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How Do I Know If A Person Is Genuine When Emailing Me To Purchase An Original?

Posted by: Ushonah Hutchings on 02/01/2013 - 9:41 AM

I was emailed yesterday by a woman saying she was interested in an original of mine and asked how I ship it and is it ready to hang. I replied and then she asked how much will it cost to post to Miami but Miami does not show up in the recently viewed section of that painting in my portfolio. Does that mean it's a scam ?

 

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Posted by: Mike Savad on 02/01/2013 - 9:46 AM

you can't judge a person based on the stats here. usually the scam goes - i want your painting (no specific image), i will pay you twice what you ask for it. i'll set up a truck. it's hard to know if it's a scam or not though as anything can be. you would have to figure out what the freight would be from you to her, only you know if it's hangable or not, and you'll have to ask for a check that can clear in your bank first before sending it. i wouldn't do it through paypal, even if it's more convenient.


---Mike Savad

 

Posted by: Wendy J St Christopher on 02/01/2013 - 9:50 AM

Hi, Ushonah,

Have a look at the 'Scams' thread for info and examples of typical scam offers -- maybe that will give you a better idea of what you're dealing with:

http://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=132424

Good luck; I hope it works out for you!

 

Posted by: Janine Riley on 02/01/2013 - 9:52 AM

All views don't automatically show.
Read the thread on scams - & then you will pick up on the terms that tend to be "hoakey" & find the usual offenders..
Tread carefully - but look for wording that would contain the human factor. Asking if it is ready to hang sounds like a normal question to me.
Good Luck !

 

Posted by: Ushonah Hutchings on 02/01/2013 - 9:54 AM

Thanks Mike - Why wouldn't you do it through Pay pal? I thought it was secure.
Thanks Wendy - I had checked that page out but there were no examples like mine , so I decided to ask the question in a new topic.

 

Posted by: Ushonah Hutchings on 02/01/2013 - 9:56 AM

Thanks Janine - ok, looking for human factor sounds like good advice : )

 

Posted by: Ushonah Hutchings on 02/01/2013 - 10:00 AM

It's 11pm here in Oz and I'm gonna go to sleep and check out more replies when I get home from work tomorrow. Thanking you all in advance for your help : )

 

Posted by: Mike Savad on 02/01/2013 - 10:05 AM

the problem with pay pal is, if they think it's a scam, a large amount of money, out of some pattern, the person is a known scammer, if the other person says your a scammer, etc, they will lock your account and all of it's money. they are perhaps the worst place to put money into. they don't follow any laws or rules, and currently they are in a massive class action suit.


---Mike Savad

 

Posted by: Ushonah Hutchings on 02/02/2013 - 12:37 AM

Ahhhh, ok hadn't heard that before. Sounds a bit like the banks ha ha ha

 

Posted by: Paul W Faust - Impressions of Light on 02/02/2013 - 12:59 AM

Doesn't matter if they are for real or not. You won't have to worry about it as long as you do one thing.
DO NOT ship anything for at least 10 days after you have deposited their payment.
If it is bad it should come back before than and then you just don't deliver the product.
10 to 14 days is better yet. Tell them that their payment must clear before you can ship item.
If they don't go for that then you can pretty much tell that they are ripping you off.
You can also get payment with PayPal which confirms their members and guarantees payments.
I've never had a problem with PayPal

 

Posted by: Ushonah Hutchings on 02/02/2013 - 1:39 AM

Thanks Paul, Good advice. I'm in Australia and so waiting for a cheque to arrive here and then clear would prob take 8-10 weeks, so Pay pal is my only option for overseas buyers at this point any way.

 

Posted by: Gregory Scott on 02/02/2013 - 1:55 AM

I don't know Paul. I've heard that a bank, which has already credited an account on a forged check, coming back and taking the money back out of your account. In once case I heard of, the bank actually prosecuted the depositor, even though he was concerned prior to the deposit, and asked if the check was valid. My rule would be to avoid ANY transaction where the buyer wishes to provide his own shipper, and to require significant proof of identity to anybody who wishes to buy outside of "normal" channels. Unfortunately, that is any purchase of original art on FAA.

You should definitely read this link if you think waiting for a check to clear is a "safe" strategy:
Bank of America Bad!

I would definitely go the route of requiring a check to clear, and beyond that, I would discuss your concerns with the bank to verify that it will not come back on you after the check clears. Have you considered a credit card transaction?

Most schemes of this sort involve sending you excess payment, and having you pay back the excess, in some manner.
Any request which involves you paying anything for anything should be treated as extremely suspicious.

 

Posted by: Ushonah Hutchings on 02/02/2013 - 3:58 AM

Okey dokey, Thanks everyone : )

 

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