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Stephen Kutos

8 Years Ago

Manners

At the risk of being called trite and irrelevant, I would like to bring up something that bothers me. As the administrator of three groups, I find that many of the people whom I feature on the home page never say thank you. It is true that I often don't indulge my self in the practice of making big announcements about the choice as I think it's about the artist and not about me or the group. I feel the inclusion of a submitted work says it all. So I'm finding that the lack of a short (two word) acknowledgement or thanks. For me it's as though the artist is saying that "of course my work is featured...I'm so worth it. Of course it's possible that I am giving too much importance for that stony silence, but I'm always in for a little more civility in our lives. Now before the trolls who live under the bridge in my garden come rushing forth with god knows what responses....relax! I'm only asking for a bit more courtesy.

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Jessica Jenney

8 Years Ago

I'm not a member of your groups but do you send out group emails about the new features? I guess people belong to so many groups, it would take all day to thank each group administrator.

 

Mike Savad

8 Years Ago

here's the thing - i get dozens of features a day sometimes. i have no idea i even have them. if your featuring only to get a thanks - then you may be in the wrong business. do it because you think they are good, not because you think you'll get high praise from people. i really wish groups would stop having thank you threads and have real ones. the forums for groups seems to me more about praising the op with a blessing of thanks and that's it. i hardly ever even go back to those forums any more.

currently i'm in over 1200 groups. it would take me all day to praise them. feature it or don't...


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i find it rude and bad manners to close a thread about manners just to have the last word....

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

 

Sharon Cummings

8 Years Ago

I do not expect thank you's when I feature in my groups. I do it because I want to/the work stands out/etc.....no thanks needed. Some people do thank me and some promote my work when I feature them, but I never ask, nor do I care if they don't. Life is just too short...There is so much to do online that I focus on other things.

 

Patricia Strand

8 Years Ago

How do you want to be thanked?

Do you have a Thank You thread in the group discussions? I would never post a separate discussion to thank admins, but if you had a thank you thread opened, I would do it there.

I try to promote the work of the admin in appreciation, and I post a thank you in the comment section of my featured piece. If you make a comment on the piece that you featured, the artist could reply with a thanks there.

There are different ways to do it, so you'd need to make your preference known to the group.

 

Andee Design

8 Years Ago

When I get a group feature I thank the group in a comment on the image it was given and name the group for the feature.

 

David King

8 Years Ago

There are a couple group administers that will leave a comment on my image telling me I was featured, I reply to their comment there with a thank you. I honestly only get on the group sites to submit artwork, and I rarely do that anymore.

 

Joseph C Hinson

8 Years Ago

As a group admin, I do not want a thank you. That's not why I have the group and it's not why I feature folks images. The last thing I want a member to do is to start a discussion on the group page thanking me. Some groups have literally dozens of these dscussions filling up the pages. So I don't want a expect a thank you either there or to me personally.

On the occassion when a group admin thanks me for putting my image in their group under the picture, I usually grin and bear it. I'm not a fan of those comments either. Make a comment about the actual photograph and I'll thank you for those. Make a comment that's really just an advertisement for your group and I won't.

Wow. Talk about manners.

 

Lois Bryan

8 Years Ago

I'll step up to the plate on this one, too.

Stephen, I will tell you that I'm very fortunate in that I've been known to get some features on my stuff, too ... and I have to tell you, I used to spend quite a bit of time ... a lot of time ... saying thank you to group hosts and logging in the features right on each image every day. I did this for years. But ... life gets in the way ... and it all got away from me about a year or two ago (had some personal things happen that weren't very nice and a LOT of things got away from me during that time). So ... I've had to give up this practice ... to the detriment of myself, too, as only 3 feature notices remain on our images now (I think it used to be that all of them, with a link back to the featuring group, were included ... but I might be wrong). So ... by not thanking the hosts and including the group name, I'm hurting myself, possibly, in the eyes of potential purchasers.

As to what you may also be saying, which is adding a thank you to the host of each group in a discussion thread, a great many of the hosts have repeatedly asked that we not do this.

Since I'm in roughly 340 groups, it would be pretty hard to remember which groups don't want thank-yous in their discussion threads, and which do.

And by the way, this goes for our group hosts who go on vacation or whatever and ask us not to submit while they're gone. I'm so sorry .. I know I've really stepped on some toes in that category as well ... so let this be my apology ... but I can't keep up with who's on first, so to speak. I'm gettin' old, lol!!! But also I'd like to take this opportunity to express my most sincere thanks for all that the group hosts do for us. I've never hosted a group, but I have a pretty good imagination, and I can't begin to think that the strum and drang you must go through with some of our members is worth it ... but you guys continue to help us and help promote us ... and I for one truly do appreciate it.

Even if I don't send out a thank you anymore.

Hope this helps you to understand where some of us might be coming from, Stephen.

 

Stephen Kutos

8 Years Ago

I see the trolls have made it out from under the bridge. For those of yo7u who have tried to turn this into something that I want or need...well, think again again. Manners exist to make society work better. One of the respondents on this thread has perhaps the worst manners I've encountered. No wonder they want to turn this around. No matter what anyone says, a simple two word phrase.. thank you...or just thanks is the human thing to do. Life, I hope isn't the Jersey Shore.

 

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