Position In Keyword Searches

How do you know they have had 0 sales?

while the search is based in sales, there are other factors - views, time it was here, probably a dozen other things. you also don't know if those others didn't sell, not all of them will say - congrats on your sale and some people erase those comments.


---Mike Savad

And not all sales are featured on the announcement page, so they don't get congratulations in the first place. Features in groups also play a part as does how long the image has been on FAA.

Really? I thought the sales do all get announced, and it seems to me that when the site does post those sales, at least one person is going to congratulate the artist. I never considered that those congrats might be erased by that artist.

no, if you get a bunch of sales at once, not all of them go in. the sold page only shows a sample of what sold. and some things that sold, if odd, don't always get a comment. and some things that sold was bought by the person that uploaded it, and i don't think that has an effect on the search.

some people feel that the congrats doesn't look professional. but also keep in mind that it's the artist that sells the work - the work itself doesn't have to sell. like i have many pieces that never sold that is high up in the search, its only there because i sell quite a bit. i guess the assumption is, if the artist sells a lot then all the work must be good. however that said, if someone sells something on that page, they will rank higher than me there.

---Mike Savad

DPA,

My "sense" is that the "recent sales" page is curated and only the best images are posted,so if a "snapshot" does get sold, it won't appear on this page,for marketing purposes,

Rich

I am pretty sure that all sales are featured at least for a while. It's definitely true you can have sales with no comments even if they do show up in the feed. The bettter way to tell what has nno sales would be to sort by best sellers or recently sold.

Some artists get all their work to the front. The default sort is "featured" for whatever that means. Featured artists have usually sold a real lot and all there work gets ranked higher and after that it is based on sales of the art. Other things like comments and favorites count too but not as much.

When I sort by best seller on some searches I am up on the front few pages with several images. But in the default search I am further back because I don't have hundreds of sales on FAA.

The best way to explain what you are seeing is that the artists up front sell more in total on this site or more per month. That seems to count more than anything now.

snapshots appear there, event photos, images that can't print at all, copyrighted stuff, trademarks, very noisy, etc. it gets dumped to that page even if the sale was canceled. which makes it more disheartening when you lost the sale but still got pat on the back. it really should be curated - at least show the stuff that can print.

i wonder if upload frequency has anything to do with the search.

---Mike Savad

I did not realize that I made my first sale. Didn't check the sales page for awhile. Either didn't get the e-mail or missed it... and didn't receive not one comment.

I had 2 sales the other day and got no comments. It doesn't mean it didn't come through on the recently sold. If there are no comments it may have been posted in the recently sold in the overnight hours or if it was a busy sales day it got knocked out of rotation quickly. I think everything that gets sold through the search is able to be seen on the recently sold page at some point. I have no way to confirm this but no reason to doubt it either. Well congrats on your sale Cathy!

I've had at least two sales for images that, at the time, were marked "not for sale." (There was a tic-box provided back then, and I had checked Not For Sale.) So those sales were not announced, nor did I get any comments on them. I still don't know who purchased them or how they were able to do so. I think someone may have obtained special permission behind the scenes.

When you first log onto the web site, you will see one sales page, when you log on again, you will get another sales page, and so on.

One sale I had recently, I did not see the sale until I logged on for the fifth time.

Thanks Bradford! That sale was a year ago... lol... the first one. I have had one other sale that didn't get any comments. Most of them do. Like Chuck, I log in and out over and over and usually it comes up... the last sale I had I did this like 15 times, still didn't see it, but I got a couple of comments 2 days later.

Chuck it gives you a sample of recent sales. If you refresh the page it will give you a new sample that overlaps the first one. I hit f/5 to refresh. Eventually it will give you all the files in rotation, but not all the files that sold in the past 24 hours. On a busy sales day some are taken out of rotation quickly.
That's not official but I check these things a lot.

@connie - which images were they? because if you marked not for sale - that's for an original. if you added prices to the the boxes - then it's for sale as a print.



you can also look at the grand list in the tab bar above, it also needs refreshing but you can see other sales there. for my sales, my bookmark lands me on the accounting sheet.


---Mike Savad

Thanks, Mike. They were posted soon after I joined, and that's probably what happened. I'm not selling paintings but photographs, so I don't sell originals. Two were related to my alma mater, The University of Texas. One was a vintage oil rig on display on an Austin street corner, and the other was a street scene that featured the stadium. In both descriptions I now include a blurb that directs buyers to check with the UT Legal Department, for no photographer can be responsible for all legal decisions regarding an image when the answer is "it depends on (so many varying factors)."

Connie;

I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on TV (although I still enjoy "Law & Order" reruns) but anything seen from the street is fair game. No need to direct a buyer to the University of Texas, esp. in regards to the football stadium. On the other hand, if you're really concerned about anything legally from selling these two photographs, don't put the prices in and then no one can buy them without contacting you.