Google Results Not Showing Faa/pixel Member Image Page Anymore?

If you are talking about Google Images I can't quite confirm that. A click on some images still brings you to the actual art itself.

If you are talking about regular Google search results, links back to OUR FAA/Pixel/AW work have basically disappeard from Google, even Redbubble and Artflakes are doing better, and I couldn't find any links from Google to my FAA Designer Prints and Licensing pages at all.

Yes, I notice in the standard Google search, fineartamerica/Pixel is nowhere to be found either. But, yes I am talking about Google's image search in this case. So does anyone, especially mods/Sean, have any thought on this?? -W

https://www.google.com/search?q=wingsdomain&num=100&safe=off&client=firefox&hs=mIP&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=0YrBU_fhKZKGyAS4kYGIBg&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAw

i think that's all your work there. clear your google history maybe it went nuts. i turned mine off.


---Mike Savad

FAA is the first result for web. For images I was able to link to the image page.

I think that's what Wings means, Mike.
On the Wingsdomain Google Images results page ... most of the images in there come from his news releases, and not from the images in his profile.

Mike, that is all my work, but they are all:

- either from my other sites

- or a few from FAA BUT when you pick on "Visit Page" after picking on the thumbnail for one that comes from FAA, they all either go back to my faa press/news release or to a thumbnail page. They DON"T go back to the individual image sales page anymore. Which tells me somehow, those individual sales pages are not being indexed by google anymore. (they used to be everywhere in google, not anymore)


Note, I searched for "Mike Savad" too and though there were maybe 2 link back to your individual image pages, there is very few when they used to dominate the google results.


-W

You're right, Wings.

i wonder if google has begun that panda sort. where content it deems spammy or not useful, and dumps it from the search. seems if i force it's there. my darn links are blue i can't read any of them.

actually looking again for me i see a mix of this place, pixels, bubble etc. it's like the mixed the deck.

---Mike Savad

It's a mix and still a lot lot fewer from faa than in the past, and IN ADDITION, you still have to pick on the thumbnail and then from the window that comes up pick "visit website" to see if it's going to your image sales page or to a general thumbnail page or to somewhere else in faa like in my case to my press/news page. If you do pick that "visit website" link, you will probably find very few or none that goes directly to your individual sales page on faa anymore. And again, in my case, none of the google results go back to my individual faa sales page, so in appears none of my individual faa sales pages are being indexed.

-W

Think I'll ramp up my ArtFlakes....it points to me here .

My first post was meant for wings. Seems to work fine on my end on a search for Wingsdomain.

Wings,

I wonder if this "new", weeks,months, development, is tthe cause for the decrease in sales,since I would assume, most buyers are coming to FAA via a Google search?

Is this possible?

Rich

This is the case for me as well. Here is part of what I wrote in another thread earlier today, when discussing my FAA images in Google image search: "If I find my image in a Google image search for a keyword(s) and click on "visit page," it used to take me to my image. Now it takes me to FAA's search results instead, and if I don't rank for that image on the first page or am even a few pages back in the search, the potential buyer will not be able to find me, even though it was my image that was of interest to the person."

When I do a Google image search for my name (I use it as a keyword as well) other sites where I have my images are definitely ranking higher in that image search than before, which seems to be a good thing, given the above.

"If I find my image in a Google image search for a keyword(s) and click on "visit page," it used to take me to my image. Now it takes me to FAA's search results instead, and if I don't rank for that image on the first page or am even a few pages back in the search, the potential buyer will not be able to find me, even though it was my image that was of interest to the person."


Wow. If that's true, it's now officially hopeless.

this has been going on for at least 6 months, maybe even longer. not sure how long ago it was that i noticed most of my images when from faa/pixels are the phone cases and almost nothing else. which is why i offer phone cases on all images now.

@Jim: Here is an example: I do a Google image search for "cerinthe major purpurascens" scroll down until I see one of my images and click on it. I get the "visit page" and "view image" options, and when I choose "visit page" it doesn't take me to the page that features that image I saw and clicked on in the Google image search results, it takes me here: http://fineartamerica.com/art/all/cerinthe+major+purpurascens/canvas+prints There aren't many people with these search terms on FAA so I rank highly here (I chose something very specific for this example), but imagine if it were a more popular search term. As it is, the image I clicked on in Google image search is currently in the third position in the FAA search results.

@Bradford, if you did a google image search for "wingsdomain", like my response to Mike, here it is again, the results are:

- either from my other sites

- or a few from FAA BUT when you pick on "Visit Page" after picking on the thumbnail for one that comes from FAA, they all either go back to my faa press/news release or to a thumbnail page. They DON"T go back to the individual image sales page anymore. Which tells me somehow, those individual sales pages are not being indexed by google anymore. (they used to be everywhere in google, not anymore)


@Rich, I'm sure it's not helping the cause, it kinda also corresponded with the slowdowns I've been having too. It's a good thing I have my own website which is starting to show up in Google a lot more than FAA whereas in the past, FAA just dominated and my own website used to be buried.


-W

Yup, just tested mine and the same think is happening.
Disturbing and really not ok.

Hi..

Looking at the Google results for searching 'Wingsdomain', I'm kind of not surprised your press release pages are coming back top.

If you look at your press release pages that come up top, you mention 'Wingsdomain' alot more than what is referenced on your main image pages. Also you have included links to domains with 'Wingsdomain' in the url. So I would kind of expect Google to rank those pages higher.

Google change things all the time, I know url naming is quite a strong ranking factor, but maybe they have also now changed it so that links within pages and url names also rank higher... who knows.. :)

Your main pages are in the Google Index, you can see that here: https://www.google.com/search?q=site:fineartamerica.com/featured/+%22Wingsdomain%22&tbm=isch

And if you search for something else a bit more generic, your main image does come out top: https://www.google.com/search?q=Amtrak+California+Gold+Usa&tbm=isch

For most other 'generic' searches, the FAA search pages are returned as the top results, this will be because firstly of the sponsorship program that FAA has, as it makes people create links to the search pages, and that will probably rank the search pages higher than anything else because its 'proving' popularity, and also all the links and tags on each of those pages, and they are probably much more 'common' pages than most of our own image pages.

Rob.

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Fantasy Art Web Site

This does not seem to be happening on mine. I, too, have a name that is pretty unique and easily searchable, so I do the same thing Wings does and do a google image search on it from time to time. Images that show FAA still link to the individual image for me.
Nikolyn McDonald

It isn't happening on mine either. Lots of images are linking to both FAA and Pixels. Not sure what's going on in others' cases.

I tried 4 of your images on google images, Nikolyn, and all of them either to Nikolyn Mcdonald Prints with thumbnails http://fineartamerica.com/art/all/nikolyn+mcdonald/prints or to New Images for (add a day here) http://fineartamerica.com/newartwork.html?date=07/04/2013&medium=all&page=3

As I see it you have the same problem as Wings and quite a few more of us

Thanks fireflux, I notice now that when I search "wingsdomain" and something else together as a phrase like "wingsdomain surreal" that the results do have few more from faa and a number of those results do go back to my faa image sales page, not nearly as much as before, but still some. I wonder if it's just that single word search that google has fiddled with (among whatever else they changed) since it used to be when just entering "wingsdomain" I would get 100s of faa results that link back to my faa image sales page, so when that didn't happen this time I thought somehow google just stopped indexing them. I know few will be searching for just "wingsdomain" but it was always a good test and easy to find and check.

-W

My name is fairly common so when I do a Google search the first 15 rows are nothing but mug shots and snapshots of other people and images that aren't mine. The next 12 rows or so have at most one image of mine per row, and after that my images show up at a rate of 2-3 images per row. There are quite a few phone case images and all of them come from Pixels. The remaining images come from FAA and my personal website which I have never promoted. I've had my portfolio on FAA for 2-1/2 years and my personal website for just six months so I'm shocked that images from my personal website are coming up as frequently and in some cases before images from FAA. It would seem I should be putting more effort into promoting my personal website.

Thanks for trying, Christine. I'm still not understanding. Here are some screen shots I just took; I put them in a password protected gallery, so I hope the links will take you there. Let me know if there's a problem and tell me what to do and I'll edit if I've done it wrong.

The first one is from the page that comes up when I do an Google Image search on Nikolyn McDonald
The second is what I get when I click on the image. I have several options, including "Visit page".
The third is what I get when I click on "Visit page"



Sorry about the images but just putting links in did not work apparently. I really do not want to put these images in a public gallery. I'll delete if anyone thinks I should.

Nikolyn, we can't access password protected galleries, can you make the galleries public?

Yes, some certainly do, Nikolyn, but e.g. "Loud Mouth", "Young Corn" and quite a few more don't.
As I said I just checked 4 or 5

I still don't see the problem.

I clicked on "Loud Mouth" and then Visit Page. I got to a page that showed many of my images for sale as canvas prints. I scrolled down and clicked on "Loud Mouth". Got right to a page where I would be able to purchase it as a canvas print. Then at the top I had the option to drop down "additional products" so I did. That showed acrylics, framed prints, metal prints, etc. All of them took me to the option to buy this image.

I did the same for "Young Corn". I got to a page that showed many of my images for sale as Prints. But all were clickable and all took me to my images.

Could my browser have anything to do with this? I use Firefox Mozilla.

Some of my images lead back to "new comments" page, thought it was a glitch. Some of them lead to pixels licensing which is very disturbing since I opted out. I will be
doing much more research in the next coming days.

I've noticed a few different things on a google search of my own name first on a web search i haven't found any mention of Pixels.com at all and at times i find my name listed usually on the 3 pg from a discussion post from FAA.
Then when checking the Image search i picked an underwater sea image cell case/visit page to view.On that page it shows everyone's cell phone cases at top it refers to keyword (Ocean Floor) (which is one of my tags) when i checked another pic on the next row down only my art pics were shown as cell phone covers on one page at top refers to keyword (ksg) (a big lesson on tags) so the search has changed from before as they used to go to my aw page work only.
The last thing i noticed was after i scrolled down past my own art work on the Google image page i saw everyone's artwork or photo of the person whos works i have viewed on faa lately must be a powerful cookie? Before the pics below my artwork were related search pics having to do with the related name such as Gunns

while i didn't click on them all wings - i think it's going to the press release, because that's where the content is. if i clicked the picture, you had no real description. so its magnetically attracted to the area on your page that has the most content.

---Mike Savad

I searched yesterday and many of my more common named images did not show up at all - even in Google Images. Uncommon names would show one or two images - almost always the phone covers which badly crop many images not designed for such.

Still, I got more FAA links than my Zenfolio website (http://haldanecreativeart.com) or Flickr (johnhaldane).

Methinks the internet is so crowded now that we all are just lost in the blur of data. All my old "tricks" and manipulations that used to get me at the top of page 1 in Google searches fail me now. Copious link-backs, appropriate keywords, detailed descriptions that include keywords, etc. all do little.

I searched some of my images that have 5,000+ views here and even some of those don't show, so more views doesn't necessarily mean better Google rankings.

My internet marketing does far, far less than my face to face, brochure, or business card marketing.