Views

Here are some great posts on the forum about marketing your work

http://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=2040787 A Few Reasons Y U May Not Be Selling
http://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=377664 Marketing Yourself
http://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=358080 Promoting Your Art
http://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=1601966

the views you receive when you first post are usually from bots. see:http://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=2132642

If you auto post to FB and tweet your images the bots for those sites will immediately bring the views up. Then if anyone else shares on any of the social media sites - it will go up. Everytime something happens on that image it gets indexed, and counted if it's visited.

Marketing is the main answer. Using Twitter properly will generate a LOT of fast views. Pinterest will generate more than a few.

The followers here will also often look when you post new art.

Since thi subject came up is the http://fineartamerica.com/graphsartistwebsites.html graphs accurate anymore? Not that I put much merit into it but did notice a month ago as I began marketing on twitter I was consistently showing up and it appears now I never show up even though the view count has risen everyday for the past two months. Just curious as this also happened to me on the hourly graphs also. Is the count on these pages accurate or are only the best seller also the only ones who show now too?

That one is not based on best sellers. Should be accurate.

I think that particular graph (which was removed from the menus) only shows people still using version 1 of the AW.

I also had bookmarked it in the past and noticed the same thing that I no longer appeared on it where I consistently was there before. I also noticed others who were normally there missing. When I started clicking through to see the sites of the people still appearing, they were all people still using the old version.

you have to check the dates as well. something sitting around for a few years will get views. otherwise advertising is key. and of course how good the image is, the other half are bots.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

the graph is easily fooled, there are view bots around that will view people on a regular basis. one guy had a million hits a day, until his bot was banned. i've seen others with tons of views on bleah images.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

who is Stephen Kutos? It says collector - not photographer or artist - and there are no photos

I don't even know what a bot is, I imagine it is something that will keep looking up a certain page but at least you are ahead of me!

Please check out my work if you would!
Michael Gutwein

Mr. Ericson...He's an international man of mystery

a bot is a worker bee for a search engine and it counts as a view even though they were copying text for the hive. however there are bots that just generate views and nothing more.

in any case stephen - it would be nice if we can see your page to offer advice, if your just sitting on your hands waiting, you won't get views or sales that way. you have to usher them in.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

ok, so you with the hat - that's your page? confusing...

your images are nice, but you have no descriptions and very few keywords. people find you with that. without them you have less hits. the overall lack of views shows a lack of advertising.

just going through your stuff and just as an fyi:


this is really cute, but it won't print due to enlarging it.

in any case add more tags and such and tell people about your store


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Why does one person get a few views and another hundreds?

Probably because they have built up a following, tweet, blog, FB, and social network. Just tweeting alone alerts the search bots that there is an active page and 12-20 views comes almost instantaneously.

Mr. Savid...I find your work cute too. What I don't need is your opinions about what will and will not reproduce. I have these made by the Lambda process and they come out beautifully.

what i'm saying is - they won't print it. period. it's mashed up close and this site will not print things if they are enlarged like that. i don't know what a lambda process is, but on this site they print at 100dpi for the large and if it's soft like it is - they simply won't print it. they will reject it when it sells. you should be happy i mention it now, you have time to fix it.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Mike,

He is calling you Mr. Savid? I think he has us confused. Not good.

Who is Stephen Kutos? He is not one of Ayn Rand's characters.

At 5.41 views per day for 372 days so far, Stephen Kutos is a mystery man.

His board is a place where no bot has been before.......Star Bot........

Dave

technically that's how you pronounce it, so i'll let it go.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

i didn't notice that was a 2013, i saw it as a week and thought the views were pretty good. yeah those numbers are quite low, the type that suggests that it was uploaded and just forgotten about. i will get that many in a day without advertising.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Stephen

What Mike is saying is that the image has issues when viewed at full res and will not print at the larger sizes you have available for sale. I am not critiquing the work itself and you have some wonderful work but the example above will simply not pass the QA review before it goes to print if sold at a larger size.

I am one of the people that review the images before they go to print so this is not merely opinion.

JC

Mr. Bridburg....thanks for the helpful, if slightly inarticulate comments. I always listen to people who photoshop old masters and call it original work.

Mr Savad...thanks for the pass on my mis-spelling of the name. Yes, you are right, I should be happy you mention it now. Old news is always best.


Mr. Findley...To you I give a sincere thank you. I do not know how those larger sizes got past me. I have corrected that mistake by eliminating I do appreciate your calm non-snarky helpful post

I would like to make a comment on the experience of posting on this discussion board. I have read a number of discussions about this site which basically complain about the gotcha mentality of some respondents. To those of you , and there were many, who seemed anxious to help, I give you my sincere thanks. To those of you who thought this was an occasion .to puff up and show how much you know which (somehow I missed)...and those who believe that correcting spelling is some kind of victory I hope I've provided you with another opportunity to express your own egos. Calendar photography has never been my thing, so I apologize if I let my prejudices get the better of me.

Shame Stephen...it does appear to happen quite a lot...oh, and by the way, you added an extra space after 'occasion'...

Stephen - lots of your work has no description. The search engines need text to read and index.

Hard to avoid big egos in the world of art. Its part of the process to believe you have something to offer the world. Just be glad people are willing to offer their advice, tips and experience.

Stephen,

I am not all that serious.

Good luck to you.

You seem to be taking much more of an interest now in selling art. If
I can be of help let me know, but I am rather new myself.

Dave

I am loving this thread! lol

so anyway, did you get your answer?


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com