The Beautiful Art Of Street Photography

Are there 2 or 3 p's in Creepy?

Rich Franco

I don't see anything creepy here. First shot was from a respectable distance (no low angle upwards even...) and the second really tells a story.

I'm still trying to overcome my innate shyness at pointing the camera anywhere in public for street photos, even though I specifically bought a smaller rangefinder style camera for that purpose instead of using the big DSLR.

Of the few that I have got :

An exhibitionist who would't be camera shy, and two people steadfastly ignoring him.


At the lake. I was also waist deep in the water.
This is one of those very shallow lakes, we were about 100M from shore.
No hiding behind a tree for this shot.


Walking to the car after work:


At a marina on Salt Spring Island. Not sure if this one counts as street.

trever,
Well done and well said...and good candid's as well. Fine Art America generally speaking is NOT the place for street photographers. It's more for still life, landscape, flowers, etc.

By the way, my street images are not all of secular ladies....

I think its not so right that FAA is not a place for the street photography.. The question is its not much buyers for this kind of photography, but its a real art.

Here is one of the best street photographers I ever knew, with philosophic view of life and its a real art captured with keen point and eye. Michel Verhoef. Just look at his gallery.

i really think you should have a not safe for work on the header of this. and i still don't consider shooting the back side of a lady, and adding that title to it - street photography any more.


---Mike Savad

i would consider this street photography, though be it the amount of work i did on the reflections was a bit of a pain.


---Mike Savad

Mike,
thanks for your opinion. I guess this is why you prefer doing still life. Different styles for different people.

Jenny, Yep, I agree, thanks for showing us such beautiful street images...

Jenny, um, if you know anything about what is "real art," then you would know that street photography is a major art genre and has been so for the past 75 years or so.

http://www.iphotocentral.com/search/result_list.php/256/Henri+Cartier-Bresson

Bresson was one of the great street photographers....His prints sell in the thousands of dollars and can be purchased by major art dealers around the world.

Mike,
I don't know if a "manipulated/changed" image can be a "true" street image. That said, it's a beautiful piece of art.

it has nothing to do with still lives.

you may photograph and sell people as long as you don't put them in a poor light - that's the law. and by placing a particular innuendo on them, that's a bad light.


---Mike Savad

Well, I don't see this everyday, glad I had my camera to capture this.

Yes, Robert Im absolutely agree and I just wondered why its not have any attention here on FAA this kind of art... I fell in love with street photography not long ago, but its so much exciting as you are deeply inside the real life, catching the hidden interaction in between the people, the unexpected situations , opening the world of intimate relations...

if i didn't mention it, you wouldn't have known. like if i used a polarizer, it may not have needed any.






---Mike Savad

Mike objects to my title...Why old men hating being old....(a photo of two beautiful young ladies walking)
He describes this title as "innuendo"
noun
his innuendoes were usually just thinly veiled sexual remarks: insinuation, suggestion, intimation, implication, hint, overtone, undertone, allusion, reference; aspersion, slur.

For the life of me, I see NO innuendo, no slur, no aspersion, no insinuation, no lewdness.....
If anything, it is simply a sad fact of life for old men. they no longer have any chance of having a beautiful young lady as a girlfriend. My title may fall under that category of PATHOS...

pathos
a quality that evokes pity or sadness: the actor injects his customary humor and pathos into the role.

I am 71 years old. The ladies in my picture are what? 22? This is pathos, not innuendo.

Mike,
I love your street art and I am jealous. Great work. If I had but one artist to collect here on faa, it would be U. Hope that my wife and I win the lottery one day. We will make you rich.

the title is suggestive enough to say what you want it to say. and i would say its enough to be sued if pressed. it's one thing to call it - two ladies on the street, a friends day out, or something that has no other suggestive meanings. it's another to do what this is.

in a court of law, pathos won't come up, only damages to reputation and so on, provided they can prove that's them in that picture. in either case one should be careful how they title things because of the suggestive nature of things, it can come back to haunt you at unexpected times.

as pathos as it might be.

---Mike Savad

Mike, with all respect to you and what you are doing, Im afraid I wouldnt consider your images presented here as street photography at its purest, more suitable scenes of life maybe..
Its interesting, beautifully edited but not street photography.. Street photography its a breath of life, it cant be edited hardly...

Here's a few of mine.

Robert - I'm not sure what you meant when you said that a manipulated image can't be a true "street image". Why not?

Trevor - I'm self-conscious about taking pictures of people also. That's why I just bought the Sony DSC-HX50V which has a 30x optical zoom and is a small point and shoot camera. People don't notice you that much if you're the distance of a football field away.




-- Susan Savad

Susan, thats what I said, breath should be as breath as it is, as seen and done. The same with your beautiful images its scenes of life but not what call street photography..

Mike, I see we have a 100 percent disagreement here. You have your opinion, I have mine. My title brims with PATHOS....about what healthy straight old men feel when they see beautiful young women. You seem to be reading smut into it for whatever reason of yours.

Also, just to review the legality of street photography. Here are some general guidelines...Disclaimer: My words do not constitute legal advice.

1....simply photographing a person in public view — including children and law enforcement officials — does not require either a model release or expressed consent.

2....as long as your shooting position is on public ground, you can photograph whatever you wish; this includes subjects situated on private property but within public view, such as a couple sitting on a restaurant patio that you can view from the street. Similarly, contrary to popular belief, you do not need to obtain parental or guardian consent to photograph children on or visible from public property.

3....if you had the right to photograph a subject or scene, generally speaking, you also have the authority to display the photograph as an illustration of art or news – and that includes showing those images on your blog, in print, in news media, and in your photography portfolio (print or online). Indeed, you can even sell prints or digital copies of your street photography.

I used to think "street photography" denotes photos taken on a street -- I suppose I'm too literal-minded. Recently a buyer of this one wrote me a note about it and used the term, so my thinking has changed.

This street image also shows the artist as a young man (lower right side)....The lovely lady gave me the cold shoulder.

Article about Arne Svenson's photos and the case to be made if someone can recognize himself/herself in a photo.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/05/nyc-tribeca-residents-enraged-over-photos-they-claim-violate-their-privacy/

And Robert, Henry Cartier- Bresson (the same as Ansel Adams) its just a magic of the famous name, you cant even imagine how many more talented and unique works for now possible to find from the modern "ordinary" photographers. The famous names magnetizing but that all, photography went far far away from those times and now I can see many brilliant photos which just not valuing because the public doesnt know the names... Pity.

Rona, here is the image which once again NOT a street photography. Street photography is the purest slice of life, non expected but caught at the flight, the fleeting story, which can be very evident or sometimes hidden and you have to watch carefully and find what attracted photographer and what he pointed to...
Here is just street, nothing more..
Your customer, Im sure he is happy with the image, but he was wrong in the meaning of street photography.



By the way here is also not a street photography although the man staying right on the street...

thought i would post some links about hdr and street photography since each person has their own ideas and there is no such thing as one type as long as it documents life on the streets:

http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=807 - he uses hdr in street scenes

http://www.alexcoghe.com/straight-approach-versus-image-manipulation-when-comes-street-photography/ - he has doesn't have any solid problems with hdr other than he doesn't like hdr, and then posts that reuters guide to documentary photography, but there are no street rules.


now if you have to follow a rules of a contest, then i would say yes, follow the rules, but only because everyone else should be as well.

http://www.miamistreetphotographyfestival.org/#!services/component_71401 like this one does not want hdr. but it also goes on to say:

You agree that the photograph does not infringe on the copyrights, trademarks, moral rights, rights of privacy/publicity or intellectual property rights of any person or entity, and that no other party has any right, title, claim, or interest in the photograph.

here are the guidelines they look for - see if they match up with your own:

• Does it fit within the realm of street photography?
• Authentic representation of scene without use of digital darkroom (see exceptions)
• Is it compelling?
• How unique is the depiction?
• Does it suggest a narrative? Do we want to know more?
• Is there empathy for the subject matter?
• Originality
• Composition
• Is the image powerful or predictable?

looking through these links you'll find just as many people saying it's ok and it's about what you saw and the story. and others are against saying it's more about documentary. it's almost like saying, it's not a good wine unless it was made in france. you'll have pro and con against that too.


http://robinwong.blogspot.com/2013/05/things-to-consider-when-shooting-on.html this is a nice page to look at. it shows a candid look that i can call street photos. i find it interesting that many people are actually using a small camera. mostly because it's light and most people don't notice you. and since many of these images don't need to be totally sharp it may be an ideal camera to use. --- read #4 by the way.


---Mike Savad

here's a link about etiquette:
http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2013/06/what-ive-learned-in-the-trenches-the-5-step-guide-to-better-street-snapshot-photography/


---Mike Savad

Rosemary and Mike...
Thanks for the articles on "street." Much appreciated and read. I am currently adding many articles on Street photography to my folder on that topic.

Here is an article on Selling our Street Images....

http://www.yanidel.net/selling-street-photographs-part-i/

Also...
"Edit: In the US, you are allowed to sell a recognizable photo of someone on the street as a work of art. What you are not allowed to do is to sell it for commercial photography — that is to say, photos being used to sell a product. This would prevent the sale of photos of a recognizable person to (let’s say) a stock photo service, but not as a work of art, or photojournalistic purposes."

Used google street to make street images?????? Wow....Weird....and/or funny

that guy sold the rights to images to magazines, but he didn't mention anything about a release from those people. as far as magazines go, i don't know if that's considered commercial or editorial.

he has pictures of children that were used as an ad - did he get permission - or is this just allowed in his area? i thought france was much more strict about these rules.

his idea behind model releases will lead him to court. if he's using these images as stock, anyone can sue him for any number of reasons. the images he showed had faces that were easily recognizable. in the US if those children were used by an adoption agency, or something with abuse, or that chess guy was used for an old age home or something like that. those are all cases where he could get into A LOT of trouble. and while it hasn't happened to him yet, doesn't mean it won't.


the comments reflect my own questions. the person buying the image wouldn't be the one to get in trouble, you the photographer would be the one in trouble. so him discussing it - won't prevent him from being sued if used improperly and once it's stock it can be used anywhere.

the laws are different everywhere, i wouldn't honestly use this guide as a way to sell things. and no street photo of any kind should be used as stock due to copyright, trademark logo usage and the people inside of it.


---Mike Savad

Love Funny Face.....

"If a modelrelase is needed in the end, it's the book publisher or company you sold the image to, that would or could get sued, and the publisher can't blame the photographer either, because it's publisher's responsibility to ask for a model release."

That might be true where you live, but there have been a lot of lawsuits against photographers for allowing images to be published that the model/person did not sign releases for.
Cameron Diaz sued and won when a photographer she modeled for sold topless photos of her is the first that comes to mind. http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00003444.html
Here, it falls on the photographer to have signed release, not a publisher.

about street photography....



about............. loneliness

why doesn't this thread die already?


---Mike Savad

You like Zazzle, he likes Street Photography.

It's ok as long as the harangues stop.....horses for courses....Don't look !!

This is my last look !!

Vivian .... I'll be happy ....... if you continue this topic :)



I'm glad you like it :)

how is that top one at all street photography?


---Mike Savad

lol, Mike.......can't resist?

Um, which topic......?

Mike, there is no need for you to pop in here if you are not interested in the thread and think it should die

Leave it to those who want to chat properly

Street photography? Did someone say "Street Photography" ? hahahaha...oh, sorry....
Did you know that street photography is alive and well around the world with thousands of men and women taking candid pictures of people in public? Yep, it's true.

In fact, I practice this wonderful art form at least twice a week. Why just today.....

I love looking at everyone's street photography.

Laura,
So do I. It's so "natural." A slice of life. I also like putting bible verses to some of my street images. Here is an example...Look at the baby boy...To me he seems to be leading his family and so I remembered:

Isaiah 11:6
King James Version (KJV)
The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

St Anthony's Feast North End, Boston.....................

If you want to put bible quotes on your art, please, by all means....

If you put them in the threads you have crossed the religion boundary.

Please take some time to review the rules here, again. http://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=260080

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Philip that was a great find!