Scientific Proof God Exist.

Well for heavens sake your back Mario! So much for peace and quiet around here! 0:

Hi Mario...

Oh.. but Mario.. yours had better music. ;O)

Yes Bob, better music and it was shorter. lol

@Sydne, yes I am back from my forced vacation, I gotta say I did get far on my new bathroom construction. But peace is not out of the question just because I'm around here,but quiet might be a different story.

Well then your forced vacation worked out for you. Let's try for peace and I won't go get my jaws tight if it's not quiet.(;

I'm all for peace, actually I'm all for the prince of peace.

I'm all for Prince and his Little Red Corvette!

You mean that purple rain guy from Minneapolis?

Oh yea, and his strawberry beret LOL

why do I know that ;O)

Is that the artist formerly known as Prince of Peace?

No Prince of Peace is a song by Leon Russell.

Jane Russell was Leon"s sister who needed extra support......right?

LOL.. Wow... you are old LOL

Raspberry Beret

Oh yea... raspberry... that sounds more correct... or is that more correcter ;O)

Bob just remember seeing the set on the set that got a lift and seperation.

My turn to LMAO!

Well... I should talk.. I knew who you were referring to... ;O)

Little boys remember things like those,,..i.mean like that.....
Btw scientists did discover the Higgs boson or Higgs particle at cern a few years back...

And.......???

The "god" partical!
Blasphemous.....just plain blasphemous....

hmmmm...

yea I never got the connection of god and the boson.

Blasphemy..... Now that was a good book.....not to get confused with The Good Book!

If God exists, he's a bitch.

She just might be. (wink,grin)

The Higgs-Boston particle is hard for me to wrap my mind around, but here is an article that keeps it simple.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/higgs-boson.htm

Good question Patrick, I could make a guess, all things come back to the starting and end point, 0?

My, my......now we are calling GOD names. Well, I'm not hearing it. Have a nice day.

Why in blue-blazes would I NOT call something in which I do not believe, every name in the book?

That's right, you asked for it!

The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

You're welcome!

Maybe out of respect for other people? Most wouldn't call a person's mother names and for most religious people that is pretty much the same thing.

if you believe we are self-created somehow that is fine, but that also means that, following your logic, we can call everybody names regardless since we are the creator of our own (like our own spontaneous god) and that we, as self-created beings, are far worse than any god you can think of or don't believe in

Oh Patrick, if you have a need to call "Something You Don't Believe names" you need to go see the head doctor, he can explain better why that's such a crazy and futile activity to engage in.

Very Intriguing article,
Two scientists have formalized a theorem regarding the existence of God penned by mathematician Kurt Gödel. But the God angle is somewhat of a red herring -- the real step forward is the example it sets of how computers can make scientific progress simpler.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/scientists-use-computer-to-mathematically-prove-goedel-god-theorem-a-928668.html

Yes... that is what computer do best. But of course they have to be programmed to their work, and of course humans are still doing the programming... so.... well the program is only as good as the programmers. That is changing however...

I found it very interesting and also Kurt Gödel who was a close friend of Albert Einstein surprised me.

Here is a link to Kurt Godels theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gödel%27s_ontological_proof

This is a good book by Douglas R. Hofstadter

Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid

http://www.amazon.com/G%C3%B6del-Escher-Bach-Eternal-Golden/dp/0465026567

grrr.. one of those links you have to copy and paste to your browser.. Hey Sean... fix this! LOL

Have you read it Bob?

Yes.. but like.. 10+ years ago.
I had a little trouble with some of it back then... but I did find it very enlightening and interesting.. I do have a paperback copy here somewhere.. I guess it is time for a re-read. ;O)

About the above book Bob recommends
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gödel,_Escher,_Bach

LOL... clicking on the like you provided tells my the history of the letter G... who knew

Copy and paste the whole link and paste to your brower.. LOL but do check out the history of the letter G..

Seriously?O: The history of G.....

It appears the Letter G has never married.

I can simply say.... wow! My head spins

Hey Yvonne so good to see you! And yes it makes my brain hurt....but....

Yvonne... that's good.. it means you are using it LOL

Because this fits i'm posting this on two threads this one and the movie thread...

i watched 'The Artist and the Model’ a 2012 French language Spanish film about an elderly (90 year old) sculptor in the south of France. iIt takes place in the summer of 1943 a safe distance from the War. He seems to be near the end of his life and of his art. One day, his wife gives shelter to a young Spanish woman, a political refugee. The sculptor soon understands that the girl, who agrees to pose for him, inspires him and that he has no choice but to embark on this last artistic (and sensual) adventure…

It’s kind of a poetic movie about the existence of beauty and meaning in art, and in the life of an artist. One of the film's points may be that there's nothing superficial about the surfaces of things, and that’s especially true with human beings…

There is a scene near the end of the film where they lunch alfresco and he tells the model that there are only two things that confirm the existence of God… and that his paintings and sculptures of women in repose amount to a testament to the "first thing.” He explains himself further by he re-telling the story of Adam and Eve in what sounds like an even more male chauvinist light than the Old Testament version. In his re-imagining, God crafted Eve as his perfect companion and Adam was merely their offspring. The way the sculptor tells it, we see that to him women are the essential creation, men merely utilitarian accessories.

The dialogue from that scene:
i had to transcribe while watching the movies... Whew and lol

Sculptor:
"There are two proofs that God exists, The first and most important, is the woman’s body. Genesis and all that is malarky. can you imagine God creating man? There is no need to make god look like a fool.
First he crafted the heavens.
He created Earth.
He created the oceans, seas and rivers.
He created plants and animals, birds and fish.
all this beauty… paradise.
Then he thought of creating a beautiful Being for himself.
A beautiful creature, a perfect one…
One to charter world with.
A Being to keep him company throughout eternity
unending and probably boring.
Someone to embrace the winter,
and whose skin could be caressed in summer.
He created woman… and called her Eve."

Model:
"And what about Adam?"

Sculptor:
"God and Eve had a son and they called him Adam.
He only forbid them one-thing.
He forbid Adam from sleeping with his mother.
But he caught them in the middle of…
well… he caught them.
That was the Original Sin.
That’s why God abandoned us.
He realized couldn’t count on us
or that we weren’t worthy his trust
And he banished them from Paradise.”

Model:
“That’s why you only do naked women?”

Sculptor:
“Probably…
We menace no more than an accident, accessories…
Women however are the first form…
the essential form.”

A momentary pause…

Model
“So I’m Eve? ( she bites into an apple and youthfully laughs)

Sculptor:
“You understand nothing”

Model:
“And the second proof?”

Sculptor:
Of what?”

Model:
“That God exists”

Sculptor drizzles olive oil on his fingers and licks it.
“Oil, Olive Oil…"

Olive Oil......yes!

I'll have what she's having.... - "from When Harry Met Sally"

Oh what a twisted creature we humans are!

I think the sculptor's response to the model's question - "And the second proof . . . that God exists," should have been, "Chocolate."

I enjoyed this little parable of a scene, as retold by Ed; while it was pure fantasy, there were gallons of truth in it.

Beautiful find, Ed.

thanks for mentioning the scene, Ed...looks like an excellent movie...nice feel! ;)

It does look like an excellent movie. Claudia Cardinale is in it, I haven't seen her in years! She was in one of my favorite films, Once Upon a Time in the West.