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Carlos Diaz

9 Years Ago

What A Relief !

Of course, nothing beats a great photo.

However, software manipulation has brought forth another dimension to photography. After all, software is the equivalent of a darkroom manipulated photo.

MMMM... What else does it have to offer?

This month, I have tried to get away from a FLAT photo finish and I though it would be a bit more challenging to give some of my FLAT PHOTOS a 3D dimensional look

Sort of a adding a noticeable RELIEF rendition of a FLAT photo. It only works well on certain photos.

Will it attract attention ? Will it Sell ? - It's too early to tell !

Anyway, see what you think of this particular method of photo manipulation. I appreciate all comments. ( Yes, I know it's a bit gimmicky but I hope unusual enough to bring to the market...)

http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/4-carlos-diaz.html?tab=artworkgalleries&artworkgalleryid=444257

Thank you all !

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Roy Erickson

9 Years Ago

Carlos - what software are you using?

 

Susan Sadoury

9 Years Ago

That's really cool.

 

Carlos Diaz

9 Years Ago

After 40 years, I just came up with a cure for cancer. Then I get a phone call from the other side of the English Channel and another scientist asks me: HOW DID YOU DO IT?.... mmmmmm.....

I think this is along the same line of asking a woman how old she is.... We men don't mean anything by it, but it may not go over too well....

Of course, if everybody produced the same results, the results would invariable cease to have any intended impact - however small it may be.

However, I would like to know if anyone thinks that the results are worthy of the market?

Your professional vision is truly appreciated. Thank you for your response !

:)

 

Barry Lamont

9 Years Ago

Hello Carlos.. I had a little look. I think it works quite well on the more abstract style pieces and the monochrome too.. Not sure about the landscapes etc.. Also not sure if you could actually get away with calling them 3D...? It is more of an embossed effect than a 3D effect.. Anyhow.. I'm not here to rain on your parade :-) keep playing around and see what happens.. Good luck my friend!

 

Bob Galka

9 Years Ago

Carlos...

The method you are using is widely know among Photoshop users. Most have played with the method and most have dismissed it as you said... "gimmicky" ;O)
Having said that.. is there a market?.... certainly. People like shiny things. Whenever this question shows up I usually comment.. just look at the recently sold page... ;O)

bob

 

Carlos Diaz

9 Years Ago

Hi Bob; I did not use Photoshop but a combination of several other software. I also use Photoshop CC but was not aware I could produce similar results with it. I will certainly take a closer look. Barry, I may rename the gallery. But don't you think that the name 3D may be easier to find in the searched? Thanks to all !

 

Mary Bedy

9 Years Ago

I think it's kind of interesting. I should really play around with Photoshop a bit more. I've been making panoramas by hand and find it very hard to stitch the photos together and get rid of the edges. I was complaining to my son and he said "Are you using the Photoshop panorama feature?". Well, lo and behold, I tried that (didn't know it was there) and I was blown away! Two minutes to make a nice panorama instead of two hours to make a so-so panorama. Who knew? Obviously, I didn't.

I like the effect, Carlos - it's different.

 

Bob Galka

9 Years Ago

For the Photoshop users that have yet to explore it's depths... sign up for Deke McClelland's Photoshop Blog... He as a new technique every Tuesday.. notice that the current one is #333 ;O) they are all archived there so you should find something to interest you.

www.deke.com

bob

 

Barry Lamont

9 Years Ago

Carlos.. Yes easier to find, but not accurate. "Embossed" is the term most associate with this effect. (I know it's contradictory, technically embossed is 3D, but not with images :-)

Edit: I think if people went looking for 3D images and were presented with embossed images they may be a little disappointed..??? maybe

 

Carlos Diaz

9 Years Ago

Barry, your point is well taken. Maybe I need to have a contest for the proper name for my current 3D Gallery?. Thanks !!!!!!
:)

 

Barry Lamont

9 Years Ago

LOL... just saw your e-mail there Carlos..thought i'd come back here before replying.. What about "Who's the mboss?"..or "I'm the mboss"......... maybe not..lol

 

Barry Lamont

9 Years Ago

EmBossy Boots! ..tada! lol

 

Bob Galka

9 Years Ago

Carlos.. not sure you really need a separate gallery for them. I would just put them in the subject gallery with the others, or a least include them in both places. That way a customer who is just visiting your carousel gallery will see your "3D" version and who knows.... ;O)

 

Carlos Diaz

9 Years Ago

I think that both Bob and Barry are correct.

Barry suggests that - the 3D Gallery should be renamed to something that would make better sense. and Bob suggests to actually show the photos in more than one gallery, to increase their search value.

I certainly appreciate everyone's high value comments which serve me personally to shape my direction.

It is very gratifying to see artists working together to help each other.

I Thank each and everyone of you for your time and help !

Carlos Diaz

 

Murray Bloom

9 Years Ago

Hi Carlos. Your images have a certain impact, although I'm not crazy about how 'liquidy' they all look.

There's a larger issue, though, your refusal to divulge how you achieve the effect. Traditionally, this Forum has been a platform to share such information, to help other artists succeed and broaden their scope and repertoire. Many, including myself, have provided detailed information about how certain images were made. For example, recently I posted a picture of how one of my pictures was shot, including the shooting stage and lights. Sharing is a good thing.

 

Bob Galka

9 Years Ago

Murray.. that is a personal choice. I as well share information to anyone who will listen ;O)

But consider if this were a forum of magicians.. Some will share their secrets, but most will not.. even with other magicians and most people I think can accept that.

bob

 

Murray Bloom

9 Years Ago

I understand your point, Bob. Not so sure about the analogy, though. "Magic" is based upon deception, while image processing is process-oriented. I believe it comes down to either wanting to help your fellow artists or not.

To give another example, Mike Savad has, on his website, provided detailed instructions of how he achieves the effects he uses to make his wonderful and successful images.

 

Carlos Diaz

9 Years Ago

Hi Murray;

Thank you for taking the time to post your comment.

Many times - I too - have helped many others in offering my personal contributions by participating in this forum

As I visit the other distinguished artists websites throughout FAA, I too wonder HOW some individual artists obtained their results.
Every time I bite my tongue, at the risk of insulting the artist. Chalk it up to my own insecurities. It is a very competitive world.

I personally think that asking WHICH SOFTWARE was used is a bit too intrusive - for me personally.
Again, this is my personal conviction and not reflective of the community at large.
I also think that one should NOT ask how much money you make.
Yet people ask me that question all the time. I am very shy indeed !

Each of the posted photos took quite a long time to render.
Each took many hundreds - if not thousands of dollars to produce - not in software costs but in time spent getting there.
I guess it's the journey that counts.
I have been at it for roughly 50 years. I have gone through every iteration of the computer world - since it's early inception.
I keep book records of filter combinations to see what - if anything - they produce.

As each one of us can testify, the learning curves are pretty steep.

So please do not be offended when I do not divulge HOW the effect it was achieved. It not you, it's me.

Thanks !

Carlos Diaz

 

Murray Bloom

9 Years Ago

Don't be afraid to ask, Carlos. Many, if not most, will indeed tell you how their workflow goes, if only in the broadest strokes.

But you're right - it's your choice.

 

Bob Galka

9 Years Ago

Yes Murray I agree with you. I am in your boat, but I have been in Carlos's boat as well. My work has often been called a deception ;O) Even after I explain it. I also think that I have no obligation to explain my process, but I choose to do so. That's all. ;O)

bob

 

Carlos Diaz

9 Years Ago

As stated before, I am basically very shy.

It seems that by participating on any Forum such as this, conversations creates a life unto itself. At least is what President Reagan once said about Federal Programs.
I think he was right...

Again, some conversation iterations were not originally intended, but they surface anyway. It's called human interaction.

I try to guard myself against such iterations, and I am very careful when I write as to not initiate a flaming response.

Sometimes though, It's funny how - some conversations - have the potential to quickly decay, degrade or deviate. All it takes for one person to say the wrong thing to let the sparks fly !

Your time and input is very valuable to all of us - and to me personally. To this end, I certainly appreciate if we could keep the focus on its original intention.

Again, thank you one and all !

 

Dan Turner

9 Years Ago

I tell people how I do it all the time. There are no secrets. The art isn't in the software, or camera, or lighting, or filter or paintbrush or combinations of same. It's in the artist. If you tell someone how you did it, and they can turn around and do the same thing, guess what? There was never any art to it.


Dan Turner
Dan Turner's Seven Keys to Selling Art Online

 

Roger Swezey

9 Years Ago

Dan,

I must say that you had the guts to say, what I was thinking.


Throughout these last 40 years, I've been creating and selling actual 3D "art", that's been dismissed, by many, as just a gimmick


And by the way, I freely tell anyone, who ask, how I produce my work, right down to the glues I use.

 

@Carlos -- You have my support. When it comes to questions of 'how', I only share what I choose to share . . . and I don't choose to share everything. That's purely a personal choice.

I very much like what I see in your 3D gallery. :-) Whether called 3D, embossing, dimensional effects . . . whatever, I like the final outcome.

I often use dimensional effects in my own work; it's a look (feel?) that pleases me:

http://fineartamerica.com/featured/the-friendship-ring-wendy-j-st-christopher.html
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/i-see-the-moon-1-wendy-j-st-christopher.html
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/last-one-standing-wendy-j-st-christopher.html
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/heart-held-2-wendy-j-st-christopher.html
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/this-rough-magic-1-wendy-j-st-christopher.html
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/bursting-point-wendy-j-st-christopher.html

 

Carlos Diaz

9 Years Ago

Thank you Wendy for your support !

 

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