans into the bevel, and that causes indentations in the paper I discovered. Why they can't just have a flatbed scanner that scans anything bigger than a letter size that doesn't cost a fortune is silly imo, but I get why.. most people just wanna scan documents, and a corporate scanner is going to give you horrible quality output.

I do believe scanning is an art within itself though - as it takes a long time to get it looking good and the colours looking like the original I find. Also looking at your art in different lights will also change how it looks. I find taking a picture of my work, the piece never looks as good lighting wise - even if the lighting on the pic is stellar - photography can be good for people, but not for the nuances of an art piece, esp. if you are a detail oriented artist such as myself.

---Shawn Dall
ShawnDall.com

 

Stacey Brown

8 Years Ago

I have a fancy new Epson Perfection V600 scanner. I'm trying to figure out how to scan my paintings best. Does anyone else use this printer? Should I scan on auto/home/office/professional setting?

And, this thing can be set for really high dpi. What is the best dpi for small paintings that can be printed in larger format?

Thanks in advance for your help. I'm just getting set up over here.

Stacey Brown


 

David King

8 Years Ago

I have the V500, just an older version of the same thing I'm guessing. I use the pro settings so I can adjust it as necessary. I find I need to tone down the blue range a bit to get a more accurate scan on mine. I just scan at 300 dpi which produces an image which on FAA will give you a print up to 300% larger than the original. I personally won't offer anything scaled up larger than 300%, but there are other artists here who offer much bigger enlargements so that's a personal choice. I also scan to TIF rather than JPG. I make any further necessary adjustments in TIF format before I save it as a JPG (highest quality setting) for uploading to FAA.

 

Islander Images

8 Years Ago

Shawn, you might look at the Epson WorkForce WF-7510. It's just a multipurpose unit with scanner, but it has a 13" x 19" scan bed, it uses LED instead of fluorescent, you get a wide-format printer with it, and it's cheap. I had Epson's top of the line tabloid scanner, over $2,000, but I sold it because this unit gives me more accurate color, with no need for correction. You can download Epson Scan, which is better than what comes with the printer, but I'm using VueScan instead.

 

Gay Pautz

8 Years Ago

Small paintings or photographs may scan well. But when a painting does not fit on a scanner because of the size, you would need to stitch the multiple scans together. More difficult imo than using a camera.

 

David King

8 Years Ago

"More difficult imo than using a camera."

Not for me, no matter what I tried I couldn't get an acceptable reproduction using a camera. I scan 16X20's in six scans. The scans take about ten minutes to do. The stitching using PanaVue Image Assembler takes maybe another ten minutes, for a total of 20 minutes to do a scan. Setting up the painting on an easel or a wall and the camera on a tripod wherever you have perfect conditions for it (outside under north light?) and then setting the white balance and taking the photos then taking all that back down has to take at least 20 minutes total.

 

Gay Pautz

8 Years Ago

I will try this Panavue, in the past I have used another program for stitching my painting scans together, and it wasn't easy. I downloaded the free copy.

 

David King

8 Years Ago

The mosaic stitch feature in Panavue doesn't work the way it should. For example the 16x20 requires 6 scans, which is two rows of three scans. I can't get Panavue to handle multiple rows however even though that's what mosaic stitching is supposed to do. So, what I do is I just stitch the images in each row (you have to make sure they are in a left to right order as well) in separate stitching operations to create two images, one for each row of scans, then I rotate the two images so that they now form a row and stitch them together to make one complete image that I can then manipulate and edit as needed. It's a bit quirky but it works and is free.

 

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