Been Here A Day...why Haven't I Sold Anything Yet?
So my wife just convinced me to join the site and put up the photographs I take of beer and whatnot (that Angelina is a persuasive vicksen--see what I did there?). The composition I think is pretty cool, though the image quality isn't deep enough for larger sizes. But whatever...at least there's not a timestamp in the corner....
At any rate, I have a question: I've had one photo up for a couple of hours now and I still haven't sold a single print. Just exactly how long does it take? I'm lookin' to make some crazy stupid money off this one photo (enough to replace my previous $60k/yr full-time job), and I just don't understand why it's not selling yet. I figured out the math, and currently I need to make around an average of $1,000/day to make $60k by the end of the year, so I'm already behind by this photo not selling like Klingon bloodpies the very second I uploaded the image.
So am I doing something wrong? Is there an art god I need to sacrifice chalk and easels to? But....uhmmm...I'm also pretty sensitive, so if you could keep any and all remarks strictly positive, uplifting, and ultimately pandering I would really appreciate it.
Not a problem. You just have to print up a bunch of the PDF sales sheets for each image and leave them lying around at Octoberfest. (Sorry, you'll have to wait til next year for your next try since that's the only time big-time art buyers drink beer.)
W...I AM! In fact, today is International Stout Day, so I'm currently enjoying a Lion Stout from Sri Lanka to commemorate the day. =)
Excellent idea, John. However, each sheet of paper is like .08 cents each, and that really cuts into my overhead of "not wanting to spend a single dime until I sell at least 10 prints". So that is just not going to work. Oh, and drunks don't know how to read. It is known.
Bradley, are you saying that not only do I need more than ONE option for customers to choose from, but that further "research" for different photos may be needed?
Nope, complete bollocks. There's your one photo. It's terrificly wonderful (just ask me), and everyone should want that one. I'm done. Gonna just kick back and wait for the riches to roll in so I can finally get that miniature giraffe I've always wanted (friggin' Russians can't have all the opulence).
Frankly, mate, you've got your pricing wrong. If you need $60,000 a year then you should price it at about $240,000 for the smallest size. That way, when it DOES sell, you won't need to sit worrying about making ends meet until the next sale. Also, this is the art world: price things low and people will think you don't value them, put a big price on it and people will fall over themselves to have one. Think marketing!
Now, where's my beer?
I think in your 700 bottles of beer on the wall series, you need to do a self portrait each day after you drink the beer, and in the descriptions include the daily count, the total count, your rating of that particular brand of beer, and the sports score of the game you watched during your libation. You need these additional statistics to add the kind of sophistication that today's art consumer requires for conceptual/performance art of this kind. But your aesthetic mileage may vary. Maybe you should get a blood alcohol meter (the blow thru kind, I suppose) and include the reading of your blood alcohol level, as well. It's not recommended, but if you insist on drinking and driving, be sure to use a dash cam as well to document the total experience.
The best you can do is to make prices for every size and material universal,let say 1000 usd.
Otherwise you'll be discouraged by earning 47 dollars per piece.
Because of that I just delayed purchase of your definitely unforgettable art.
Funny. We were talking about reducing the noise in his photos, but I don't have a program specifically for noise reduction. I tried to work with one of his images in a regular editing program and I wasn't satisfied with how much detail was lost in order to reduce the noise.
Lightroom has good noise reduction, topaz has seriously good noise reduction...imho and experience with way more noise than you have here! Topaz denoise can be purchased by itself and used as a plug-in, plugs in tooooo....well, check the specs, it plugs into several programs.
edit: you can recover some detail in topaz too and in lightroom.
See Kyle, you're participating and already had 48 views, just on that one lonely bottle, yep, needs some friends!
It's really all about the bots. You have to get those little guys to visit...and visit often. Once they start coming around, give them a pint of your best. They tend to travel in packs, and if you can get them a bit tipsy (one for you...one for the bots etc.) who know what might happen, Sober bots are a little cheap of you ask me, but....drunk bots....We all might get a sale or two! That's the real secret around here!
Thanks for the warm welcomes. Got a few more up...primarily outdoor shots (those naturally tended to have significantly less noise so they made for quick and easy uploads). Aaaaaaand...with that many photos now, I fully expect to be wealthy enough to just go ahead and buy FAA outright by the end of the month. Happy Thanksgiving indeed!
I'll buy everyone a round once that happens. Go ahead and wait for it.
Millions, if not billions of photographs are onsale online.
You must devise a strategy whereby your images rise
(like the bubbles in champagne?) to the surface so
coming to the attention of the buyers of art out there.
Enter competitions - inaugurate competitions. Have as
many sites online stacked with your stuff e.g. flickr, 500px,
artfreelife, Google+, facebook, photographyblog, smugmug,
zenfolio, world-photography-organisation, hdrspotting, pinterest,
pixoto, digital-photography-school, seen-by, photographytalk
- I could go on... !
Also, curate a group on faa or flickr or G+ - again people
wandering by to see what your group/community contains
oftentimes check-out your art too! I have noticed that some
people exhibit an artistic sensibility not so much in their
published art, but in their re-posting of the gems and jewels
they find in other postings - such notables in that school
include Jaycee Crawford, and Marilyn Alejandro (not on faa)
With such auspicious sensibilities on display, I was
motivated to consider their own art (as well as the re-posts)
which was not unremarkable.
You are lucky you are married to my photo editor. I would be lost without your wife. hope you get more photo's of beer to make your chances better in selling here. Welcome to FAA Kyle and our little community here :)
"...I have a question: I've had one photo up for a couple of hours now and I still haven't sold a single print. Just exactly how long does it take? I'm lookin' to make some crazy stupid money off this one photo (enough to replace my previous $60k/yr full-time job),.."
Now is the time to call your family and beg them to buy a print or two of yours. Fine Art America has a few favorites that they promote. The rest of us are here to use this site as our online photo club. Get used to it. We are here to help Fine Art America make money, not the other way around,
No, Barbara...two days in and not a single sale. Only conclusion I can come to is that it's all just COMPLETE GARBAGE and that I am perhaps the worst photographer ever to disgrace the realm of soul-stealing. I'm just gonna delete my account and bemoan my ill fortune across the interwebs, slandering the name of FAA in the process because this site obviously doesn't work.
Woe to those who ARE selling anything, for they've apparently sold their souls to the Nine Hells and in service of Cthulu, having sacrificed any number of infant puppy cats in order to broker such a deal. Woe to ye, sir and/or ma'am. WOE TO YE!
Have a beer and call us in the morning, there will be bluebirds over the cliffs of Littleton by then.All will be well and the course of your life will continue along the happy road to personal fulfillment.
Seriously, here is what you do. Keep drinking beer but simply have your wife create a gallery under her profile. Name it: Beer Fund Gallery. She has the search engine thing down to a science. Piggy back off her longevity. lol