Is Whole Entire People Of The World Fine Artist

owning a camera does not make you an artist. not everyone can be an artists, either you have it or you don't. you can be an artist at any age, and you can sell them if people like them enough.

usually art is something unique and creative. typically vacation snap shots, family shots and things that were shot at random (like most people do), i don't consider art. generally art and being creative is hard to do, and many people don't know how to make art, they just know what they like. selling your work is hard to do because there are many people here already. and if your photos look like anyone's photos - generic - they probably won't sell. to sell things it has to have meaning to the buyer, be creative, be well done, be interesting or any combination of those things. you have to have a good selection as well. and of course on this site it has to be clear and printable, it can't pixelate or be blurry.

focus on uploading more things first.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

I think that you don't have to be a natural artist to create art. Some people are born with this side to them like said above, but their is also the person that studies day and night and becomes good at it as well. Some people have a gift that comes natural in anything, but that doesn't mean they are the only ones considered artists. That would mean that only prodigies are true artists.

Is Whole Entire People Of The World Fine Artist?

Yes.

The answer is NO in my opinion.
Even if everyone in the world had a camera or brushes and paint or clay or fiber or metal, they would not be an artist....tools and materials don't make someone an artist any more than owning an expensive set of pots and pans, access to a great kitchen and lots of cookbooks, makes you a chef.
It's all about what you DO with what you have....and that not only includes your tools but your talent, vision, artistic eye as well.

@Mike, so disagree. Everyone has the ability to create art and beauty. There is nobody on this or any other site that has some special God given talent.

yes, anyone can make "art" but not always art that people want.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

@marlene, I guess your eye is best suited to agree with your art. However, other eyes might see art differently...some might not think your eye or art is that great

@Mike, so everyone in the world likes your view of art?

I even like my daughter's crayon scribbles...excellent use of color...

Yes, Jeff, everyone has the ability, but that wasn't the OP question....the question was IS everyone an artist....and I stand by my opinion when I say no.
I don't really care what you think of my artistic eye....I've been in business over 40 years, have been collected and recognized worldwide...it's all good from where I sit.
I'd love to comment on your artistic eye, but you haven't uploaded any work for us to look at.
ah well.....

Not everyone is a good artist. But POD sites on the net have made a way for them to find out if they have anything that people want to buy. Somehow I think the POD site like this is smart enough to know that many will buy their own print and that they (the site) can make money that way. Big business I'd say!

That way artist can be artists for themselves... and try to give their art away for Christmas gifts. ( Many family members may dread the thought of that )

Creativity and expressing ones self through visual means is just part of being a human. I think the camera has helped many people, who for what ever reason, have not developed drawing skills become artist. To be a successful artist they still need an eye, knowledge and desire. Jeff your comment about God given talent only is meaningful if you believe in God which is a topic that cannot be discussed at this site. I have to agree with Mike in that I feel there are those who have a great deal more talent than others. The only thing is if you don't work hard in the long run that won't mater. I would take issue with the concept that if people "want" your art it somehow maters. Many of the suckiest artist I have seen sell well, where as many great ones, don't.

Ron,

What exactly do you mean by this?

"I would take issue with the concept that if people "want" your art it somehow maters (matters). Many of the suckiest artist I have seen sell well, where as many great ones, don't."

To the person who makes a living from art that people want it matters a great deal. What issue is there to take up aside from the fact that the bad artist is making a living while the really fine artist is on poverty row and always lamenting?

@Glenn, I so agree...most, or maybe some, art and artists that are quite successful "suck" in my honest opinion, but I have seen a lot of art I love that was created by even the newest hobbyist.

@Marlene, don't you like my avatar???

Judging from the amount of bad images here, which someone must have thought was art, I have to say no. Being an artist takes dedication, an artist's eye, innate talent, and lots of practice. Many who have some of those elements lack the discipline needed to produce consistent work. Artists have called me an artist, but I've always maintained that I'm really a creative technician. I don't need the "A" word.

Anyone can pick up a paintbrush or a camera and produce something, but is it really art? Most of the time, no.

Jeff, very simple selling does not equal art. The market and art are not the same thing.

@Murray, art is about perception...some believe a child's drawing or coloring is the "finest art" of all, but I doubt if it would sell here. Also the same child probably wouldn't pick most of the art here to purchase for their room.

Sorry mostly meant Glenn.

@Ronald, that is my point exactly. Art is in the eye, or taste, of the viewer, or creator.

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Sorry Jeff, reread what you were saying!

NP :)

Many who take their art seriously, and who study and apply themselves, ought to be respected for the discipline they have chosen to follow. But just because someone has the discipline to learn does not mean that they are a good artist. This debate about who is an artist is circular and never ending. I think the OP is just having a bit of fun with those who take this thing so seriously.

No everybody on this site is not a good artist. But they may be good at marketing... and that makes a world of difference and deserves a bit of respect too.

P.S. Ron, whether or not someone is a good artist technically means nothing to those who admire what they have created. One reason to take critiques on FAA with a grain of salt is because artists are constantly looking at technicalities. Buyers are not as savvy or aware of some of these inadequacies.

Bonita, It's true that decent cameras have opened photography to the world. There are many degrees of being an artist. Some play with the notion and others make their living at it and there are many types in between. Art is in the eye of the beholder. I believe that photography can be art. It's much about how you approach it. Do you think it's art? That's what is important.

hello mr Dan you are very always making wise words and this is good for talking. i not look at your art yet but i think it maybe good like words.

you could probably erase that example now, i think it served its purpose.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

ok mr Edward. i not allowed to observ you be in mood like child. i say sorry for you and maybe now you not talk. i am thinking Matt maybe buy your picture that make him remember like child but he think you misunderstand and make like fool so ok. i am sorry for you. and i not laugh anymore. but may i ask you why you post e-mail if not to try make fun of me?

mike are you saying to mr edward or to me? i show picture my husband like very much but he show picture to make fun out of me.

mike are you saying to mr edward or to me? i show picture my husband like very much but he show picture to make fun out of me.

the dr dirk example, you can probably remove it now since you probably don't want to sell it.


---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

oh i understand yes. i forget i have it in gallery taking space but mr Edward find it fast to make fun. i am thinking maybe he need to read rule also::::> thankyou mike i will do that now.

ok i take it away but it still show in thread when he post it. will this be here always?

Stay here yes it will stay unless he edits his message and then it can be go away.

hello mr Jeffery. thank you. my girlfriends at school make light fun and call me pigon for talking poor on internet with them and this is fun because they friend but you not know me and this sad when you make fun. i see you write in other thread and you not talk like me usual so i know you make fun. i get better every time i do try nd this is good yes. but not you with small thinking.

Actually trying to write so you understand. Do you read English okay?

ok mr jeffery. this is common misunderstand to copy poor speaking and i say sorry when you just try make help for me. i do read very better than i write but get better. it can be frustrate to know what to say but not know how in correct way:-) my husband he very good at english and he sit with me and help when i not sure but he try to stay back and let me learn on own. but he tell me when people make fun to. he say you try to help but this being counter product like talking baby to child and he never learn correct. but thank you for try and sorry :-)

ok now my computer being annoy by loss internet and my vin is caput so i go to bed. thankyou for sharing opinion except mr Edward who loss sale :-) goodnight

Dear Bonita, you are an excellent communicator even with a strong accent. I don't see any problem with you getting your strong points across, with that, I smile.

Your husbands opinion is interesting because I have often wondered the same thing. All photos don't seem to be art. I find it difficult to decide which ones are which.

Sometimes at first, a photograph seems like art and then so many of the same types of photos are produced and that type of work no longer seems like art, but a repeat of the same ole same ole.

Since all the others before me have made great points like Murray, Mike and Marlene, all I can add is that after I paint, I take a photo of the painting. After an hour of manipulating the painting in Adobe Illustrator, I go back to the studio to fix my errors, then back to the computer, and repeat. By the time I'm done, I've spent way too much time on the work that collects in my studio rarely selling any of my work. Does that upset me? Not really. I like other things about art than just creating it and selling it. I really like socializing on FAA and getting more tips on how to be a better artist. That said, I sold six paintings this year...so I'm pretty happy saying that my work is art...but I'm NOT all that sure in moments. So, don't feel bad!

sooo....Bonita, who are you really?

Maybe? Nah!

Me thinks that you are on to something Marlene. Google her name and city.....Who is she?

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/tribecalledquest/bonitaapplebum.html

just a tidbit passed along to me

All humans can be creative and artistic but the difference is professional. There is a level of knowledge (just knowing what you're doing), how to interact and form professional relationships, accepting this is work not just fun, understanding your shortcomings and setting goals of growth, that is missing in the amateur.

-- mary ellen anderson

Who is an artist? Or a fine artist?

It is an open ended question.

What is good art? This is generally very subjective.

What is a universal in the arts? That is the true question.

Dave

People confuse that area David.. The reason we have art schools, and critics is because art is judged on merit, not opinion. Opinions are subjective, not art. You are free not to like anything based on your opinion, because opinions are subjective, but opinion is not an indication of artistic merit. You learn this in art school btw. ;)

Anyone can call themselves anything, but it carries zero weight unless the world agrees with you. Titles have to be earned, and no one can claim them for themselves even if they want to. The world will determine if your are a great artist with recognition, and sometimes that doesn't happen until your long dead and gone.

hello miss Lisa. thankyou for kind word and yes i not have problem to talking with many people here but maybe just some also not good english. Matt he is very strong in his mind with art and i not change him :-) i havlook at your painting and they are very good i see you like me with lots of vin yes. but not now it morning. i wait for maybe 2 hour first lol.
miss Marlene thankyou you show song my husband take pet name from. i alredy tell mr Murray about this in other forum but i tell you also. my name is Carmen Maria Garcia Bonita Lopez and i spend all my life travellover europe with first my parent and now i am parent in belfast school to make art. Matt he call me this name for many years and i like it and use it for art site yes. he always say to me hey! you got to give me some like song and he like dog on leg but now we have 2 child so not so much.
miss Phyllis please not talk about me like i not here this is very rude.
hello miss Mary ellen. i am thinking we are being same with this question:::::>
mr David ask more question and mr LC give good answer. this i agree. if world say person a fine artist they will believe same and mr Murray say earlier much deluding now with all camera and site say "you are fine" artist to my sons friend.
thankyou.

If that is your husband's pet name for you, you should not be questioning him at all....furthermore, he should still be like a dog on your leg.
You have failed.

I was speaking to Marlene...

Is Whole Entire People Of The World Fine Artist

Let's keep it to the subject please :)

Is the whole entire people of the world fine artist? well, I had not met the entire people of the world however at least my parents, brother and sisters not artist! I am the only artist in my family.

Bonita, you have a lovely accent. :-)

A big fat NO on whether or not every person in the entire world is an artist. Lots of people are creative, but not all people are artists.

A better question is: Can anyone become an artist? Many people (not everyone) can become an artist if they put the work into it and have the desire to do the work it takes. A teachable spirit can go a long way in anything someone is wanting to be, but people have to have something to start with - natural talent and a will or passion to see it through to fruition.

Having a camera or a pencil or a sewing machine or an instrument and even knowing how to use those tools does not make them an artist.