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Darr Sandberg

17 Years Ago

Discuss: Art To Reflect Our Time And Culture

I've been reading a book about Symbolism ("Symbolism" by Michael Gibson), and he presents the position that symbolism was a response to Industrialistation in predominantly Catholic European countries.

Whether that part is accurate or not, I found an interesting statement in the book that I thought could generate some interesting discussion.

"the artists (symbolists) sought subjects uncanny enough to emanicpate imagination from the familiar world and give voice to a neurosis, a form of anxiety, a face, unsettling as it might be, to the profoundest dreams. And not the dreams of an individual, but of the community as a whole, the dreams of a culture whose structure was riddled with subterrean fissures. The whispering collapses distantly audible throughout the edifice offered a discreet foretaste of the world's end."

Without getting into the for's and againsts of any of the issues and events impacting 'the community as a whole" today, but simply recognizing that fissures have opened and continue to open in society -

what form of anxiety, what neurosis, what profound dreams or nightmares could become themes for art made in this age?

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Jude Rouslin

17 Years Ago

War, Civil Liberties, Politics, Global Warming, Trade, came to mind instantly. As each of those can be further divided into categories. How to project a collective thought regarding each of the mentioned, is perhaps already being done. It may not be neurosis, but there is certainly I feel, a lot of anxiety that is whirling across this globe which is being defined via various art forms from many Artists
. Symbolism may differ from Country, Artist to Artist as well as medium.

OK I'm new here and if I misread your post , excuse the new kid on the block:-) Because as I read my own post, before I click submit, it's not making much sense:-) By the way, are there any detailed stats that can be read concerning number of visits etc, other than who last visited and number?

 

Carson Collins

17 Years Ago

During the Cold War, nuclear submarines of both the U.S.A. and the U.S.S.R. operated in a similar fashion as did our long-range bomber aircraft.
That is to say, they moved in patrol patterns that included a so-called fail-safe point. Once a sub had passed its fail-safe point, all communication with higher authority ceased and the sub's crew continued to operate under rules of engagement that are still classified top secret.

The U.S.A. lost at least two subs (Thresher and Scorpion), and the Russians once admitted to the loss of twelve of theirs, many of which may have been beyond the fail-safe point. Thus we have a total of perhaps fourteen fully armed nuclear subs that are assumed to be badly damaged and resting on the ocean bed. The location, depth, and condition of most of these subs is apparently not known, nor does there seem to be any large-scale, organized effort to find them. And even if we could find them, we lack the technology that would be required to clean up the mess. No program aimed at developing such technology exists. The hazards involved are terrifying, to say the least.

The amount of plutonium in even ONE of these sunken subs, once the containment is breached, will be more than sufficient to kill every living creature in the world's oceans. This mass extinction will include the phytoplankton that produces about 70% of the oxygen in our atmosphere.

Plutonium is one of the most deadly of all known poisons, and it has been stated that one pound of plutonium, if evenly distributed (and it WILL be distributed by the ocean currents), would be enough to kill every man, woman, and child on the face of the Earth. When the phytoplankton is extinct and the oceans are dead we humans - those of us who haven't already succumbed from eating contaminated seafood, etc. - will all die of suffocation anyhow.

If you haven't heard about this problem before, I'm sorry to have been the messenger. On the other hand, perhaps it isn't too late to clean up the ocean and maybe you, gentle viewer, will contribute some action that could yet save the whole silly, stupid lot of us.

Which brings us to the question of the social relevance, or lack thereof, of my paintings. Look at them again. They are a monument to something that is already, forever, lost.

Carson C.T. Collins
December 2000


For more information on this subject, see Sunken Nuke Subs Decay Toward Catastrophes at www.Rense.com

See also Many Nuclear Subs Litter Ocean Floor
at www.Seattlepi.com

 

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