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Carla Jo Bryant

9 Years Ago

Faa And Google Ad Discrepancy

Just an old Texas artist here giving this internet thing a go for. I have to say I am fascinated by all the truly exceptional photos and artwork here at FAA. Enough bush beating though, I don’t know where else to turn with my problem and I read the forums regularly trying to learn something from the pros so I thought I would give you guys a go. I have written two emails in the last week or so to whoever reads them with no reply so I am at my wits end here for someone to give me insight or wisdom concerning my problem.

My problem: I created a Christmas card and decided to do a little advertising on Adwords. At first my FAA visitors were great, almost astronomical. Then a little over a week ago visits just went down to nil or 1 or 2 any given day. Now my Google Analytics shows a completely different story. Visits might show 2 or 3 while Google analytic reports show maybe 200 or more on any given day. I don’t understand why there’s such a discrepancy. My Adwords would show large amounts of clicks also. I know that clicks, sessions, and visits are all different considerations but it just seems like something is amiss with such a large discrepancy. I talked to an Adwords rep and they said the problem was with FAA.

So here I am with all my advertising fees to pay , over 3,000 analytic sessions and Adword clicks in the last 2 weeks with not one sale (which is ok I guess , maybe my card is not so great looking after all), a bare minimum of FAA visits each day, and no one to help me with it. Is there anyone out there?

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Abbie Shores

9 Years Ago

The artist website google analytics shows artist website hits. Faa shows faa hits

 

Carla Jo Bryant

9 Years Ago

Could you possibly explain that answer in more detail? For some reason I'm not quite understanding. I thought the tracking code connected my website to Google analytics?

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

analytics only looks at the data from one website - the artist site. however i wouldn't trust adwords and analytics since it can feed you false data anyway.

also know that this week is thanksgiving so there will be far less traffic anyway.

also note that putting up an ad won't make sales. you might have to advertise for months and even then the customer will have to really want it.

---Mike Savad
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Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

and in the end your card is only giving you about a dollar profit - is it worth the ads? most people get christmas cards in the store in bulk anyhow, it will be rather challenging to sell one. i have about a dozen christmas related things, and i don't think i ever sold one. you would probably do much better just tweeting it out

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

 

Ann Bridges

9 Years Ago

I had the same problem with unanswered emails they were in my junk mail .

 

Joshua House

9 Years Ago

FAA stats don't simply show FAA stats, they also show the AW numbers....

 

Carla Jo Bryant

9 Years Ago

Ok I get it then. Thank you Abbie, Mike, Ann and Joshua Learned a lot on this one. Thank everyone for helping me. Think I'll go cancer my ad so I can save a little money.

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

*cancel... i never heard it that way, it kind of confused me for a second. i've never heard solid goodness from ad words. i think it depends on the need and the time of the year.


---Mike Savad
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Floyd Snyder

9 Years Ago

Ad Words works perfectly well but there are some things you to have learn about using them to get maximum use.

First, you have to be dedicated to an on going program, $200 a month, $300 an $400 a month. It has to be on going and not hit or miss.

The other thing is you do not want to use words that will pretty much get you hits, but they will not get you quality hits.

For instance. I am dealer for signed and numbered prints by some very well know artist in the "collector" business. One of the best selling artist I sell is Martin Grelle. He specializes in Western and Native American artwork. So one would think that you would want terms like "western art" or "Native American Art" or "limited edition". These are the kinds of terms they will suggest to you and yes, they will get you hits. But they are way to broad. Just like Art, Art Prints, Giclee, etc, etc.

I know for sure there are people out there searching on Martin Grelle and on specific titles. If they know enough to search on the name and the title, they are a higher quality buyer vs some on searching on "art prints".

You have to understand your market to tweak those words. For instance, there are a lot of people that will buy "cowboy" art but would never think of buying "Native American" and visa versa.

So when I run AdWords for Martin Grelle I buy only the name Martin Grelle and only the name of the individual title of the print such as "Autumn Gather". The true Grelle collectors will know the titles.

After you get your search terms set, you then have to pick your markets. I only do Martin Grelle in the south west and Japan. I do Rod Chase all over the east coast, not much west of the Mississippi. I even have some artist that I target exact cities. Rod Chase for instance, does scenes of famous locations in Washing DC or New York. I have artist that does Texas Ranger art. That I put a heavy emphasis in Austin Texas.

I also package artist that have similar art work in same campaigns. This is were having that detailed tracking information will really pay off.

After you target your Pay Per Click program, you target the same area with a email campaign. You may also want to send out a press release if there is something newsworthy like a new print being released for a fund raiser.

I try to tie this in with the release of a new image where the publisher is making some sort of push. I also send out press releases. At the same time.

Incidentally, there used to be several Pay Per Click outfits out there that were a lot less money then AdWords. I used to use them all the time. I could buy the same keywords for 10 or 15 cents that I had to pay $1 or $2 for on AdWords. These may be obscure search engines or other programs, but the search term is it self is the same. It does not matter if some one searching for Martin Grelle is searching via Google or some lessor know search program.

 

Carla Jo Bryant

9 Years Ago

Sorry Mike, slip of my fingers (cancel).

And thank you Floyd I will take all into great consideration.

 

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