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Public Apology To Nathalie

Posted by: Gene Gregory on 05/16/2013 - 10:18 AM

After a heated and public discussion yesterday, - I remembered that cooler heads should always prevail. And, I am not really comfortable with any feeling of ill-will. I hereby sincerely apologize to Nathalie Chavieve for the misunderstanding, no matter who was right or wrong. Hopefully there was no wrong, just different views. Without going into the reason I was un-easy with the tone, she had taken the time to offer an intelligent and constructive opinion. I do appreciate it, and one thing I have learned from this is that we probably should not give an opinion of someones else's opinion. ; )
In every debate, each side clearly sees their own view, but perhaps we should strive to see the views of others before we take a stand.
Peace & luv !












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Posted by: Gene Gregory on 05/16/2013 - 3:15 PM












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Posted by: Janine Riley on 05/16/2013 - 3:21 PM

Applause, well said.

 

Posted by: Catherine Howard on 05/16/2013 - 3:32 PM



You, dear sir, are the epitome of grace and decency.

 

Posted by: Roseann Caputo on 05/16/2013 - 3:33 PM

Nicely done, Gene.

 

Posted by: Janice Drew on 05/16/2013 - 3:51 PM

Well stated, Gene.

 

Posted by: Vivian ANDERSON on 05/16/2013 - 3:55 PM

I trust this will be publicly acknowledged by the recipient, with the same good grace,Gene, well done.

 

Posted by: Zeana Romanovna on 05/16/2013 - 4:09 PM

You're sweet Mr Gregory ;)

 

Posted by: Alfred Ng on 05/16/2013 - 4:19 PM

Gene, you are a class act!
I think most of the times when someone offers advice of others' work are thinking to helps and or expects that person can benefit and improve from it.

 

Posted by: ANA MARIA EDULESCU on 05/16/2013 - 4:22 PM

So gentle men in the purest sense of the word still exist. You're one of them, Sir.

 

Posted by: Gene Gregory on 05/16/2013 - 4:24 PM

Thank you guys... but I did not post this to be praised or anything like that. LOL
I just wanted the recepient to know my feelings & let it all be in the past.

 

Posted by: JAXINE Cummins on 05/16/2013 - 4:24 PM

Gene, your a special man, Class act, and all of the above.

so well said.

 

Posted by: Nathalie Chavieve on 05/16/2013 - 5:05 PM

Gene :

There is always will be people who asking for critique and who will give a critique. Both have to consider consequences of their actions.

If some one looking for public opinion be aware there always be some one who can tell a completely different point of view and in different manner. And if some one can not accept or handle different opinions and manners , is better to stay in small and frendly community.

I do not know if my manner to expres my critique was so harsh. Probably. For some one. But at least, I said my honest opinion and I stayed true to myself. It is hard to receive a hard critique if you are not ready for it.


No hard feelings, as I do not expect that some one will patting me on the back.


No apologies was necessary.

 

Posted by: Gene Gregory on 05/16/2013 - 7:31 PM

Nathalie my dear..... You are perfectly correct. It is understandable that we may not have communicated well, and you speak Finnish, and I barely speak Texan. I am an uneducated old cowboy who never learned the proper way of painting. I do however, sincerely value your apparent knowledge of art. You were absolutly right about my painting. It needs work.
Allow me to give you a hug, and after viewing your great work, you are the master. May we be the best of friends, and I hope to learn from you in the future.
Please accept these roses as a jesture of peace and forgiveness.

roses photo: Roses bunch 02 Rosesbunch02a_zps7ee7bcfa.png

Best wishes always !

 

Posted by: Nathalie Chavieve on 05/17/2013 - 5:24 AM

Gene:

My opinion of your work was not meant to question your education, artistic abilities, your personal values and so on.

Also I am not looking for any kind of prise, appreciation and especially flattery. As I have mentioned already I have not any hard feelings for you nor for the others, and I do not see any reason for you to ask for forgiveness and for me, to forgive.

Thank you for the flowers and your kind regards.

I always will stand for peace and love.

 

Posted by: Nathalie Chavieve on 05/17/2013 - 5:32 AM

P.S.

For the rest of the artist here who have called me rude, harsh, blunt, out of line and etc, I have to say that by calling me so does not make you more better and more polite than me. And if you were clever, polite and wise enough , you would not interfere this matter between me and Gene.

About politeness : in most of the cases, behind of mask of politeness always hides hypocrisy, servility, jealousy ,greed and a herd mentality, which rules the society . And if some one has different opinion and manner to express it , this some one will be always treated as black sheep.

Truth is difficult to accept.

"...I wanted to eat of the fruit of all the trees in the garden of the world... And so, indeed, I went out, and so I lived. My only mistake was that I confined myself so exclusively to the trees of what seemed to me the sun-lit side of the garden, and shunned the other side for its shadow and its gloom .."

Oscar Wild

 

Posted by: Vivian ANDERSON on 05/17/2013 - 6:38 AM

Second thoughts. I think the flowers and sincere apology would have been much better said, and then the thread closed. Or better still, the matter was about a personal issue, best said privately, off forum. Just saying. Not wishing to be addressed personally. All the best to you both.

 

Posted by: Aidan Moran on 05/17/2013 - 7:09 AM

You can always count on Oscar Wild. Great quote.

 

Posted by: Enver Larney on 05/17/2013 - 7:48 AM

Quote "About politeness : in most of the cases, behind of mask of politeness always hides hypocrisy, servility, jealousy, greed and a herd mentality, which rules the society . And if some one has different opinion and manner to express it , this some one will be always treated as black sheep." Unquote Nathalie

I agree with you Nathalie....but look at the reasons for this. Artists can either all swim in the same direction in order to appease popular perception or they can stand alone and gain a greater conviction and respect for themselves through the act of challenge. Greatness have always found discomfort in appeasement and its obvious pitfalls.....I also agree with Vivian with regard nobility of spirit. This bear pit of FAA however is a strange place at the best of times where public engagement can come at considerable risk thus hardly a place to seek critique, pity or acceptance by strangers. As a professional tool it seems unrivalled but an alternative to tactile reality may yet prove to be but a mirage and slippery illusive.

 

Posted by: Nathalie Chavieve on 05/17/2013 - 8:18 AM

Vivian : It was said privately, but without response. The thread I started was addressed to Gene. If someone took it too personally and tried to defend Gene , it their own problem. But, by doing that , they did Gene a disservice, making him looks like he his uncapable to stand for him self.

 

Posted by: Vivian ANDERSON on 05/17/2013 - 8:45 AM

Thanks Enver. Stirring the forum pot , just makes matters worse....yes...pots and kettles.....such is life here....

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Posted by: Isabella F Abbie Shores on 05/17/2013 - 8:49 AM

This is a thread by Gene to Nathalie.
There is no need for others to get involved

I am now closing it as you can continue it off the forum Nathalie and Gene if you feel the need

 

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