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Mario Carta

8 Years Ago

Question About 3d Art Conversions

I was thinking about reshooting some of my small sculptures and then converting the photographs into 3D renderings, I don't know much about this process but I was looking at some video's explaning how it can be done in photoshop cs6 which I have. But nothing about it looks easy, my question does anyone know of an easy way to accomplish this and once converted are the file types compatible with FAA? Would such a rendering look more realistic than a photograph or digitally enhanced photograph? Capturing the essence of a sculpture in a photograph leaves a lot to be desired.

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Mark Blauhoefer

8 Years Ago

I've never tried it, thought about it, but not gone there.

My guess would be to follow the steps in the video and create an action as you go, which the next time should make it relatively easy because you'd only have to run it on automatic.

 

Vanessa Bates

8 Years Ago

Are you speaking about depth maps? In which case would you be printing a hologram? Or are you planning to create a printable model? For the latter you might have to have your piece 3d scanned.

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

i think you have to physically make it in the program. it doesn't just convert. unless you had some kind of 3d scanning laser. and that's costly. there is ways to do it in grey scale, but it needs good lighting and depth, and it won't be a cut out, more like a relief.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

 

Vanessa Bates

8 Years Ago

Mike, if he's working with his existing 3d sculptures, the laser scanner is exactly what I'm talking about. Regarding the "gray scale", that would be the process using depth maps.

 

Mario Carta

8 Years Ago

What I am referring to is when a regular photo that has a certain kind of a single image, like let's say a single sculpture and the image is cutout removing it's background. Then opening the 3d mode in photoshop the image is extruded and raised from 2d to 3d, not to send to a 3d printer but to give it that 3d look on the screen when viewed.

 

Vanessa Bates

8 Years Ago

I haven't worked much with that aspect of photoshop (just a few experiments), but I would think there would be too many variables to make an action for any of it.

Maybe someone else would think of better applications, but if you're not printing it out the only two uses I could see would be
1. As a an interactive catalog item on your website
2. As an art instillation with interactive properties.

I've only seen someone hang a screen a few times in my area. Once was to display a demo of the digital process and once as something that tripped after walking by a motion sensor. If money were no object: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXLq8LAtaE0. I have no idea how the grid reads what it does, but it's pretty interesting to watch.

 

Mario Carta

8 Years Ago

That's pretty cool Vanessa, what I have in mind though is not on that level. Lol I just was reading reading reviews on my camera and it had a ranking for it's 3d capabilities, now I'm trying to figure what does a 3d photo from a camera look like?

 

Vanessa Bates

8 Years Ago

Wow! I think a photographer needs to step in since I had no idea they existed before you mentioned it.

P.S. Maybe you would use it like they did in this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G26hmJt-Zi4

There is someone here that posts 3d images that may be viewed through glasses, but I can't remember who.

 

Mario Carta

8 Years Ago

Yes, Vanessa and now I'm even more confused then ever, but if I can't figure out if my camera really has 3d mode then I want one to get a 3d camera, even a cheap one.

 

Vanessa Bates

8 Years Ago

Maybe you would use it like they did in this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G26hmJt-Zi4

There is someone here that posts 3d images that may be viewed through glasses, but I can't remember who.

 

David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

Mario,

I am in Vanessa's boat just played with 3D a couple of times. You need much more extensive training to work in the PS 3D.

Is the camera 3D for use with 3D printers? Or for use with 3D imaging in PS?

You would need to know that basic fact first.

Dave

 

Mario Carta

8 Years Ago

Here is a 3d stereo pinhole camera, it's probably something different from what I'm talking about, but it only cost $34, very cool.



http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=762676&gclid=CKDd94rsvMcCFYEYHwodzOMItA&is=REG&m=Y&Q=&A=details

 

Mario Carta

8 Years Ago

Dave, by know you should know I never put things first that should be first, Lol I want to get to the honey hole right away.

 

Mario Carta

8 Years Ago

But, in all seriousness, yes, I need to understand the tech first, I'm just curious at this point.

 

Greg Jackson

8 Years Ago

"There is someone here that posts 3d images that may be viewed through glasses, but I can't remember who."

Vanessa, I believe that is Brian Wallace that does that as I recall.

 

Mario Carta

8 Years Ago

So this more or less what I would like to do with my sculptures, kind of.

 

Vanessa Bates

8 Years Ago

Thanks, Greg!

Mario, that's a parallax effect done with layers of 2d images — the video above shows it is definitely a skill onto itself.

p.s. here's a video with a tutorial.



p.s.s. I'm guessing quite a few 2d animators feel a little less forgotten right now :)

 

Mario Carta

8 Years Ago

Vanessa, I see that's one way with parallax, but I think this method will work better for my sculptures because I don't really want other objects in my image to distract from the sculpture. This is the video that got me interested.

 

Vanessa Bates

8 Years Ago

Nice! It doesn't look easy, though. Do you have video on your camera as well? If you have a tripod, couldn't you still give the viewer a nice rotating effect that way? People in jewelry design might be able to tell you how to stage it so you don't have any background interference.

 

Sydne Archambault

8 Years Ago

Here is Brians link to his group Mario, it might be a good place for you to join.
http://fineartamerica.com/groups/oof--out-of-frame.html?tab=overview

 

David Bridburg

8 Years Ago

Mario,

Great find, the most I have ever learned about PS 3D

Dave

 

Mario Carta

8 Years Ago

Vanessa, no,not easy by any stretch of the imagination. But nothing worth while ever is.

Thanks Sydne, I'll check it out.

Dave, that's great, nothing I like better than sharing something that may help others out. I have learned so much here from casual discussions on topics, invaluable, it doesn't compare with just googling something.

 

Mark Blauhoefer

8 Years Ago

Oh, 3D glasses stuff. There's actually a free software program that does it from a single image - I have it on my back up drive but can't remember the name of it, so just google until you find it. I fiddled with it, but didn't take it seriously. It works by a subtle distortion to the left and right edges the same as a 3D converter in televisions.

As for cutting out the image to put it on a black background - you use the smart selection tool to select just the object you want, which depending on complexity can be a little time consuming, but once you have it select inverse and fill with black, or copy it and paste it into a black image.

(Thei in-camera 3D is a grid guide to show the 3 inches from left or right in which to take the second shot, unless they're using the converter method)

 

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