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There have been lively debates lately about rules, policies, etc. on Fine Art America.
Reading it all, I have been surprised that the focus of debate is about the specific rule or policy, and that a much larger point is being overlooked. And that larger point goes well beyond any single policy.
There are lots of private companies that do change their rules and policies due to "pressure" put on them by their customers to make a change. So, while I agree it is immature to have a tantrum about it, I can see why people do express their disagreements, and/or request for changes to policies. I do believe that there have been changes made based on reasonable input from customers here.
"Oh Dan ..... you're so desperate ... you certainly don't miss a single chance to get your name out, no matter what !!"
I hope you were joking about that. If not, it's somewhat, well..."trollish"
There was no attempt to "get my name out."
I am here to sell art. If I was going to do anything at all in the "promotional" arena, it would certainly be associated with my work, and images would be included. And it certainly would not be buried in an in-house blog on FAA.
"Besides, I can't post threads that contain images to promote myself because I'll get jumped on by Dan!"
I like the discussions. Look at the ground we've covered just today: masturbating women, advertising your work, rock 'n roll, photojournalism, license negotiations, suing the pants off people vs the golden rule, Adobe subscriptions. I get none of that in the image threads. Nada.
Actually, one of the biggest differences between FAA and much other private business web-space, is that even if you can't do whatever you want, you do get to, " flail your arms and legs about and throw a hissy fit," on the forum almost indefinitely. On most sales sites anything like a complaint is shut down pretty early on the forums. I think Sean must subscribe to the Dr. Spock method of child/artist raising. ;)
If you don't like the rules here - as I said to 19 year old boy child - the door is there - go make a place for yourself - and he did. Poor child has had his ups and downs with life - but which of us has not. I'm sure that there are printers that are only too willing to take on a new venue and make some more money off of your ruleless POD site.
and to each of us - the whole world IS wrong and we are right. but most often - we have to just grin and bare it.
"Why You Can't Do What You Want On Fine Art America"
Now Dan, that depends on what you want to do does it not? many of FAA members do exactly what they want to do on FAA.
BTW, your blog is right on target:)
Hello Dan, I call it expressing yourself, freedom of speech as long as the comments remain in context. I joined in October I think and there were a few discussion threads and some of my comments where zapped! I can not help but laugh because I remember saying once the discussion threads some of them reminded me of the old aol chat forums.....
This is specifically for the censors, as she is nude and I will be adding porn to the keywords, and for Roger, because he will see I have not yet acknowledged the sculptor but I am trying to figure out who did it and where it is from....
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I was once told on another photo site a woman described my photo with the spanish word for Veg. as posted by Abbie. As an example I have posted my photo of forks here in this forum..., in the instance on the other site because of what the other artist commented about my submission generated so much attention from her comment, the photo attained the recognition it deserved. My comment was it was a form of advertising and advertising is a form of commercial art or a photo, it generates business, without it where would the economy be globally....I have not heard that expression in many years we would say here in New Orleans All meat and no potatoes......lol
@ Mike did the matter of your being banned from google ever get lifted because of your method of approach selling your work....I have not noticed any comment back from you about that.....your personal situation is a good example.....
banned forever from google plus, but seeing as i didn't stop getting sales, anything that i got must have been a coincidence. they gave me a vague list of rules of what it might have been so who knows what it was. i remember getting into an argument with one person there, banned her, and for all i know she complained and it went down then. no idea, and no way to correct my actions. oh well.
"@Dan, personally I think all your discussion threads have certainly brought anot of interest to you personally, a potential client may see them and may generate more business than you can imagine....."
LOL. You've got a great sense of humor, Michael! LOL!
Seriously... I do not do it for sales. Yes, there may be some help here on FAA, but I remain convinced that potential buyers do not spend time looking at groups, reading forum posts, etc. People don't have time. If somebody wants an image for their new beach house, they jump on an art site, enter "lighthouse" into the search, do the transaction, and get on with their life.
I honestly believe that more can be accomplished if time and effort is spent in promotions outside of FAA. Any time spent here is probably better spent elsewhere.
That is why I asked about the benefits of forum posting in a thread created days before this one. I am not convinced many buyers have the desire, nor the time, to read these forums. If they are interested in any particular artist(s), they would be more likely to read the artist's blog to learn more about them, than they would be searching thru a forum looking for random posts here and there.
@Mike that always is in the back of my mind, someone with your high standards and reputation as a superior artist because of a rule that just seems unjust and seems somehow can be reversed...FAA promotes me on Facebook, and I download my work for everyone to see there.....and other have promoted me on google, but I fear of self promoting my work there because of your experience with them.....its baffling.....you would think they would have something like amnesty.....
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Allen the Britts can not take claim for that wording, but people in Mississippi USA used that expression many many many years ago, and it was punn used by happy people men or women, all meat and no potatoes, or all potatoes and no meat...lol it was a polite thing to say when in public......where exactly that expression originated who knows but its been used commonly among gay and straight friends I know........instead of being obscene or valgar in public....
'Meat and two veg' has replaced 'twig and berries' as my favorite euphemism!
I'm relatively new to the forums, but I don't see an issue with someone promoting themselves and trying to stay relevant and visible on a site that is designed to help artists promote themselves, stay relevant and visible. Just an observation. *shrug*
Go start your own website or blog or something. Anything.
I'm not offended by nudity, or sex, or masturbation. I've been known to engage in all three. But I'm here to sell and my paintings don't go with pornography. That's a different audience. And this site is not it.
Shock art is usually more shock than art. Anyone can make a picture of shiting on the Bible, the Koran, on the a statue of Buddha. I could take a photo of my husband's penis, but it wouldn't be art, just a snap shot. It takes no skill to shock and one depiction is no more shocking than another and rarely more artful. Anyone can do a crotch shot with or without a stimulating hand. If one isn't any better than another, it ain't art. Mapplethorpe, was a brilliant photographer, whether shooting flowers or kinky gay sex. But there was a hell of a lot more there than shock to his images. They were brilliantly composed and beautiful There was skill involved beyond the shock. But it still wouldn't belong here outside the anti porn screen. People have a right to choose what they want to see. They may well want to see Mapplethorpe, but they don't deserve to have Mapplethorpe thrust upon them.
John - If all rules are meant to be broken please go to the nearest movie theatre, buy a ticket and go into the movie. Wait about a half hour after the movie has started and either yell "fire" or "gun." Let me know how breaking that rule works out for you.