Q - The Collection Pic Of The Day

@Jane, no problem at all, critic is good if it is constructive, keep telling me. I want the best I can do and appreciate all help. Thanks for the input and keep them coming.
Gunter

@Gunter - the press release looks great and the phone photo is good now as well. I'm sorry if I sounded too critical before, you're putting a lot of work into the new group and it's much appreciated!

@Bob - agree, to deep in it though, next one we'll do it, it's not to big of a deal, thanks

I would change it to " from the comfort of their home or office " instead of "the convenience of the seat of their computer."

There is an audience outside FAA ??????????

One more channel for promotion.This one is targeting audience out of FAA circle.

Thanks Victor, this is different, I take the luck though

Gunter

Maybe you don't know but everyone here at FAA has a special place to post press releases.
Just go to behind the scenes - public profile - press release. Good luck!

The Press Release


Click here to download the PDF

Face book banner for members to download, perfect size, isolated, delete the white put any layer underneath. If .png needed email me

https://www.facebook.com/QTheCollection

Read some interesting threads here and can't believe what I saw

This is not really my business unless it's my photographs, but in case somebody want's to know about public domain photographs: here it is

http://fineartamerica.com/groups/q-collection.html?showmessage=true&messageid=1202627

Our first contest. OPEN TO ANYBODY Winning image will be included in Q - the collection

http://fineartamerica.com/contests/for-faa-members-who-are-not-in-q--the-collection.html?tab=overview

@Bob
Party like a photographer :)

This is such a fun discussion to read ;O)

no problem, that's just what i do.


---Mike Savad

@Mike ...... Thank you soooooooooo much for not stopping me

it's not the letter, it's the design and how the letter is used in that design that is trademarked. but take your chances. you don't need a trademark icon, you just have to defend that trademark. because if you don't you can lose it. you won't see a trademark symbol on everything. the fact that a few people already asked what the Q means - already shows that they have no idea what it means.


but if this whole method has worked for you in the past, and you sold lots of things before, i'm not stopping you.


---Mike Savad

Just hit 250 images, I don't care what people say about me, you guys are awesome, thaaaaaaaaaaaaaank you everybody, keep them coming.
Tap yourself on the shoulder, we got lots accomplished already and it was great teamwork.

Gunter

BTW: I need a press release, something like a one sheet. As you all know my English is limited. Anybody good in that and willing to submit one?

Inbox me and I give you keywords, or don't if you think you got the idea write it post it here and we get input from everybody.

Gunter

well said Bob

There is also the separation of content. One is about music and one is about fineart, no conflict. they are going after different customers.

Verdict is out, the logo stays as is. For all members of Q, it is available to download here:
http://www.qthecollection.com/images/Q-logo.jpg

If you are a member and take pride in it, please use it freely on your website. Example: proud member of .... featured in ........... pic of the day etc.
You don't have to link back, but if you do, we would love it. this would be the address:
http://fineartamerica.com/groups/q-collection.html

If you have a blog and would like to mention us, aaaaaaaaaawesome
If you are a member you can paste your blog in here:
http://blog.qthecollection.com/
Contact Greg if you have questions regarding the blog

Thanks
Gunter

Just made a phone call, the letter Q or any other single letter cannot be trademarked. What can be registered is a letter in an original font or a color pattern or original look, our font comes with Windows and is public domain. A solid color can also not be trademarked only a combination of multiple colors and that is tricky.

Mike, None of them has a registered or trademark icon

@Ian great catch.
It looks VERY Simular, luckily it is a different Font and it is in England. I see that they even have Q - the music, I swear I haven't seen it.
I know about this, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_(Zeitschrift) but it is german. This magazine is decades old and would be the first one to speak up. I think we are good. If somebody sends me a DMCA, I change it.
I also would go with the red and believe it really pops.
"the collection" to me is a much stronger statement and much more hip than Q - collection.

Great input everybody, thank you.

Something else: The letter Q was chosen with the word quality in mind, but is still negotiable. The letter stays but what it means is still negotiable.
So if anybody has a creative idea, and it could be anything, one word of course, I would love to hear it.

"Superb quality photos" is to clear for me, I like things like "the other side of the lens" although that one is to old.
I really like "Frozen Light" but did not use it yet, not sure. I would love to use the word light.
And very important, I want to build a brand, so everybody, at least in the industry knows, and there is no explanation needed. I know, far out, but I always reach for the stars.

I have the feeling, that at least everybody in here already see's the letter Q differently and recognizes the logo immediately. Browse FAA buttons for groups and contests etc. you might notice that it already means something to you. Now, all we need to do is grow it.

Gunter

https://www.google.com/search?um=1&safe=off&hl=en&biw=1914&bih=860&tbs=ic%3Aspecific%2Cisc%3Ared&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=q+logo&oq=q+logo&gs_l=img.3..0l10.8849.9468.0.9698.5.5.0.0.0.0.184.459.2j2.4.0...0.0...1c.1.12.img.ZDlyQRatL3U

many other Q logos you want to avoid. they would probably send a cease and desist order.


---Mike Savad

Mike, I'm building a brand, this ad is not designed to have somebody pick up the phone and order.
here's the link to the second ad with full text

Remember Nike for an example :Just do it!

http://fineartamerica.com/groups/q-collection.html?showmessage=true&messageid=1200518

what does any of that have to do with art? and do you think violence is the best way for someone to reach into their wallets? and why is there a plate of donuts there? is that dinner? can't you just say - we sell art, nice art, buy some art? and not have your own name splashed across it?

and remember think small. that's quite huge.

---Mike Savad

concept selling doesn't work well actually. it's like a commercial that has music only and then they flash the name on the screen, but your either peeing or getting a snack or a mixture of both to really be paying attention. which is why those companies go out of business so fast. no one ever hears the name. or they do it the other way around and it's all audio, when you mute it, you don't hear a thing.

while it might be a form of brand reinforcement, people who already buy it are clearly hooked. commercials are used to reel new people in.

when it's time for advertising, getting to the point is the best thing. and usually funny wins, but it's hard to do right and not be too annoying about it. i would cite examples but i doubt they play in other countries.


---Mike Savad

but they don't spend much on it. because they buy in bulk usually or have a framer make it, they won't spend hundreds on each, they will spend a set amount for the rights then print a ton of them. that's usually the mistake many people make. it's rare to find a hotel that wants art in this way. they buy in bulk, same with banks and the others.

the ad makes no sense. if you want to quote something put it on the bottom. the smallest hardest to read multi color type in a font that's hard to read, is on the bottom. and the only way people will see it is if they see the full size ad. most people use a phone, if they turned the images on they would have to scroll side to side to read it. ads should always be simple

Title
what your selling
why you should buy from me. anything else is a distraction. if you saw an ad like that, would you want to click on it and view it further? no, probably not. there is a reason why AD agencies charge so much. and why it's pretty hard to be a graphic artist.

first start with a small ad - something that would fit on the size of a business card. see what you can fit in there without making the font 4pt. then we will see what can be put on there. you aren't making a bill board. in fact the best bill boards have the fewest words. because people have a short attention span. many think that the large the ad the better. and the bigger the ad, the more words you can push on there.

and last - where will this ad go? there are no ads on a site that large. and if there was it would be really expensive. most of them are tiny ads or a banner. but most of those are killed by ad removers. i know i see very few of them.

think simple and to the point. don't use black as a background with white letters its hard to read, and i don't know what that orange thing is on there. or how it represents art.


---Mike Savad

Mike,

As I studied at university, there are different kind of publicity. Your are talking about the publicity tells what it is selling but you exemple of perfume publicity, that don't tell what they are selling, it is because they are not trying to get more buyers but only reassuring their presence, name, etc to those who know already.

Those comercial you call artistic are actually concepts. They are not selling the perfume it self but the perfume concept for those who know the brand already. They don't mind those who don't know the brand or the concept because they are not their public.

Gunter, unfortunately it doesn't work as an ad yet. There's no headline (headlines are 80% of an ad -- they are that important), no call to action and no contact information. Bad quote, too. You can't insult an audience into action.

Oh, let's just go all the way. On first glance the photo looks like a baby pacifier.

Where are you planning on running this? Who is the intended audience?

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How do we know those two dogs are gay?

Her is the full ad

http://fineartamerica.com/groups/q-collection.html?showmessage=true&messageid=1200332

BTW: Travel agencies and hotel resorts buying tons of prints for office and lobby. Only for print media, web and mass produced images like for the rooms they buy stock.

the ad:

get to the point - your pushing artists with high quality standards. don't mix up an ad for facebook quotes. you have about 3 seconds to capture the attention of someone and about 10 seconds for them to parse the data and want to move on. if the ad doesn't say what it's about people will totally ignore it. because Q is meaningless and the quote is grabbed. any good advertisement won't leave people scratching their head, humor works best but it has to be original. ever see those crazy perfume commercials? where they try to be artsy, but fail because i have no idea what they are selling at all. it's like that. quoting from Einstein makes even less sense. mostly the ad is lost, and i don't know what it's pushing. concentrate on art, and that's it.


also realize that stock - and art - are two different things. a zoo might want a gorilla like this. but i can't imagine it in any other spot, picture can be nice, but they also have to line up with a decorators taste, and unless they are doing a congo theme, that kind of picture, as nice as it is, won't fit in anywhere. travel agencies would look for this on a stock site first because it will be less money. the people that come here are decorating their home or office. decorators and framers shop here for the most part.

---Mike Savad

@ Ron, something to research

http://www.stocksy.com/
this is one of the most desired sites to be part of for photographers at the moment. I'm not doing the work for you but if you research you will find out. And yes, they do have Gorillas.
There are art lovers and people who like photography, there are travel agencies who would buy that picture and many other businesses. There is a market for everything. I know many places and people which would never hang a flower on the wall. Any good photograph is saleable.

I know Mike, how about this one, does that make sense to you?

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly." - Albert Einstein -

I'm beginning to have a problem with this whole thing. First - I'm looking at all the images on Q. And I realize it's your judgement of whats there and I'm not questioning the quality of any image - I'm questioning the saleability of the images. National Geographic or some travel mag to Africa might want that - but unless your camera broke while you were on safari and you lost all your images of the gorilla's - why would you purchase this image? I also realize it's my "artistic/aesthetic" taste against others and I've seen what some people purchase and always wonder if they really paid that much to get that image on their wall. I realize I have these same kind of images in my galleries - and I'm always questioning my judgement on putting them up there.

On my recent trip, all those snow pictures; hmmm, there might be two that are salable, like this one



why are the rest there?

and that ad will bring customers here? how so? will they know what that means?


---Mike Savad

first ad for Q - the collection

Thanks Michelle :)

I love your choices in pics of the day! What an amazing bio, Jean! Congrats for all your acomplishments!

Very well said Patricia, where have you been all the time, THANK YOU :)



Q - the collection

The wonderful capture, beautiful color, composition, visual interest and animal sensuality override any slight noise issues that appear when you click on the green box. Sometimes it's not about the technical expertise, but about the photo itself. And "Salad Greens" is simply delightful.

Pic of the day:

This image is available on Fine Art America. Please click on the image to see the countless options of paper, canvas etc., and frames.




About Jean Noren
Jean Noren has won recognition from the Smithsonian Magazine and the National Wildlife Federation. Her dragonfly photo was displayed in the Smithsonian Museum of American History. Jean has also received awards and honors from the New York Institute of Photography, The Nature Photographers of the Pacific Northwest, The Columbia Council of Camera Clubs, The Northwest Challenge and the Forest Grove Camera Club. Her work has been selected for exhibition in the state and international divisions of the Oregon State Fair where she routinely receives honorable mentions. Jean’s pictures have been published in the book The Best of Photography for 1996 and 2007, The Alert Diver Magazine, and can be seen on the Smithsonian and National Wildlife Federation web-sites. Her Wine in a web photo graces the back cover of Oregon's Blue Book for 2009-11. Her photos appear on a line of note cards and calendars and her art can be found on the walls of schools and professional offices in Washington County, as well as in resorts in Belize, The Bahamas, Honduras, and Fiji. Her artwork is available for purchase through Fine Art America.

Yes,

and this: http://www.qthecollection.com
and this: https://www.facebook.com/QTheCollection
and this: http://blog.qthecollection.com/
and this: https://www.facebook.com/groups/423104211112827/
and many more to come ..............

We did not even get started yet and everything is under construction, the response and traffic are unbelievable.

is this that advertising your were talking about?

---Mike Savad

Pic of the day http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/vivienne-gucwa.html

This image is available on Fine Art America. Please click on the image to see the countless options of paper, canvas etc., and frames.



About Vivienne Gucwa
New York City photography and writing by Vivienne Gucwa featuring the landscapes, architecture and neighborhoods of New York City. As a native New Yorker currently living on the Lower East Side, her photography and writing explore the ever changing urban landscapes of the five boroughs. In a city that changes and evolves at a fast pace, documenting these changes is a major focus of her work.

Her photography has been featured in a variety of publications online and in print, as well as TV: The Biography Channel, cover art for the book A Killer's Essence by Dave Zeltserman, cover art for the anthology It's Animal, but Merciful, cover art for the 'Lucky Now' single by Ryan Adams, Cover of the inaugural issue of the Lo-Down Magazine, Gallery showing - Mars Bar Retrospective - at Plush NYC, ABC News Online, NBC News Online, The National Endowment for the Humanities Magazine, Io Donna - Corriere Della Sera, on a billboard screen in midtown Manhattan during the summer of 2012, NY Times - Local East Village, Digital Journal, Huffington Post, Travel and Leisure, BoingBoing, My Modern Met, Gothamist, Curbed, Eater, Time Out NY, Racked, Yahoo News, Manhattan User Guide, BlackBook Magazine, Kate Spade NY, Newsweek Online, Village Voice Online, Buzzfeed, NabeWise, Neighborhoodr, NearSay, The Lo-Down NY, Bowery Boogie, EV Grieve, The Frisky, and Schmap Guide Sixteenth Edition.



Q - the collection

It's a very beautiful photograph indeed. When I zoom into it there is a lot of noise etc. I saw that in some of your other selected works, Gunter.

A critique would be inappropriate here, because the photographer hasn't requested one, but just out of interest - why did you choose this particular photo?

Fantastic work

Beautiful!