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Mark Andrew Thomas

10 Years Ago

A Little Confused About "today's Images"

Whenever I upload new art I sometimes like to check where it shows up in the latest images. It used to be that when you uploaded a new image it would appear at the top and then gradually descend down the pages as new artwork was added. That is how it should be. I JUST uploaded an image and didn't find it even after going through pages and pages of artwork. This happens with everything I upload unless I upload right after midnight when there isn't much art up yet. Now this wouldn't be a problem except that I'm noticing other new artwork that is not only in the first few pages, but stays there for several hours. Not only that, some of these images appear again on the next few pages and are nothing more than duplicates of the same image. They also hang around for hours...sometimes all day. I do off site promotion and I realize that is something I must do on my own and I'm not sure how important the new images section is in the grand scheme of things, probably not very, but any exposure, or lack thereof, can make a difference. Not complaining (well, sort of), I'm just curious as to how this site works when it comes to that. I have an inkling as to why but just wanted to get some thoughts. I love FAA, it's the best site of it's kind and getting better all the time but these little things sometimes nag at me...

-Mark

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Loretta Luglio

10 Years Ago

Same here I uploaded today and it is nowhere to be found. I uploaded one 3 days ago and that is not in the new uploads either. This has been going on for a while now as it was the same with another image a month ago.

 

The New Images are now a select few, from my recent experience.......sorry..........

 

Mike Savad

10 Years Ago

unfortunately, the new stuff is also sorted by who sells the most. if you don't sell often, you'll be escorted further back. i'm not sure how many buyers use that section. but yeah i think that's something someone mentioned to me once, that his stuff wasn't to be found, and mine which was older than his, was on top.

which is good for me...

---Mike Savad

 

Mark Andrew Thomas

10 Years Ago

That's what I figured. I don't necessarily agree with it but even the best sites have their faults. Hopefully buyers don't use that section LOL...

 

I really reallly realllly resent this.......maybe if we'd never had ALL new images posted every day, and indexed, btw.....but we DID and it felt a 'right' afforded me as a paying member , to have my new work supported by the New Uploads

May as well re-name that 'short-list' as a 'chosen new uploads'......that's really cruel. It's enough Search benefits the sellers.....at least on first instance, our work should appear on the Home page, even just that once.

Sean, please reinstate showing all new uploads, please.

Please also bear in mind that we used to see others' new work and this afforded us the chance to comment - as part of the search issues and just to know !!!!

Not found - not saleable..........c'mon !!

 

Loretta Luglio

10 Years Ago

I just found my image on page 15. Guess I'm moving up in the world!

 

Mark Andrew Thomas

10 Years Ago

LOL...

 

Adam Jewell

10 Years Ago

I rarely look at the new uploads page and I do sell some stuff but between 90% and 99% of the views I get when I upload something are bots. I don't really think anyone is missing out on anything by not being on that page. I've also never sold anything that seems like it was discovered on the new uploads page. The fastest anything ever sold after upload was 2-3 weeks.

 

Debbie Oppermann

10 Years Ago

Why can't the new uploads be just that? - The uploads should be in the order that they are uploaded so that members can also see new people, new art

 

Pamela Patch

10 Years Ago


Hate to break it to you all but almost all of the search options on faa are stacked these days.

 

Patricia Strand

10 Years Ago

It can't be determined by who sells the most, because I've been on the first page a couple times (and stayed), even though I've sold very few pieces overall. Could have been luck, or maybe there is some other determination. I'm usually around page 10, or even further back. I check only because I want to see what my work looks like to the public.

 

Mark Andrew Thomas

10 Years Ago

This isn't breaking news...I had figured as much before I even wrote the first post but wanted to see what the general consensus was. I just wish new images would show up in the order they are uploaded, that's how it used to be. And to have the same image repeated several times is B.S. Maybe I'll upload 100 images at midnight one of these days and then keep re-uploading throughout the day haha....

 

Mark...

If you upload 100 images I believe only 5 will show up... unless something has changed again. We used to have people who dominated the loads with tons of images of virtually the same thing. Through some complaining it was changed.

I have not looked at the new uploads page for almost two years now. It seems irrelevant. But Vivian's observation and indignation seems apropos to me.

 

Melissa Bittinger

10 Years Ago

I agree 100% with Vivian's statement.

 

Vess Art

10 Years Ago

I've seen active links to personal websites posted in the biography text box. I was wondering is that an option or owner decision... (my personal experience shows that posted links in the biography text box are not active)

Sorry for being out of the topic but I found this issue somehow related... if it is not available to all, then we come to the point selected/ featured or not

 

JC Findley

10 Years Ago

Just curious, where is the new uploads page. I have honestly never seen it.

I have no opinion on it one way or another as an artist or a mod so will let the site owner answer IF he chooses to address it.

 

JC...Home Page..scroll down .left side. .. TODAY

If nobody ? Uses this, ?, what good is it. Who will scroll down,and choose TODAY ?

 

Mike Savad

10 Years Ago

i never looked at that page myself either. i guess i never saw the point of it.

---Mike Savad

 

Delete Delete

10 Years Ago

You can also get to it while in the forum, by opening the "Shop" tab and under "Images" click on "Today's New Uploads".

 

Abbie Shores

10 Years Ago

Members who have a history of high sales have their images appear higher on the new uploads page. In the past, we just showed everything in chronological order, but when we did that, the page was very unattractive most of the time. There would be a lot of "low quality" images up there at the top all day, and that doesn't make FAA or our artists look good to potential buyers.

 

Donna Proctor

9 Years Ago

Members who have a history of high sales have their images appear higher on the new uploads page.

I'm guessing the same holds true for the "Recently Sold" page also. I wanted to see the location of the person who just purchased an acrylic print of one of my paintings and it wasn't anywhere to be found there either. :-/ Seems to me that recently sold should mean just sold but here, not necessarily so since I went through at least the first ten pages to find the info... and didn't locate my sale. Here on FAA it seems to mean "most popular sales" so I'm not sure why it doesn't say it rather than "recently sold."


--Donna Proctor

 

JC Findley

9 Years Ago

So, you could have a page full of these?

Perosonally, I like this and expect it to be a best seller.

Sell Art Online

 

JC Findley

9 Years Ago

Donna, you can go to your sales page, click on the image announcement page and the info is there.

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

still though, there should be that bad images on the new upload page. because you may actually lose out on sales because there are good ones mixed with the bad. right now every search is based on sellers. but even a buyer would get bored of that. what if at least the new page was for people that advertised, have good traffic, comments, votes, and sponsored lots of words. at least it would knock off the snap shots and it would give others a chance at selling stuff.

---Mike Savad

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

recently sold is random, keep refreshing it and it will maybe show up. but if it's the location you want, and it's yours, just look at the sales sheet in balance and it's all right there.

---Mike Savad

 

Delete Delete

9 Years Ago

Donna,

It looks to me that the "Recently Sold" page is actually titled the "Recently Sold - Featured Art" page. (nice and big in the new font)

http://fineartamerica.com/art/all/all/all?sort=recentlysold

All a buyer is going to see here, is a list of images from the "Featured Art", that have recently sold. They are not going to find sales from the more "average" sellers. It is a shame, but FAA is stacking the site in a way that generates the most PRINT sales and not in a way to benefit all members.

Then again, if it were my business model, I might be tempted to do the same thing.


 

JC Findley

9 Years Ago

Mike, I can show you dozens of snapshots with hundreds of comments and votes because of the promotion groups.

I won't of course, but they are out there.

 

Delete Delete

9 Years Ago

Mike,

The "Recently Sold" page that members see when we log in, is not the same as the page I just linked to above.

Potential buyers and visitors to the site are not seeing the same page that members see. Yes, that one we see shows everything "Recently Sold" in a random, rotating order. But "visitors" to FAA do not see this.

The visitors are seeing this page - http://fineartamerica.com/art/all/all/all?sort=recentlysold ("Recently Sold - Featured Art")

That page is not random. You can get to that page at the top bar under "SHOP" > "IMAGES" > "RECENTLY SOLD"

 

JC Findley

9 Years Ago

If it were my business model I WOULD do the same thing. Guess what, increasing sales not only benefits FAA it benefits the members. Perhaps not all of them but then this is a business first and an artist online community second.

 

Donna Proctor

9 Years Ago

Double post.

 

Donna Proctor

9 Years Ago

The only page that rotates is the one you first get when you log on...

@ Tiny - I just saw that. SHOP> Images> Featured Images> Best Sellers> Recently Sold. It made me laugh... redundant... mostly the same artists in different slots. The bottom line for me is that mine is Recently Sold and it was no where in sight.

EDIT @ JC - You would do THAT the same way?

 

Delete Delete

9 Years Ago

Yes Donna, but yours was not a "Recently Sold - Featured Art".

 

Delete Delete

9 Years Ago

Donna,

You followed the wrong trail It is not SHOP > IMAGES > FEATURE IMAGES > ............

You simply have to go to SHOP > and under the "Images" you will see "Recently Sold" (4 lines down). Click on that and it takes you to the "Recently Sold - Featured Art" page.

It is called plain "Recently Sold" in the drop down menu under SHOP, but it is not "really" a Recently Sold link.

 

Mary Armstrong

9 Years Ago

I noticed that, too, not long ago! Vivian is right, we all pay for membership, be it nominal in a way, still we pay. And have sold, but not tons and tons. So YES, the newest uploads should show in that order. However is the management's (Sean) decision. This is a FOR PROFIT ART SITE and thus those who sell the most are featured first. Business tactic and can't knock that.

 

Mike Savad

9 Years Ago

i understand the reasoning of why it's done, and i can see both sides. but for those that aren't selling, no matter what they try, getting their foot in door at least just once may be enough to find an undiscovered artist. like for all i know, i was in the new section when i first started and that's how i made my big break. true there may be lots of reject pictures, and that's the chance people have to take when they go through the unfiltered things. and yet even if it's a snap - it might fit just what they wanted.

---Mike Savad

 

Mark Andrew Thomas

9 Years Ago

I guess I can see the reasoning of it. I sell stock video regularly on Pond5 after a popular video clip was purchased several times and my work started showing up on the first page of search results and still does. When it comes to sellers on FAA I've seen some breathtaking images sold...I've also seen some "meh" ones sold as well. That is the beauty of art...it's all subjective. FAA doesn't have quality control on upload (which makes me wonder how the image licensing and downloads are going to work) but artists whose work has already sold and passed inspection are a safer bet than an unknown artist. From what I gather with the responses to this thread, nobody really pays that much attention to that section anyway so it's not a make or break issue. I'll just upload my photos right after midnight and then at least it will be visible for a couple of hours if nothing else...

-Mark

 

Roger Swezey

9 Years Ago

Re: :Today's Images"

A while back, there was a statement that the images were being placed chronologically, when obviously they weren't.

When I implored Sean, to follow his own words, he deleted the statement.

Go Figure

 

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