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Toby McGuire

9 Years Ago

How Big Can It Print?

I have a lot of photos from my old point and shoot camera (a Panasonic ZS20 14 megapixel). The quality is clearly not on par with my D5100 or RX100 when blown up all the way but I know it prints beautiful 8x10s. I don't want to offer bigger sizes since I know Q&A can reject orders.

Here is an example:

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Do you think I should keep this at 8x10 or do you think it can go bigger?

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Joseph C Hinson

9 Years Ago

The green box is showing excessive noise. Take it to your editor, open it up and look under the boat on the water. You may can start over with it, but if this were my shot, it would not be on FAA at all. Even the guys fishing beside the light house are really noisy and grainy.

 

Bradford Martin

9 Years Ago

Not sure if it is noise or sharpening artifacts or sharpened noise, but if this is what came out of the camera it has to be a lot smaller.

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

in theory 40" or so. however up close there isn't a lot of detail because it came from a small camera. they may not print it at all at the largest size, i would say your safe at 30"

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

 

Joseph C Hinson

9 Years Ago

You may be able to cheat by resizing it in your editor as you process the heck out of it. I'm guessing the largest sellable size would be 8X10, but you'd have to process it to get there.

 

Bradford Martin

9 Years Ago

Downsize it and ask again.

 

JC Findley

9 Years Ago

I have a LOT of sellers from my old Panasonic P&S.

How large they will pass QA review depends on the image. Angel has saved a few AFTER they sold with her editing service.

In general, they print between 16 and 30 inches. It is really an educated guessing process. Open the image in your editing software and look at it at 150%. Look fine? It will print at max size allowed. Look great at 80%? Limit the print to 24 or 30 inches. Look good at 60% limit the size to 16 or 20.

That is how I do it.

 

Toby McGuire

9 Years Ago

Thanks for the responses!

Yea I believe that was right out of camera with no sharpening or anything... 8x10s from the lumix have generally looked great but I've never tried anything bigger - you definitely see much more noise on the computer than you can see in the printed version at 8x10.

Anyhow, I've sized it to exactly 8x10/300dpi and done some noise reduction. Hopefully that makes it a bit better. I think the sensor in the camera is a little small because it's one of those 20x super zooms. Amazing for framing photos but not the best quality.

 

Bradford Martin

9 Years Ago

Right now you have it sized for a 30 x 24. It is still a bit noisey at that size but much better. You are surely safe at 8x10 but perhaps can go a bit larger. I can't tell from the preview.

 

Rich Franco

9 Years Ago

Toby,

Another thing to remember, is that most, if not all P&S cameras have the basic functions already set up, so there probably was a pre-set "sharpening" function turned on and also the camera used a higher ISO number and that also added to the "noise/artifacts" that are in this image. I think your fine up to 11x14 or even 16x20.

I would choose a few of the "worst ones and then get some prints made,locally and see how they look and then go from there,

Rich

 

Toby McGuire

9 Years Ago

@Bradford...

Thanks! I am still pretty stupid at optimally sizing images for FAA. Previously I'd just upload as hi res an image as possible figuring the more the better. I sized my image @8x10 300 dpi... Am I better off taking it down to 100 dpi?


@ Rich,

Although it's a P&S I did take most of my shots in Manual mode and kept the ISO to 100 as much as I could. All the images wind up with a fair amount of noise and it didn't do RAW (but I'm sure it does some ugly JPEG processing). I guess by point and shoot I really mean a compact camera.

 

JC Findley

9 Years Ago

I had the same basic camera.

Don't resize images at all here though you can clean them up some.

Just offer at smaller sizes.

 

JC Findley

9 Years Ago

Toby, if you will run a search for me on here and sort by best sellers there are four images on page one that were shot with a Lumix.

The Day Begins, Let there be light, Marines at Dawn and Keeper of the Plains.

All have similar noise / artifact issues similar to yours. It is the nature of the beast. All have sold though at the largest size I have them listed here.

They might give you an idea how large your images will go.

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

it depends how aggressive your noise reduction is, and how aggressive you are at pushing shadow. a smaller camera has issues with fine detail or skies. does crazy things with it. if you can choose a shot that has small details like leaves, noise blends in.

Photography Prints
this was taken with a pocket camera. wish i had the slr on me at the time. the detail isn't quite there, but its still fine due to what it is. if you have a flat sky its best to blur it together.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

 

Joseph C Hinson

9 Years Ago

Toby;

There is still something funky going on where the boat meets the water. My hunch is that you have tried to remove the noise through noise reduction software. I've been there and none of the images are on my FAA portfolio because, frankly, they suck. As Bradford mentioned, you're still at 24X30 on that shot. I know you have emptied the price boxes out, but you need to physically resize it to 8X10 in your editor and work on it from there.

 

Toby McGuire

9 Years Ago

Thanks JC! Beautiful photos! I'd hate to have to toss the photos that I took with my Lumix so this is good to see.

 

Toby McGuire

9 Years Ago

Joseph I resized the image and ran some noise reduction on it after the first round... I'll be totally honest- I never run noise reduction or sharpening on my photos. I'm fairly certain all I did to the original is crop it to 8x10 proportions (when I was starting photography I did next to no post processing).

I am stupid at image sizing... All I know is that it is 3000x2400 which is 10x8 at 300 dots per inch... I think it would be 30x24 at 100 dots per inch (so I'm not sure what definitively makes it 30" x 24" unless 100dpi is the standard in FAA)... For all my Lumix photos I max the size option at 10x8 or 8x10.

 

Toby McGuire

9 Years Ago

Thanks Mike... You still wound up with stunning results!

 

Joseph C Hinson

9 Years Ago

Yes, 24X30 is the same proportions as 8X10, but my advice was to actually resize it to 8X10. Open it up in your editor and look under the boat on the water. Something funky is going on there. I've "salvaged" some shots by doing what I am suggesting, though typically for another, non sale web site.

Other than that, not sure what more I can say. Good luck.

 

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