Big Money For Worst Work

Danl,

Did Robert Longo ask you to start this thread? Does he need our opinions?

It seems I can not get anything for any of my work. That does not stop me.

What we have is our future.

Dave

I love this whole, weirdly uncomfortable series. Assuming money was no object, I'd pay ridiculous amounts to get my hands on the 'Men in the Cities' pieces. No worst work here!

I can't get anything for my best work, let alone the worst. ;) I remain optimistic. Truly, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, that philosophy isn't changing any time soon.

HL Mencken - "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public."

Not much for my best and rarely that. My worst doesn't get put up for sale. I don't know about this Robert Longo guy but you appear to not care for his work.

My work must be priceless,..??????

Danl, have you decided this is Longo's worst work?
According to the fact that it was used as a giant wall facade to advertise one of his retrospective exhibitions in Europe, I'd say more than one person thinks otherwise.

There is no correlation to be made between a name brand artist with auction history and an unknown.

Wendy-

I would venture to say that if an FAA member did this piece and asked for a critique, the criticisms would be abundant. "Bad cropping. Out of focus. Off center. Washed Out. To dark. Etc"

If the FAA member was asking $25,000, would you buy it?

@JohnWills, keep smiling......

Dave

Successful branding. Some people pay $100+ for a pair of jeans, I'm happy with my $18 Wranglers.

Yeah, because I'm in the habit of dropping $25K out of the blue on an artist with no track record.

I'm having deja vu. Have we had this conversation before? It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

My opinion that fineartamerica reminds cheap retail sale venue. What do you think? As for this piece it may be inspiring and if buyer is inspired he will pay. The question is what and whom some photo may inspire plus you need to be in the right place and at the right time.

oh yes, Valerie...over and over again.
Maybe this is one of those threads that Abbie will be closing, based on new rules.

p.s.
Danl, when your resume reads like Longo's ( almost 40 years of international solo exhibitions),
then we'll talk.

....the endless question......

Marlene-

There is only one venue to this discussion:

The art itself.

One must separate himself or herself from judging art based on the notoriety or non-notoriety of the artist.

The art itself is the product of the artist's process. Other pieces in this series matter. Other exhibitions and retrospectives of his work matter. When this offering was the culmination of his life's work to date, it mattered.
If you want to have any other meaningful conversation...oh, never mind...I can't see that as your intention.

No painting selling for $25K is divorced from the background of the artist. Unless its a house painting job.

MD certainly knows this. Its just a baiting exercise.

Danl,

I am not bitter.

Dave

ED, that is true. When I use the term "brand" I'm not necessarily using it in a negative way. The reality is to get a premium price for any product the company has to have a well developed brand, and that branding may or may not have anything to do with quality.

Monsieur Danl I like your work but you are not Robert Longo. If someone is willing to pay 25K for that more power to Robert.

Danl, I had an instant reaction to these images the very first time I ever saw them. I didn't know who Longo was then; I had to look him up at the public library. It wasn't about him; it was about the images. It still is.

If I felt that way and could afford it -- yes, I'd buy them from an FAA member, or off eBay, or from a guy on a street corner. I can't speak from experience, but imagine that would be one of the great joys of having lots of money.

I'm not in the habit of acquiring treasures on the basis of popular opinion (unless that opinion happens to mirror my own), so the potentially negative forum critiques would not influence me. Forum critiques are not my thing anyway, so . . .

The consensus seems to say that the Longo image is worth $25,000, regardless of fact that there is no name signed or printed on the image.

Out numbered again.

I thought this was about our work?

"How much can you get for your worst work? "

Mine's all priced by size.

Edward-

I get the same price for my worst as I do for my "worstest".

Oooops, just dropped my olive.

lol

Why should the notoriety of the artist be separated from the value put on the art as you have suggested Danl. Thats part of the provenance.

As has been said, its worth what someone is willing to pay, its that simple. And i am sure a big part of that willingness to pay is the desire to own a piece by Longo.

Now if that same person would just stop by my gallery...

Worst is in the eye of the beholder as they say.

Who offered the price 25.000 $ for this photo? Was it a buyer or seller who set such a price? Also sometimes resellers can get more money for a piece of art than the artist himself?

Usually the artist sets the price and the auction house takes a cut off the top. Knowledgeable re-sellers and artists will set the price based on similar works. The uninformed will sell the piece for the price of the frame. Who's selling is usually the key in making a smart investment. But knowing and researching a piece is essential before ever buying.

I have never heard of Robert Longo. Is this a photo or a painting? If its a painting its very good! Regardless, if someone is willing to give Mr. Longo 25 grand, good for him!

Derek

Robert Longo is an American painter and sculptor. His work is inspired by comic book characters.

any thing is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. art is very subjective - and there is no aesthetic to it at all - except in the eye of the beholder.

$31 K on Ebay.- All sales are final . http://www.ebay.com/itm/LAST-ONE-Fabulous-Robert-Longo-Rick-Lithograph-Hand-Signed-/251938664354?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

PAPER SIZE: 46" x 30" INCHES

Artist: Robert Longo
Title: Rick
Year: 1994
Medium: Lithograph, signed and numbered in pencil
Edition: 170
Size: 46 x 30 inches (117 x 76 cm)

Justin,

Re:.."Why should the notoriety of the artist be separated from the value put on the art...? "

I'm going one step further with this question

Why should the notoriety of an owner of a piece of art be separated from the value put on the art ?

Case in point

A number of years back, when I was doing an outdoor art show on Central Park South, NYC, a passerby's jaws dropped .

" You make these things?", he asked

I nodded "yes"

Hard to get the words out he tells me, " I just bought one of your pieces at Sotheby's , paying a hell of a lot more, than what you are selling them for..And it was broken, none the less."

He wouldn't go any further.


I must assume it must have been an Estate sale of some noted individual.

I know that a number of famous people had own my work..Cap't Kangaroo to Jim Henson......Patch Adams to Charles Addams and many more.

And with all the "Thumbs Up" I've received,throughout the years, I believe that there must be others that sent representatives to buy


So who is it in this case? I have no clue.

Cool Roger! I guess its a question of how easily the sales data is available to potential buyers. Artists regularly sold at auction have a price history available to collectors.

Buyer beware right? You buy something on vacation in a fancy Lahina or Las Vegas gallery after a few cocktails and then go on ArtBrokerage.com and find out that 400 other people are trying to unload what you just bought.

Edward,

Re:.." people are trying to unload what you just bought."

The converse, to what I had just related. is also true

For throughout all these years, I've heard many times how people had seen my work at yard sales....