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KP HURT

9 Years Ago

Ip Filtering & True Visitors

As a suggestion can we get FAA to start implementing IP filters to stop the bots / servers from showing up as Visitors on our websites / photo counts. It promotes a false inflated sense that were actually getting true customer visits. I would like to see this option done or hear from the tech ops folks @ FAA on such. Thanks!

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VIVA Anderson

9 Years Ago

http://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=2429809


I agree with you, very much. This has been raised by members ad nauseum, nothing changes. But, if you're upset, just tell Tech Support......it's what I do, regularly.

But then....even a simple link doesn't work, here (above)......sigh.......

 

Gregory Scott

9 Years Ago

The site already filters IPs somehow. The question in my mind is how.
It may be that somewhere there is a bot registry, and these are used for filtering.
Or more likely, bots self-register by setting some flag when they "browse", which the site can detect and filter.
My supposition is the second case.
Anyway, it seems obvious that some ill-behaved bots do not conform to the standard, whatever that may be, and thus are not automatically excluded.

With this assumption, it would be nice if there were a secondary filtering condition, maintained manually, where detected bots are excluded.
A log analysis program could have certain criteria. An IP with an inhuman number of visits could be excluded, retroactively as a bot.

What would be the result? The result would be people complaining that their view counts were suddenly decreasing.
No amount of instruction would help that problem. People would still be suspicious of the view reporting system for "stealing" their views.
New users would continually generate the issue as old users became aware of the cause.

Views are a pretty terrible metric anyway. Comments and SALES are much more meaningful.
If you want detailed metrics, you need your own, truly own, website, since all your SEO is hogged by Pixels/FAA, and is not left to Artistwebsites.

Just my opinion, and obviously I don't know the whole story, and am just inferring based on partial knowledge and indirect evidence.

 

Pamela Patch

9 Years Ago


Watch your stats often enough and you will be able to determine bots, members and unique viewers.

 

Joseph C Hinson

9 Years Ago

People tell me I'm apathetic toward bots, but really, I don't care.

 

Marlene Burns

9 Years Ago

ain't gonna happen...I've been asking for 5 years.
Just know that your visitor count is really just hits.....and useless.

 

KP HURT

9 Years Ago

I hear all of you and being a DB admin I know it can be done and FAA would most likely would get flack as one person said, view counts will go way down, ( devil in the details here ) but I guess FAA has some of the best hosting for 30 bucks and as in the xfiles--"Are you seriously telling me you called up the Devil and expected him to behave" FAA if your reading this, if google can do it so can you https://plus.google.com/+GoogleAnalytics/posts/2tJ79CkfnZk

 

Loree Johnson

9 Years Ago

No matter how it's implemented, it's not going to please people. I once asked how it was possible for something to be sold without a view. (I saw such a piece on the recently sold page.) Sean explained that there are some ip addresses that the system cannot determine a location for. In the past, these were logged as visits by "unknown location." People freaked out that "unknown location" was visiting their work. So, those visits no longer report. As Gregory said, visits matter little, but change how it's reported and people are sure to complain.

 

Abbie Shores

9 Years Ago

Use the Google Analytics that are available on the premium site for accurate statistics there

 

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