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Another Id Needed

Posted by: Murray Bloom on 06/13/2013 - 7:23 AM

This could be a real challenge, considering how little there is to go on. For tagging purposes, does anyone know what the flower is, or even the bug? The bug is about the size of a pin head.


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Posted by: Lara Ellis on 06/13/2013 - 7:29 AM

Not sure about the bug but the flower looks like some kind of hibiscus :) The flower may even be a marsh mallow. Was it growing near water? It looks like the marsh mallow I see at the beach too which I think is in the same family as hibiscus.

 

Posted by: Janice Drew on 06/13/2013 - 7:32 AM

Hibiscus.

 

Posted by: Marianna Mills on 06/13/2013 - 7:34 AM

I told you...

 

Posted by: Murray Bloom on 06/13/2013 - 7:39 AM

Funny, honey! I nearly fell off my chair. The majority rules.

 

Posted by: Alfred Ng on 06/13/2013 - 7:40 AM

Murray, looking at the center with the dark pink and white color combination I believe it is a "Rose of Sharon" which looks a lot like hibiscus.

 

Posted by: Murray Bloom on 06/13/2013 - 7:42 AM

Sh*t! I thought we had it.

Thanks, Alfred. ;-)

 

Posted by: Marianna Mills on 06/13/2013 - 7:42 AM

..believe me next time ;)

 

Posted by: Alfred Ng on 06/13/2013 - 7:45 AM

here is one I found on flickr

Rose Of Sharon

 

Posted by: Janice Drew on 06/13/2013 - 7:47 AM

Alfred is right. I just googled images of rose of sharon too.

 

Posted by: Murray Bloom on 06/13/2013 - 7:49 AM

I don't know. The structure of the center thing is completely different.

 

Posted by: Marianna Mills on 06/13/2013 - 7:49 AM

Now we identified the flower, I am very interested about the bug. Looks so cute :)

 

Posted by: Roger Swezey on 06/13/2013 - 7:53 AM

Just Googled (Image) Both....I go with Hibiscus

 

Posted by: Murray Bloom on 06/13/2013 - 7:54 AM

Okay Ms. Mills, here's the bug:


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Posted by: Marianna Mills on 06/13/2013 - 7:55 AM

Yes, mostly they are a little different, but I found one image very similar to your flower's center.

 

Posted by: Murray Bloom on 06/13/2013 - 2:39 PM

Thanks, everyone. I guess the bug will remain a mystery.

 

Posted by: Carrie Cranwill on 06/13/2013 - 2:43 PM

Rose of Sharon is a common name for Hibiscus (Hibiscus syriacus) -same flower. No idea on the bug.

 

Posted by: Lawrence Supino on 06/13/2013 - 2:57 PM

It's a Hibiscus, the bug's name is Sharon.

 

Posted by: Murray Bloom on 06/13/2013 - 3:01 PM

Thanks, Lawrence. That makes perfect sense!

 

Posted by: Shane Bechler on 06/13/2013 - 3:03 PM

I would say this is a Hibiscus. I have 4 hibiscus plants in my yard and one of them produces flowers exactly this color (white with red center). The others are red, pink, and yellow/red. The center stem is different from the Rose of Sharon flower (as you stated above). I have those growing in my yard too.

Do you recall what the plant itself looked like? The Rose of Sharon can get very tall and grows as a large bush. The hibiscus has several long stalks coming up and grows to about 4 to 5 feet in height. The hibiscus stalks die off each year and regrows new stalks. The Rose of Sharon continues to grow from the prior year's stalks and can form an extremely large bush.

 

Posted by: Ann Powell on 06/13/2013 - 3:27 PM

the center stalk looks like this one to me, which I know for a fact is hibiscus because it is in my garden. I have altered the colors in this image.

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Posted by: Murray Bloom on 06/13/2013 - 3:30 PM

Thanks Ann. That certainly sounds definitive.

You wouldn't happen to have any of those bugs, would ya?


- Thanks also to all those whom I haven't mentioned by name -

 

Posted by: Chaline Ouellet on 06/13/2013 - 3:31 PM

Polydrusus formosus- is most likely the name of the bug. common name turquoise beetle

 

Posted by: Murray Bloom on 06/13/2013 - 3:34 PM

Wow!

Thank you, Chaline. They make them in Mexico, right? Just kidding.

 

Posted by: Roy Erickson on 06/13/2013 - 3:37 PM

Definitely a member of the hibiscus family - I don't think rose of sharon variety. a pic of the leaves would tell the story. macros can lie.

 

Posted by: Gregory Scott on 06/13/2013 - 3:48 PM

It's a hibiscus, but some flowers in this family are called "Rose of Sharon" or "Mallow" so I would consider them possible synonyms. Don't forget blossom, bloom, floral, flora, pistil, stamen, petal, horticulture, horticultural, and so on.

 

Posted by: Chaline Ouellet on 06/13/2013 - 4:59 PM

You're welcome! Not sure if they are made in Mexico! :) perhaps Arizona :)

 

Posted by: Carrie Cranwill on 06/13/2013 - 5:52 PM

This is probably information overkill but I am a bit of a plant geek at times.

From the USDA.gov site - probably more info than you would ever want on that site, but there seems to be some confusion on the plants. Sorry the link would not paste in correctly.


Classification:
Hibiscus syriacus L.

Click on a scientific name below to expand it in the PLANTS Classification Report.
Kingdom Plantae Plants
Subkingdom Tracheobionta Vascular plants
Superdivision Spermatophyta Seed plants
Division Magnoliophyta Flowering plants
Class Magnoliopsida Dicotyledons
Subclass Dilleniidae
Order Malvales
Family Malvaceae Mallow family
Genus Hibiscus L. rosemallow
Species Hibiscus syriacus L. rose of Sharon

Then beyond that add on all the varietes/cultivars that are being developed and sold by the nursery industry. They can all look very different and have extremely different characteristics but are of the same species.


 

Posted by: Roy Erickson on 06/13/2013 - 6:50 PM

 

Posted by: EricaMaxine Price on 06/13/2013 - 6:56 PM

They are related.

 

Posted by: Carrie Cranwill on 06/13/2013 - 7:17 PM

I was not saying it is a rose of sharon, I was just saying that rose of sharon is a hibiscus. I just thought it would help if people saw the "family tree". Someone at some point indicated they were two different plants, as in the rose of sharon was not a hibiscus (maybe I read it wrong). That is all I was getting at. :)

 

Posted by: Roy Erickson on 06/13/2013 - 7:19 PM

They are all the Hibiscus family - I think we were simply trying to identify the flower and while it is a Hibiscus - it is not a mallow nor a "rose of sharon" variety.

 

Posted by: Carrie Cranwill on 06/13/2013 - 7:46 PM

As far as id goes - this would be my guess but without seeing it in person.............


Hibiscus moscheutos L.
crimsoneyed rosemallow

Looks pretty close in the photos

 

Posted by: Bradford Martin on 06/13/2013 - 8:00 PM

 

Posted by: Lara Ellis on 06/13/2013 - 8:36 PM

 

Posted by: Murray Bloom on 06/13/2013 - 8:44 PM

I knew this wouldn't be easy. For the most part, I think I mostly agree with Lara and anyone who more or less agrees with her.


:-)

 

Posted by: Roy Erickson on 06/13/2013 - 9:16 PM

OK - here is my "Marsh Mallow" - rose mallow - Wild Hibiscus

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Posted by: Roy Erickson on 06/13/2013 - 9:18 PM

The answer to this may have been simple - if we knew where the picture was taken and IF there had been a leaf to go along with the macro of the inside, or perhaps if we'd seen the whole flower.

 

Posted by: Anne Barberi on 06/13/2013 - 9:23 PM

Looks like hibiscus-bug is in the Japanese beetle family--don't know the name.😔

 

Posted by: Francie Davis on 06/13/2013 - 9:25 PM

Don't know what kind of flower it is, but it's an awesome shot!

 

Posted by: Murray Bloom on 06/13/2013 - 9:29 PM

The picture was taken in Maryland. I never shot a leaf because I wasn't thinking of identification at the time. Stupid me.

The leaves were definitely green, though. I think.

 

Posted by: Lara Ellis on 06/14/2013 - 9:17 AM

@ Murray were these in the wild or in a manicured landscape? If in the wild and near the bay it is most likely the Marsh Mallow variety. I love these flowers they are so beautiful! I can't wait to try out my macro on them the next time we head to the beach :)

 

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