Marlene, thank you much :)
Pamela, i am just used to dragging to re position images in galleries, the "position" drop down makes me have to do math to figure out where i want it to end up :)
it's all good i am getting it. i deleted the whole gallery and started over again and the second tme around made sure the images went straight to the galleries i wanted them to
Heather, i will take a look at those too, thanks