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Richard Rizzo

9 Years Ago

An Obituary For Color: Yellow, Orange And Red Newly Proposed Laws In The Eu Would Ban Cadmium Paints

This is real interesting, I wonder if the US will follow suit.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/an-obituary-for-color-yellow-orange-and-red-1412718962

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Phyllis Beiser

9 Years Ago

I hope not! Cadmium yellow is in almost every painting that I paint!!!

 

April Moen

9 Years Ago

Come to the digital side. We have all the colors you need. ;)

 

Abbie Shores

9 Years Ago

I see the reasons with the ban and agree with them. We are very strict here with making sure what we eat is healthy. However, batteries use more and leak more. Will they also ban those I wonder

Lol April

 

Richard Rizzo

9 Years Ago

Yes, so far Pixels are much more environmentally friendly. :)

 

Richard Rizzo

9 Years Ago

Good point Isabella.

 

Suzanne Powers

9 Years Ago

I love the look of a painting, the look and texture can not be duplicated easily, definitely not the surface texture. I was told by someone here who knows, the elite in the art world (big money buyers) do not accept digital work. Come to think of it you don't see many digital works in an art museum.

There are judging platforms on line if you pay a fee (the one I visited it was $35) a well known art critic (someone who's opinion is valued by the big buyers) will critic your work. Traffic to this site can observe your work and how you were rated and sell your work. You can literally make a name for yourself on line this way except if you do digital artwork. The person I referred to is following this path.

This segment of the art world would be very unhappy to see everything go digital. I can see though how the power of green may change the art scene to some extent and how we do things.

 

Edward Fielding

9 Years Ago

Most of what you see in museums are hundreds of years old. I don't see many museums coming to a POD to purchase work.

But yes, an original painting has rarity which adds a lot of value. A digital print will always be considered much less rare in the realm of a silkscreen, photograph or other type of print.

Even in photography a print developed in the traditional darkroom by the original artist will command a higher price than a digital one. More hands on, more rarity.

 

Roseann Caputo

9 Years Ago

Wow!

I think of it as a joke when I say the only way we will lose traditional media is when they no longer make the materials. I knew that eventually someone would look for reason's to not make or use the materials, but didn't think we'd see it now.

Is it just me or does this seem a bit over-the-top?

@April - LOL

 

Donna Proctor

9 Years Ago

Roseann,

It seems over the top to me. In the USA, all cadmium paints comes with a loud warning - so it really is "buyer beware." What's the saying? Oh yeah, "they'll have to pry it from my cold, dead hands ..." ;~O

--Donna Proctor

 

Marlene Burns

9 Years Ago

When cad red gets banned, I will first stock u and then retire when I run out.

 

Tamara Lee Madden

9 Years Ago

LOL @ April!

Cadmium is great but other colors are fab too!!

 

Lisa Kaiser

9 Years Ago

I agree with Isabella, there is no reason to come in contact with carcinogens. Even in the work that I do which is filled with hazardous substances and a way to dispose of each of those substances without insult to the environment or to the people working with those hazardous wastes, if there is a substitute, it should be used over ones that cause us chronic harm to people and the environment. Sorry for the run-on sentence there.

 

Abbie Shores

9 Years Ago

Donna it is not the artists in danger as much as the fact the slurry is running into the agriculture. When we wash brushes, palettes etc... We are poisoning the system

I am grateful to live in a country who cares about our health

 

John Haldane

9 Years Ago

idiotic. the lunatics are running the asylum.

 

Suzanne Powers

9 Years Ago

I agree Abbie, even small things matter and can bless your life. For me it is all about doing your part whether or not anyone else is. If there is money involved and a product that is in demand, it will happen! Just because it hasn't been made to date remember Cadmium is still being sold and apparently there hasn't been a great enough of a demand for the safe version that is as effective. It has always worked this way, history has proven it.

 

Marlene Burns

9 Years Ago

If ou read the article, you would knw that cad reds are already developed to replace the danger, so all is well ;)

 

David Smith

9 Years Ago

They banned it in photo papers years ago, which ruined my favorite, Agfa Portriga Rapid.

 

Rudy Umans

9 Years Ago

For years I made Polaroid transfers using Polaroid 59 film until they stopped making it. Somehow I survived...:)

 

Roy Erickson

9 Years Ago

I'd get my hand on as many tubes as I could - this 'problem' has been around for years - and there really is no substitution that I know of. seriously - unless you suck on your brushes - this is foolish. If they really wanted to help the environment and ecology - they'd ban plastic first. Then they'd ban take out and drive through windows at fast food "restaurants".

PS: Marlene says there is a sub - hmmmm - I've not seen it - and me wonders. as usual, if it's as good as generic drugs compared to 'brand name' drugs.? does the 'replacement' paint like the real thing?

and then @ Abbie - and so my dear - what do you say to the "pesticide' and "herbicide" folks that continuously poison the earth - There is a local company that's been "poisoning the earth" since 1949. My neighbor uses one that comes every two months - consequently - I have no honeybees and no butterfly's (hardly ever) in my yard full of flowers (only when the Mexican Hydrangea's are blooming) - although somehow the Carpenter Bees (look like bumblebees a bit) don't seem to be affected.

 

Abbie Shores

9 Years Ago

I say the same things. We do not allow as many pesticides here as you allow there. We are very strict on what is put on our greens and such

 

Nicole Whittaker

9 Years Ago

if the "big money buyers" don't like digital then I'd guess they wouldn't be on a pod site as everything here will be a digital print, regardless of the original medium.

 

Anna Willard

9 Years Ago

i paint with gloves on. i think there are toxic material everywhere, we need to just use it responsibly.

 

Marlene Burns

9 Years Ago

psst....from the article....
The EU now believes that suitable alternatives do exist. Paint companies have been coming up with alternative organic pigments for many years and—bizarrely—they are marketed with exactly the same name. So Winsor & Newton Cadmium Red Dark comes in cadmium and noncadmium versions. The ECHA found 24 cadmium-free paints whose names contained the word “cadmium.” However, the alternatives are less intense and have to be painted in several layers, which can lead to muddiness and a loss of opacity.

When I was hired in a stained glass studio in the late 60's to paint portraits with powdered glass and then lay the pieces on asbestos pads for 7-8 firings, nobody knew about dangers beyond those nasty glass cuts. We had no masks and tons of bad stuff flying through the air....I'm still alive, last I checked.....

 

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