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John Crothers

9 Years Ago

Are You Charles Schulz Or Bill Watterson?

This is not a discussion about the work of these artist or other cartoonist. Rather it is how they handled their creations.

Schulz seemed to license his "Peanuts" characters to anyone and everyone. From classic TV shows, to stuffed animals, to selling Met Life insurance.

Watterson on the other hand, according to a documentary I watched about him, has refused to license "Calvin and Hobbes" with some estimates coming in at a loss of revenue to him of close to 100 million dollars.

Watterson seemed to fight the commercialization of his work at all cost. Schulz seemed to embrace making every dollar he could from his.

What camp are you in? All or noting. No middle ground. Would you treat your body of work like Schulz or Watterson?

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Edward Fielding

9 Years Ago

At some point the money becomes so abstract. Watterson must feel secure enough to stop working and protect his creation. He probably saw how the Peanuts licensing seems to have no limits. Some of the lesser seen TV specials are terrible - so cheaply done. And cartoonists must develop a feeling of family for their characters.

I don't have that strong of attachment to my work so I'd say I'd go with Schultz. At least at this point.

 

JC Findley

9 Years Ago

Shultz.

Though I highly respect Watterson for what he did and stopped getting the paper when he stopped making new strips.

 

John Crothers

9 Years Ago

I guess I will answer my own question.

Schultz...of course.

But, like JC, I do admire Watterson for his refusal to cheapen his babies. Though I really hated to see his strip end. That, to me, was the day the comics died.

 

Roger Swezey

9 Years Ago

Shulz

And maybe someday I'll be able to have a Feral Coot Song Worm to inflict on the masses

 

Call me Charlie! ;-)

 

Peggy Collins

9 Years Ago

My dad spent a couple of years as a comic strip artist and we named our family dog (a Schnauzer) Schulz after you know who. I'm in the Schulz club.

 

Sydne Archambault

9 Years Ago

I don't get it, if you admire Watterson for his stand, but everyone would definitely embrace Schulz's commercialization, which did him well..I am in Watterson's camp.

 

Rich Franco

9 Years Ago

If money wasn't an issue, what would YOU do? That really is the question.

Remove the money from the equation and then answer. Are you a "Walmarter" or s small independent Gallery kinda person. Do you like control of your art and how it's used or just the exposure?

Both were right in what they did, but one to me was "more righter"............

Rich

 

Joshua House

9 Years Ago

A third part of this question is, do you really want your creation to live on to piss on every religious and corporate logo for all of time? https://www.google.com/search?q=calvin+peeing+on&safe=active&biw=1184&bih=598&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=R9RzVJ_4L4GogwSAgIK4Cg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ if you don't defend your copyright you get what you get.

 

John Crothers

9 Years Ago

I think what people are saying Sydne is that everyone has their price. While it would be nice to not be a "sell-out" few people can afford not to be. Money IS important and a boat load of money is importener!

 

I don't even consider it 'selling out'. I make art for the same reason I write stories, and made music (once upon a time); I love the idea of sharing my creativity as far and wide as possible. 'Art' enriches my life, whether it be the largest and most expensive print or painting on my wall, or the vintage glass bowl I bought at the Salvation Army store, for two bucks.

Recently, on another venue, someone chose and purchased a dozen of my images . . . printed on mouse pads! I was excited by the idea that 12 people would look at one of my images, probably every day.

Beyond income for the artist, what else is art for, other than to be seen and appreciated? If anyone would like to license my images to print on umbrellas, or bow ties, or wallpaper -- or a jet -- please contact me using the readily available form on my website -- http://www.art166.net

That is all. ;-)

 

Thomas Zimmerman

9 Years Ago

MONEY! :)

 

Rich Franco

9 Years Ago

I think for many here,

It's whether you signed up for Designer Prints or not, is the real answer.............

Rich

 

Edward Fielding

9 Years Ago

Haven't seen the doc film but it kind of reminds me of J. D. Salinger or Bobby Fisher. As Rich says, once you are comfortable, then what would you do? How much is enough?

Of course, Schultz had his own hockey rink. That's kind of neat. ;-)

 

Lisa Kaiser

9 Years Ago

I really really want to be like Schultz because it's smart business. I also love the peanuts music... What's interesting is the other guy...I think

 

Melissa Herrin

9 Years Ago

tough call for me really.

 

Colin Utz

9 Years Ago

This decission is a luxury I canīt afford ...

 

Roy Erickson

9 Years Ago

I'm with Shultz - although I'm not a fan of Peanuts nor any cartoon. Suppose Disney had been Watterson?

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

it really depends on your vision. watterson may have made enough money not to have to deal with the commercial end. i know its a head ache. you lose control of where things go and such. i can't imagine hobbs toothpaste or something like that. and i really wonder how many he really lost, who came up to him? it was just a comic strip as far as i know. charlie brown had cartoon specials so people can identify with the characters better. the other one was a bit too deep, i can't see them being used on actual products. so i do wonder if that estimate is close to being accurate. or is it something the creator said to make it seem he was doing something special.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

 

Chuck De La Rosa

9 Years Ago

I don't think either approach is wrong. That said I personally would do it like Shultz.

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

the funny thing is - everyone always called kincaid a sell out because he put his art on everything. and yet people are in favor of snoopy. i bet if you asked others outside of this forum you would get that people liked snoopy and based it on that.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

 

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