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Patrick Anthony Pierson

9 Years Ago

Centers For Disease Control Is Run By Incompetent Nitwits

"CDC is lying!" said Dr. Gil Mobley. “If they’re not lying, they are grossly incompetent. For them to say last week that the likelihood of importing an Ebola case was extremely small was a real bad call. Once this disease consumes every third world country, as surely it will, because they lack the same basic infrastructure as Sierra Leone and Liberia, at that point, we will be importing clusters of Ebola on a daily basis. That will overwhelm any advanced country’s ability to contain the clusters in isolation and quarantine. That spells bad news.”

In addition to that nonsense, Secret Service Director, Julia Pierson - no relation to me - resigned after an epic fail that affected all of us because her incompetence put our president in jeopardy for this reason, among many: Her lackadaisical attitude toward asset protection.

"We need to be more like Disney World," said Pierson. "We need to be more friendly, inviting.”

From the Benghazi cover-up to the Fast and Furious gun-running orchestrated by the Regime, our current government is being mismanaged and basically run into the ground by a bunch of know-nothings who think they're better than anyone else on the planet...but really, they're as useless as tits-on-a-snake.

Want to take a shot at defending these idiots?

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Mario Carta

9 Years Ago

One word comes to mind for some unrelated reason Exceptionalism, I'm not going to defend or attack as I'm not sure I know who these "idiots are", but I was watching the news today and all this EBOLA network news hysteria is what I find Idiotic, I actually commented on it in the scaremongering thread. I was thinking that if the real people that mean this country real harm were watching our news cast they must have had a flood of ideas on how to attack us here without ever detonating a singe bomb! All they have to do is casually make it to our shores after purposely exposing themselves to Ebola and then visit our most populated cities. But like I said I wonder if the media thinks of these things when they broadcast the stories they do in such a sensationalist way?

 

Lawrence Supino

9 Years Ago

"our current government is being mismanaged and basically run into the ground by a bunch of know-nothings"

I think Rahm Emanuel ran a tight ship...but when he left...a lot of lower level staff took a step up the ladder.

Re: CDC...
yeah, sure...it's not a likelihood as long as no one lies on the airport questionnaire!!...just as this Dallas man supposedly did...now the head of Liberia wants to press charges on him...(that should help him get well soon).

An nbc cameraman just got it also...he's on his way home now (to the US).

I'm not getting into "Benghazi". lol



 

Kelley Lee McDonald

9 Years Ago

No shots here Patrick,

I just want to get old and die in my bed…(without Ebola creeping in)

 

Mario used the phrase, "... casually make it to our shores," which is exactly why we're in a world of shit with ramifications no one should underestimate; ebola is going to spread over the surface of the planet and there's not a damned thing we can do about it, since we're at the mercy of the incompetent nitwits we've put in charge of protecting us against such a thing by preventing it from ever happening.

Understand this very well, Mario: Every airliner that "casually" makes it way from some other continent "to our shores," that plane is actually a border; the plane itself is our border. Our airports are staffed with people that aren't trained to handle the spread of such an infectious disease as ebola, so what do you think is the last line of defense?

 

Mario Carta

9 Years Ago

Patrick, I totally agree! It's a BIG problem to big for irresponsible broadcasting and hysteria mongering. But like every thing else, it comes down to Money, the big companies monies, they will not stop flights from these countries until we have a real out break here. I much more fear the deviant mind of a suicide terrorist using this virus as a weapon to produce fear and panic in society with the help of our efficient media capable of broadcasting fear and panic at the drop of a hat. The government cater's to big corporations and stopping flights to one or two countries might be possible, what happens when they use alternate points of entry from other countries, like Mexico, Canada...

 

John Crothers

9 Years Ago

"Want to take a shot at defending these idiots?"

I'll take a shot.

Anyone want to completely disband the CDC?

Also, is there a link to where they said " the likelihood of importing an Ebola case was extremely small"

 

I'm not talking about stopping the flights, Mario, I'm talking about screening potential carriers of the virus and preventing them from boarding any plane in what for them is a last ditch effort to save their ass. If you know you're infected, you'll do anything to get the best treatment in the world, and that means getting to a hospital in the USA, lickety-split.

You know damned well there are trash-talking trolls out there who salivate at the prospect of berating the USA because we have the most advanced medical capabilities and health care on the planet and only want the treatment for ourselves; truth is, they can't wait to blame us for allowing the spread of the disease in other countries because we kept the best means for dealing with it all to ourselves. And don't be surprised if this PC lot tries to blame the outbreak on man-made global warming, just so they can point their finger at us and say we're selfish and greedy and we're too powerful and we haven't shared the wealth with the rest of the world and we must be punished and blah, blah, blah.

Since we will be treating our citizens first - as we already have - before we treat other nation's citizens, we're going to take the heat for the spread of ebola elsewhere, and that's just utter nonsense.

 

Mario Carta

9 Years Ago

Patrick, a most interesting statistic I just heard, In Beverly Hills California the vaccination rate for children is 21% in Liberia it's 72%.

 

Mario Carta

9 Years Ago

Patrick "I'm not talking about stopping the flights, Mario, I'm talking about screening potential carriers of the virus and preventing them from boarding any plane in what for them is a last ditch effort to save their ass.,"

So beyond asking them some questions on the honor system and taking their temperature what do you expect them to do?

 

Kelley Lee McDonald

9 Years Ago

Hi Patrick,

I know this may sound silly as an analogy, but I was telling my partner recently how frustrating it is to manage our gardens. Even using the same clippers to shape our bushes spreads disease and fungus to uninfected areas! The planet is eating itself, one way or another…

 

Mario Carta

9 Years Ago

The problem with Ebola is that science does not know the reservoir of it's origin. I think that the powers that be should put all effort on vaccine, before it's to late. Now that we know some people here in the U.S.A,have been exposed why are they not under guarded quarantine, instead of the honor system?

 

Kelley Lee McDonald

9 Years Ago

Yeah Mario,

I'd say it's a big problem.

 

You can't be serious about comparing a bunch of wealthy, Hollywood boneheads to dirt-poor, boneheaded Liberians...the parents of kids enrolled in Beverly Hills schools are submitting a form called a 'personal belief exemption,' which states that they are not vaccinating their kids on the grounds that a diffuse constellation of unproven anxieties, from allergies and asthma to eczema and seizures, results from such vaccinations.

Total boneheadedness.

While it’s true that the proportion of Liberian children who’ve been fully immunized is approximately 72%, using the measles and yellow fever coverage as proxy, by the age of 15 years, approximately 11% of Liberian girls become pregnant and by the age of 19 years, 62% are pregnant. A total of 26% of adolescent pregnancies are unintended, while 30% of pregnancies among adolescents end in unsafe abortions.

The median income in Liberia is $700 per year; I suggest you use Common Core analytics and do the math.

As for the solution to keeping ebola from making transatlantic flights, that's what we have the CDC for! Unfortunately, as I said in the OP, this bungling bunch of boneheads are nothing more than incompetent idiots and can't do their job.

 

Kelley Lee McDonald

9 Years Ago

I'm going to swing on out of here now. I certainly can't fix the Ebola problem with words or education. I think I'll just keep my fingers crossed…:-)

 

Wishful thinking won't save any of us, Kelley.

Until the medical community (private sector) finds the means to vaccinate and treat us for ebola, we must demand better, more effective job performances from the government folks who've been charged with protecting us and never should we settle for their phony assurances that there's no need for concern, that everything is under control, 'cause it ain't!

 

Kelley Lee McDonald

9 Years Ago

Hi Patrick,

Well, I guess I'll just have to depend on fate. Mine, to see me through all this.

Sweet dreams, over and out.

 

Mario Carta

9 Years Ago

Patrick, last time I checked, pregnancy is not contagious, whooping cough is, measles is air borne, those boneheaded Beverly Hills parents have children that can easily spread an epidemic of their own right here in the U.S..It's in our National interest to not only screen people from those effected Countries coming and infecting people here but assist them in eradicating the virus so it doesn't arrive here via a most unexpected route, that's where I would put my money.

 

Mario Carta

9 Years Ago

Dear Ms. Kelly, maybe we need to pray about it.

 

Kelley's wishful thinking, i.e.; fingers crossed, and her reliance on fate, which is merely a superstitious belief in supernatural forces outside the realm of self-reliance, are akin to Mario's, "...pray about it," none of which will save a single person without the aid of medical treatment.

The Beverly Hills kid's stats vs the Liberian kid's stats were used for relative comparison between cultures and lifestyles, so we could keep things like this in perspective, rather than infer something for which there is no basis (which you so often are wont to do, my friend).

The first case of an ebola-infected patient reported in the US is 41-year old Liberian National, Thomas Eric Duncan, allowed to board a plane on September 20 to come to America to visit his family.

Just four days before this man's flight, on September 16, our president gave this speech:

"We’ve been taking the necessary precautions, including working with countries in West Africa to increase screening at airports so that someone with the virus doesn’t get on a plane for the United States. In the unlikely event that someone with Ebola does reach our shores, we’ve taken new measures so that we’re prepared here at home. We’re working to help flight crews identify people who are sick, and more labs across our country now have the capacity to quickly test for the virus. We’re working with hospitals to make sure that they are prepared, and to ensure that our doctors, our nurses and our medical staff are trained, are ready, and are able to deal with a possible case safely."

The story of Mr. Duncan's plight demonstrates that all of Obama’s reassuring promises were empty ones, which is why we say, "The fish stinks from the head."

 

Mario Carta

9 Years Ago

Patrick, it's hard to disagree with that!

 

Did I mention that after Mr. Duncan visited the hospital in Texas? He was sent home with antibiotics.

A total of 80 people are currently being monitored in Dallas...yet another in a series of epic failures at the hands of our government.

Looks like somebody has some 'splainin' to do.

 

Re: Rahm "Rahmbo-Deadfish" Emanuel.

From a Judicial Watch complaint, which reads: “As widely reported in the media, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina, on behalf of the Obama Administration, have both used their position and influence as highly placed federal employees to affect the outcome of federal elections in direct violation of the Hatch Act, which states that an employee may not ‘use his official authority or influence for the purpose of interfering with or affecting the result of an election."

Rahmbo makes a pretty good crime boss.

 

Mario Carta

9 Years Ago

That's why I say we better focus on a vaccine, because fixing the idiocy is gonna be a whole lot harder.

 

Lisa Kaiser

9 Years Ago

I'm shaking my head, I won't be traveling now. It's not up to me but Ebola and it's sufferers need to be quarantined until the disease is gone. I probably sound crazy but wow, this is really out there.

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Mario Carta

9 Years Ago

Lisa,it's likely to get much, much worse, before it get's better I think. Especially if a group of terrorist seek to exploit the situation, that's really scary.

 

John Crothers

9 Years Ago

No Kelly, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be afraid to shake his hand. If he is shopping for groceries he is obviously not at a point where he is most contagious (if he even has the disease). When you are most contagious you have a fever and are puking and have bloody diarrhea. I doubt someone is going to run to the store to get a gallon of milk with bloody diarrhea.

This same "run the other direction" happened with AIDS. Remember Ryan White in Indiana?

 

Kelley Lee McDonald

9 Years Ago

Dear John,

How have your rights been effected so far?

 

Kelley Lee McDonald

9 Years Ago

Dear John,

I'm happy to kindly disagree with you regarding the responsibility I feel these professionals owe us, 21 days is nothing.

 

John Crothers

9 Years Ago

They haven't yet. But it usually starts with one person and that nurse in N.J. was that one person.

I have seen it happen with smoking and seat belts. It started slow and then became the law of the land and personal freedom is taken away. Fear played a part in both of those scenarios.

The professionals "owe" us nothing. Should you, or a professional that has had contact with it, be in mandatory quarantine if you get the flu? Remember the flu kills A LOT more people in the U.S. than Ebola.

 

Carolyn Weltman

9 Years Ago

Kelley, our doctor in new york was far more irresponsible than the nurse. and so far no one has come down with ebola. 21 days of self monitoring and being careful is considerate. quarantine when there are no symptoms is not necessary. we do not insist on flu victims going into quarantine. this whole thing was a political ploy by Christie and blown way out of proportion.

 

Kelley Lee McDonald

9 Years Ago

Hi Carolyn,

I just want to share my opinions, they are what they are.

 

Carolyn Weltman

9 Years Ago

me too, Kelley ;)

 

Kelley Lee McDonald

9 Years Ago

:-)

 

Carolyn Weltman

9 Years Ago

firstly this is very clear and helpful information about ebola

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/31/world/africa/ebola-virus-outbreak-qa.html?_r=0

secondly, yesterday, President Obama called for the newly elected and strong Republican party to stop spreading fear about ebola and to do something about funding for the CDC to develop a solution ...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/16/1337019/-Ebola-funding-won-t-get-a-hearing-from-House-Republicans-but-Ebola-panic-nbsp-will

that's how the people you elected are keen to help!

 

I don't think so.

The ONLY reason for the Democrats' extensive losses in this election is the overwhelming desire expressed by the voting-majority to stop the Marxist/Socialist juggernaut piloted by The Obama: Republican victories across the board have little or nothing to do with the winning candidates themselves.

This election outcome was the direct result of the peoples' mandate to put an end to the destruction wrought by The Obama and his Regime.

Now, a majority of the voting public wants the "fundamental transformation of America" to come to a 'full stop,' and if possible, to reverse engines. To that end, the Republicans should not reach across the aisle and work with the Democrats; they should neither compromise nor capitulate.

Unfortunately, the Republicans as a group are a bunch of pantywaists who will not have the wherewithal to stand up to the Democrat Party and its bullies BUT, throwing money at the problem will not fix it.

We need strong leadership, not linguine-spined wimps like Boehner and McConnell; once again, our government will fail the people they serve.

 

Sydne Archambault

9 Years Ago

This would be very a very dangerous path in my opinion Patrick for the Republicans to not reach across the isle to Democrats. We all know the prize is the presidency, the Republicans need to at least "appear" they can get things done, they need to capitalize on having the power they have been given. If they don't they will be punished in the next election.

 

Carolyn Weltman

9 Years Ago

actually only 32% of the country voted and most of them in the south. also people overwhelmingly voted for obama's policies but not him. things like wage increase etc. immigration. let's look at the republicans to know why they are frustrated at those things not being dealt with. but time will tell. however, isn't this the ebola thread and should we perhaps take a look at why the republicans do not want to fund the cdc after casting terror into so many voters hearts?

 

Sydne Archambault

9 Years Ago

Good point Carolyn.

 

Lisa Kaiser

9 Years Ago

Gosh Carolyn, great point. Other than the race card on the Ebola crisis, Obama has been an awesome president. I think the Ebola thing will pass soon...hopefully. Stupid decisions could cause such a serious problem for people across the globe, so the conservatives were right on this issue in my opinion.

 

Lisa Kaiser

9 Years Ago

Weird double entry again.

 

Carolyn. Please note that I said, "the voting majority," meaning, the majority of those who actually voted. It should also be noted that Democrat voters more often abstain from voting in the mid-terms, choosing instead to wait for the presidential election before getting off the sofa to go trick-or-treating in the neighboring voting precincts. ;-)

As I indicated in my previous post, a vote cast for a republican candidate was a vote cast against The Obama's malicious policies.

Sydne. It is the Democrats that will need to capitulate in order to compromise with Republicans if we are to see our government reconfigured and realigned with the Constitution, rather than leaving it transfigured in opposition to it.

 

Carolyn Weltman

9 Years Ago

compromise with the republicans to do what? the keystone pipeline? taking us to war? getting rid of earned benefits? ruining our now growing economy? keeping women as second class citizens? i'm looking forward to that. but i see it differently, i think both the President and the Whitehouse, the democrats and the republicans should commit to working together. Boehner came out swinging and bullying with no talk of compromise. it is his way or the highway. however, once again this is the ebola thread. but of course, there's no ebola news since the elections took place and the republicans were triumphant (for now). and isn't that strange how ebola is no longer in the news.

 

If voters had wanted Congress to work with The Obama to get things done, they would have elected Democrats!

 

Carolyn Weltman

9 Years Ago

and that has to do with ebola how, Patrick? in fact, if you scroll up you'll see that i already noted that only 32% of the country voted and most were in the southern states where they historically vote against their own best interest. however, let's see how voting in republicans will help america. if they do, i'm all for it. however i think they are only concerned with their own best interests. we'll see. we have two years before the next hysterical election.

 

Fair enough, Sophi...let's talk about that nurse.

Kaci Hickox is an employee for the Centers for ‘everything but’ Disease Control and a registered Democrat with a history of left-wing advocacy who formerly claimed that the people who quarantined her and told her to avoid venturing into public places were anti-science.

However, in a not-quite-180-degree reversal, Kaci has apologized for potentially putting others at risk by voluntarily subjecting herself to at least a partial quarantine in a transparent attempt to absolve herself any transgressions she may have committed while showing everyone what a selfish, self-absorbed elitist she truly is.

The word, 'hypocrite,' comes to mind.

 

Carolyn Weltman

9 Years Ago

if you scroll up, Patrick you will see that we already discussed the nurse and i did point out that she apologised to her neighbours for the media attention. not for standing up for her rights. besides this is old news. i'm asking about the republicans not funding the cdc and you're not responding to that.

 

Not really, Sophi. Here's what little was posted:


{Donna: Re's the nurse who didn't have ebola - Did you hear - she apologized to her neighbors!

KLM: Donna posted, Kaci Hickox has apologized to her neighbors! The nurse also agreed to stay away from public places. She is not out of the woods until Nov.10th. Now this is a start in the right direction!

People who work around deadly viruses should be subject to prudent medical protocols (at least being home quarantined.) I see it as part of the profession, not a deterioration of their personal rights.

Yet speaking of rights, I have a right not to be infected by a medical professional out in public when perhaps, they shouldn't be.

CW: In fact she apologised to her neighbours for the media firestorm. she still stands up against Christie and her rights, as she should.

KLM: Her rights won out, she is now working with her compassion.}


So. What's missing from this apparently one-sided 'discussion?' My comments:

The fact that Hickox was trained as an 'intelligence officer' by the federal government’s Centers for 'everything but' Disease Control and graduated in 2012 from a two-year program that trains what the federal agency describes as “Epidemic Intelligence Service Officers,” or EIS agents.

Why would the press omit this information? Why do so-called reporters think it's insignificant?

The short answer to those questions is that the media hate the military. The CfebDC models itself after the U.S. military, which is why its ‘officers’ wear military costumes when appearing before Congress, complete with shoulder stripes, stars and badges.

So. Why would Officer Kaci make such a public fuss about being quarantined when she should be advocating for just the opposite?

Because Kaci's statements were not the words of a concerned and ethical epidemiologist, but rather the words of a CDC intelligence operative who has been trained in the art of information warfare.

So much for her phony 'compassion.'

Ba-Da-Boom, Ba-Da-Bing!

 

Sydne Archambault

9 Years Ago

I need to wear glasses, because I thought Patrick wrote, "The CfebDC models itself after the U.S. military, which is why its ‘officers’ wear military costumes when appearing before Congress, complete with shoulder stripes, stars and budgies."

For some reason the thought of military wearing shoulder stripes, stars and parakeets cracked me up!
Sorry to digress!!

 

Budgerigars! That's right, Sydne!

When I was growing up, my parents always kept a few budgies as pets in a tall, cylindrical cage that I was assigned to clean every week as part of my 'household chores' routine.

I loved those bright little birds!

 

Sydne Archambault

9 Years Ago

As did I Patrick! (:

 

Carolyn Weltman

9 Years Ago

you still did not address my post about the republicans refusing funding for the cdc. all the fuss about the nurse is just sideline stuff. what is important is how america is addressing ebola. now the elections are over, it seems it is not an issue anymore. until someone else dies.

 

The world's largest ebolavirus outbreak has sickened more than 18,600 people, out of which more than 6,900 have died with the vast majority of those deaths occurring in Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia...and I really don't give a damn.

 

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