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Dan Carmichael

9 Years Ago

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How well does google parse keywords - hyphenated vs. non-hyphenated?

Example with domain name and page title:

oilpainting.com vs. oil-painting.com
and
oilpainting.html vs. oil-painting.html

Will google parse the non-hyphenated versions and give equal weight to all?

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Jessica Jenney

9 Years Ago

Mike?

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

as far as i know the google is more intelligent than any human. and it will parse the line fine. it will find it in many languages, and everything else. however - humans are stupid, and they won't add the hyphen at all, and they will never find your page if you put extra characters in it. so whenever you can, don't add extra work for people. when i spell things out i would do it like OilPainting.com


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com


just like i do with my name.

 

Dan Carmichael

9 Years Ago

Humans? Stupid? Why, Mike. What a surprise! And as many times I've heard you express how much you love people !! LOL.

You know what, you're right. I was focusing so hard on the machine side of SEO that I forgot all about the human side. I. myself, parse the names. But one has to work at it to do it.

Problem is that the CapAndNoCap stuff does not work as well for domain names as it does for page titles. I guess I'll have to figure out what to do there. Thanks.

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

but its true. no one would think to add a line in the center of the words.

i've seen trucks with their name on the side, expecting people to find them online:


WePackBoxesAndTrucksToMakeYouHappyAtMikesMovingService.com

if your lucky they add the caps, but they make these insane long things to type, or misspell it, or add dashes or other things or have one of those .me .xxx .mike places that no one will type.

you might just stick with your name, chance not many will have it.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

 

Dan Carmichael

9 Years Ago

Already got my name a few ways. Working on something else.

But you're right about domain name length. Doesn't matter whether hyphenated or not, whether "capped" or not, long domain titles are a no-no.

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

.gov .org .net - confuses everyone.

nasa.gov - kids go there
nasa.com - was a porn site for a little while - kids went there as well, and learned about new things.

i think a good way to approve a name is to verbally tell someone that name, and see if they get it right.

i only use the caps to break up the word making it easier to read.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

 

Floyd Snyder

9 Years Ago


Google is going to find it eitherway. It is the general public that will be easily confused.

I see people enter they webpages as Floyd_Snyder.com, or floyd-snyder.ocm. If floydsnyder is taken then maybe the _ or the - is what you are left with.

Another thing that I see people do is not use caps because Google not the net needs them But "people" do.

One of my websites is framehousegallery.com and I have several emails accounts at that domain name. floyd@framehousegallery.com, sales@framehousegallery.com, and others.

I have been using Network Solutions for years and years. My rep told me years ago to make sure I use caps: Floyd@FrameHouseGallery.com. Makes so much easier for the person having to type that in.

Same thing with Floyd@ FASGallery.com.

The net including Google and other search engines doesn't care if you use the caps, but people do.

 

Frank J Casella

9 Years Ago

The general rule is to insert the hyphen in addresses you'll share links to online ... so humans can read it with three-second impact. If you give out the address for humans to type in the caps rule is better. Google and the other SE's will find it any way. Hope this is helpful to you.

 

Roger Swezey

9 Years Ago

Dan,

Re:.."But you're right about domain name length. Doesn't matter whether hyphenated or not, whether "capped" or not, long domain titles are a no-no."

For some unknown reason this popped into my head:..maryhadalittlelamb.com

Checked it out...And sure enough, someone has it,

BUT

are offering it for sale.


I've had ...ratsbatsvultures.com for years now, (which is not being kept up)

I felt at the time, that it said all that I was about

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

on first glance i read that as - rabbivultures.com even staring at it, i seem to be leaving out the bats. hard to know what i would remember down the line. it becomes bad when a long url spells something else as one word. and they tend to look like a spell of some kind. also people type without looking at the screen, just pecking away at keys, if you leave out just one letter, it won't go any where, or worse you'll end up in the other persons page. all because there were 3 e's and one was left out - hard to proof read them typed in.

the other mistake is when people start adding things.... mikesavad.com/whatever/carrots_for_you/myartwork and place that as their url or even on cards. --- no one will type the extra stuff.... its also the reason you get a vanity url - because that's how the artist websites look.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

 

Dan Turner

9 Years Ago

It is increasingly difficult to get short meaningful domain names, but short isn't always better. Domain names can be of any length up to 67 characters. If they make sense, longer domain names are easier on the human memory. If you manage to include keywords, they are better for humans and SEO.

For instance, ChicagoDiscountPillowGallery.com would be better than cdpg.com


Dan Turner
Dan Turner's Seven Keys to Selling Art Online

 

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